Raziere's Rollicking Red Raging Rant (Random Banter Thread #213)

[factotum]

The licence will also authorise me to drive mopeds and tractors, and basically any car or car + trailer combination up to 3500 kilos. You can also only drive vehicles that take up to 9 people, so basically yourself + 8. For more, you need a bus licence.

That part is fairly standard--my driving licence entitles me to drive those sort of vehicles, even though I learned to drive and passed my test in a normal car. It does sound like the requirements when you're learning are far stricter over there than here, though, good luck!

[FinnLassie]

Wow that's pretty ridiculous, and I thought it was hard to get a license in Quebec... What we do have is pretty crazy zero tolerance for alcohol laws (and that's pretty recent). When I did it you had a temporary permit for the first 2 years after you pass the practical exam and that one has less infraction points and zero tolerance for alcohol, then you got the "real" one that's at .08 ABV. Typically people got the real one at 19 or 20, and that seemed pretty reasonable to me. Now it's zero tolerance until you're 22. Hilariously, my brother was 20 when that law passed and had had his real permit for a few months, so he went from .08 back to zero tolerance.

But mostly it's the expense that's shocking most people pay less than that for their first car, you must not get many young/poor people on the road in Finland right?

Not sure about the promille levels required for DUI cases when you have a temporary permit, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as it is in Canadonia until you get your full licence.

For many people it's kinda expected that parents save money for it - or that you save at least part of it yourself with your summer job money etc - and it's a rather common 18th birthday present, but I'm not sure on how it is today in general as it used to cost less like about 5 years ago when I was 18. I'm from a middle class family I suppose but would have not received that kind of a kid as we lived in the Helsinki metropolitan area and you hoonestly don't need a car there, but my grandparents would've and are in fact now paying for it. It's a long term investment, especially if you abide by the law.

Generally I find that people from lower income backrounds, who tend to live in the countryside, are more likely to have a driver's licence... but it's kind of required in the middle of nowhere to have one. I think the high price comes simply from the fact that driving education's main goal is to prevent accident and casualties instead of just giving kids a licence... honestly, the latter is an image that I get when I hear how little professional and supervised teaching they get. I would not trust my parents or anyone from my family sitting beside me telling if I've done wrong or right. That's my opinion on it, and if anyone would argue, go ahead - however I'm not going to respond.

That part is fairly standard--my driving licence entitles me to drive those sort of vehicles, even though I learned to drive and passed my test in a normal car. It does sound like the requirements when you're learning are far stricter over there than here, though, good luck!

Yeah. If people who already have a tractor and/or moped licence want to update to a proper driver's licence, it costs about 1000-1500 euros less.

[Teddy]

Not sure about the promille levels required for DUI cases when you have a temporary permit, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as it is in Canadonia until you get your full licence.

Based on what Google Translate managed to get off Finnish Wikipedia (quite a lot, actually. It worked surprisingly well), Finland has a DUI level of 0.05% and an aggravated DUI level of 0.12%, with no mention of any special cases. For comparison's sake, the levels here in Sweden are 0.02% for DUI and 0.1% for aggravated DUI.

Generally I find that people from lower income backrounds, who tend to live in the countryside, are more likely to have a driver's licence... but it's kind of required in the middle of nowhere to have one. I think the high price comes simply from the fact that driving education's main goal is to prevent accident and casualties instead of just giving kids a licence... honestly, the latter is an image that I get when I hear how little professional and supervised teaching they get. I would not trust my parents or anyone from my family sitting beside me telling if I've done wrong or right. That's my opinion on it, and if anyone would argue, go ahead - however I'm not going to respond.

Well, the idea isn't that they should be your private teacher as much as a sanity check and a safety measure while you do bulk training on your own (since doing that with a driving school is both expensive and a waste of their competence), but to each their own.

[Devmaar]

My parents offered to pay for my driving lessons but my mother was adamant that she couldn't help me practice because she would panic and probably ruin me as a driver.

In fact, now I think about it I'm pretty sure I never got a 17th birthday present because I never took the driving lessons...

[enderlord99]

My parents offered to pay for my driving lessons but my mother was adamant that she couldn't help me practice because she would panic and probably ruin me as a driver.

In fact, now I think about it I'm pretty sure I never got a 17th birthday present because I never took the driving lessons...

Did you get my PM about sulfur?

[Devmaar]

Did you get my PM about sulfur?

I have now responded, sorry about that

[Teddy]

Did you get my PM about sulfur?

