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2007-05-02, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Specific Metamagic Reductions?
Is there any way to reduce the spell adjustment for a specific metamagic feat, permanently or otherwise? I know there's the PHBII feat that reduces it for a single spell, and the CMage feat that reduces metafeats applied to a chosen school, but is there a feat out there that, say, could make Maximize Spell add +2 lvls instead of +3? Or something similar?
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2007-05-02, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
If you're happy with magazine sources there's Easy Metamagic.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
Metamagic rods allow you to apply a particular metamagic feat without using a higher-level spell slot, even if you don't know the feat in question. They're only usable three times per day.
The epic feat Improved Metamagic reduces the spell slot increaes for all your metamagic feats, to a minimum of +1.
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2007-05-02, 04:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
Another way to reduce metamagic adjustments is to take the Faerūn PrC Incantatrix through all ten levels. Like most of Forgotten Realms, it's very powerful, so talk to your DM.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
I know of an Improved Metamagic feat that brings down all metamagic adjustments down by one (to a minimum of +1) but that's epic.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
While this thread is up, I have a question.
If you used say, Lord of the Uttercold, and/or Born of the Three Thunders, and you had Arcane Thesis, could you then apply another metamagic(like Maximise, which is +3, IIRC) at 2(3, if you used both) levels less than it would be?President of the Society for Hobgoblin Equality in Level Adjustment(SHELA)
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
On the realms of the epic feats, there is a few feats that give automatic metamagic for a certain level of spells. If I remember right, you would need take three feats for each metamagic feats so it goes for all 9 spells levels.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
I think the feat you're looking for is Practical Metamagic, from Races of the Dragon. It may have some obnoxious prerequisite about being dragonblooded, though.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
Practical Metamagic is probably what I'm looking for...I have a friend who owns it, I'll go ask him.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
Yeah, you've got to be dragonblooded and able to spontaneously cast level 3 spells... which makes the feat almost completely worthless.
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
There's also the wu jen class, allowing you to premanently still/silent/extend/enlarge on of your wu jen spells when you cast it, without cost.
@^ if you're a spellscale sorcerer it's quite a good feat to pick up. And despite sorcerers being less powerful than wizards they are still very powerful.Last edited by InaVegt; 2007-05-03 at 06:19 AM.
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2007-05-03, 06:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Specific Metamagic Reductions?
Easy Metamagic (as previously mentioned) reduces a single metamagic feat's level adjustment by 1 (but with a minimum of +1 level adjustment). You can take it multiple times, but have to apply it to a different metamagic feat each time.
It's in DR 325, and in the CrystalKeep feat index.Veryn's Sliver, by Talfrey:Spoiler
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2007-05-03, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Bah. Practical Metamagic has a minimum of +1 as well. Looks like I'm SOL on the abuse then. ;(
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