A tip: There's a 'Request a read receipt for this message' checkbox under the message field when writing a PM. That way you can see directly when a message has been read and won't have to post publicly asking about it.

[Devmaar]

Anyone messaging me should probably still follow up though, especially if they actually need a response

[factotum]

Based on what Google Translate managed to get off Finnish Wikipedia (quite a lot, actually. It worked surprisingly well), Finland has a DUI level of 0.05% and an aggravated DUI level of 0.12%, with no mention of any special cases.

Or you could just get the same information from the English Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_...country#Europe

[Teddy]

Or you could just get the same information from the English Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_...country#Europe

Yeah, but that one didn't attempt to mention special cases, hence why I went to the native one.

[LaZodiac]

Help Undertale is too good I forgot to sleep.

The only way you can help is by not searching it on google and instead going on Steam and buying it yourself and experiencing it yourself.

[Solse]

Just recently I decided that I'd love to be able to learn to draw, but I don't know where to start. I want to be able to draw original characters and scenery from varied angles but I just can't seem to find any tutorials on this sort of thing. Could anybody help me out here?

[Cuthalion]

Just draw everything. Draw chairs and stuff, draw people, draw from pictures and life. Draw what you're interested and what you're not. Figure out what things really look like - rather than go straight to stylized art, figure out realistically how to do it and simplify-it'll look ten times better.

My art thread when I started drawing every day.

What I'm doing now.

I just set myself a challenge to do something every day and post it somewhere where people would hold me accountable if I didn't keep up.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Just recently I decided that I'd love to be able to learn to draw, but I don't know where to start. I want to be able to draw original characters and scenery from varied angles but I just can't seem to find any tutorials on this sort of thing. Could anybody help me out here?

I'm a professional art teacher. So I could potentially help.

[Devmaar]

Found out today I'm getting a £650 council tax refund. So that's nice.

[enderlord99]

I'm a professional art teacher. So I could potentially help.

Whoa! Isn't that For-Profit Advertising?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Whoa! Isn't that For-Profit Advertising?

I'm not saying I'm going to charge him or anything of the sort, so no, I'm just saying I could probably help if interested.

[enderlord99]

I beat the final boss of Hand of Fate last night. Admittedly, I was playing on Apprentice... but still!

[FinnLassie]

What I'm doing now.

Banana, chicken. Chicken, banana. Banana chicken. Chicken banana?

You know what my next avatar will be, and yes you are hired for the job.

Found out today I'm getting a £650 council tax refund. So that's nice.

I am expecting you to buy pretty much just cheese cake with that money.
though... that's like a month's rent and more...

[Cuthalion]

Banana, chicken. Chicken, banana. Banana chicken. Chicken banana?

You know what my next avatar will be, and yes you are hired for the job.

Hehe. PM with exact details if that's what you want.

[enderlord99]

Remember: knowing someone's a pervert, and being able (though reluctant) to explain that fact, doesn't make you also a pervert.

This includes being able to figure out why someone laughs every time they hear the word "cake."

[FinnLassie]

Hehe. PM with exact details if that's what you want.

I don't know what to PM, since that's the whole thing I'm asking for.

[Devmaar]

I am expecting you to buy pretty much just cheese cake with that money.
though... that's like a month's rent and more...

That's actually exactly a month's rent. Kingston is not a cheap place to live.

Where would I even go to buy that much cheesecake?

[Cuthalion]

I don't know what to PM, since that's the whole thing I'm asking for.

Chicken banana? Banana chicken? Just general bananachickenness?

[FinnLassie]

Chicken banana? Banana chicken? Just general bananachickenness?

I have given you a palette - now paint with it!

[Teddy]

I have given you a palette - now paint with it!

For some reason, my mind replaced "palette" with "omelette". It does actually make some warped form of sense...

[FinnLassie]

For some reason, my mind replaced "palette" with "omelette". It does actually make some warped form of sense...

If it's any comfort, painting with eggs is really interesting. Not the easiest texture to work with, but fun.

[Cuthalion]

Heh, I imagine painting with an omelette might be a little challenging.

[FinnLassie]

Heh, I imagine painting with an omelette might be a little challenging.

Step 1. Acquire an omelette
Step 2. Put omelette in a blender
Step 3. ???
Step 4. PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT

[Cuthalion]

Step 1. Acquire an omelette
Step 2. Put omelette in a blender
Step 3. ???
Step 4. PAINT PAINT PAINT PAINT

Ah, I was thinking using it as a brush.