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    Quote Originally Posted by stsasser View Post
    ls Schmoopy gaining levels as he survives encounters with Ardon's Army?
    He did help defeat Krackaboom that one time. He probably got exp for that.

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    Do NPCs get XP in 4th edition?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Do NPCs get XP in 4th edition?
    I have no idea about the rules of 4e, but reasonably it has to come from somewhere.

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    I thought that line about seeing where they teleported to was absolutely hilarious. Then I read the next panel. 4th edition is so lame. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    I thought that line about seeing where they teleported to was absolutely hilarious. Then I read the next panel. 4th edition is so lame. :|
    I don't know about you but when I teleport I know I want to go 10 feet...wait that isn't it, I want to go more than 10 feet.

    Yeah, that seems a bit lame making teleport so difficult to use. Though at least we can imagine a wizard climbing a tree to get line of sight further away.
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    And now we know why wizards always live in really tall towers. But seriously, teleport is a long-distance travel spell. Making it line-of-sight is ridiculous. It's like giving magic missile a miss chance or something, completely ruins the purpose of the thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
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    And now we know why wizards always live in really tall towers. But seriously, teleport is a long-distance travel spell. Making it line-of-sight is ridiculous. It's like giving magic missile a miss chance or something, completely ruins the purpose of the thing.

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    Well, the spell isn't called Magic Hit-tle now, is it?
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    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    4e teleport mechanics are, I believe, largely a reaction against the "teleport to the next country in one action" ability of 3.5e. 4e teleport abilities that take only a single action to use are all (as far as I know) short range so that they have tactical uses in combat but cannot easily be used in most cases to outright end combat by instantly escaping beyond any reasonable pursuit. There are ways to teleport extremely long distances, but they are specifically designed to not be practical in combat, such as by requiring a 10 minute ritual.

    There have been some hints that something happened recently that allows breaking the rules in some way, and that Ardon is responsible. It's what made Dire's dumbie plague (and the resulting permanently-increase-intelligence potion) possible. I'm guessing his teleport in this scene is another result of that.

    Wild guess, the rules-breaking effect is enabling access in some strange way to 3.5e rules and mechanics. Dire might have learned to cast 3.5e Teleport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    4e teleport mechanics are, I believe, largely a reaction against the "teleport to the next country in one action" ability of 3.5e. 4e teleport abilities that take only a single action to use are all (as far as I know) short range so that they have tactical uses in combat but cannot easily be used in most cases to outright end combat by instantly escaping beyond any reasonable pursuit. There are ways to teleport extremely long distances, but they are specifically designed to not be practical in combat, such as by requiring a 10 minute ritual.

    There have been some hints that something happened recently that allows breaking the rules in some way, and that Ardon is responsible. It's what made Dire's dumbie plague (and the resulting permanently-increase-intelligence potion) possible. I'm guessing his teleport in this scene is another result of that.

    Wild guess, the rules-breaking effect is enabling access in some strange way to 3.5e rules and mechanics. Dire might have learned to cast 3.5e Teleport.
    Considering the authors 5e projects, it is more likely that 5e would be the inspiration, if you'd use inspiration from any other D&D game at all.

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    Schmoopy may well be the only sane person in the entirety of South Crossing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImperatorV View Post
    Schmoopy may well be the only sane person in the entirety of South Crossing.
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    'I almost done my sandwich?'

    Is this a Canadianism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stsasser View Post
    'I almost done my sandwich?'

    Is this a Canadianism?
    Is that what it said originally? It now says I'm instead of I.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamste View Post
    Is that what it said originally? It now says I'm instead of I.
    Nope, that is a mistake on my part.

    'I'm almost done my sandwich'.
    Shouldn't that be 'I'm almost done with my sandwich' or I'm almost done eating my sandwich' ?

    What do I know? It could be South Crossing-ese.
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    It could be a Canadian thing... where I'm from we have a lot of Canadian phrases and words worked into our normal vocabulary (like tuque,) and I've always heard "I'm almost done my <insert food here>."
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    as a canadian, all i can say is "i'm almost done my sandwich" sounds fine to me, i don't see anything wrong with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JumboWheat01 View Post
    It could be a Canadian thing... where I'm from we have a lot of Canadian phrases and words worked into our normal vocabulary (like tuque,) and I've always heard "I'm almost done my <insert food here>."
    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    as a canadian, all i can say is "i'm almost done my sandwich" sounds fine to me, i don't see anything wrong with it.
    Thanks for the enlightenment. I speak an awkward dialect English and sometimes have issues with plainer speech.
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    For me, it sounds awkward and ungrammatical because it's missing the word "with" before "my sandwich".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
    For me, it sounds awkward and ungrammatical because it's missing the word "with" before "my sandwich".
    Well what else would you do with a sandwich?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    Well what else would you do with a sandwich?
    Do you REALLY want to know the answer to that question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    Well what else would you do with a sandwich?
    Being able to figure out what a sentence means based on context isn't the same as it having proper structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    Well what else would you do with a sandwich?
    The point is that I'd be doing it "with the sandwich". I wouldn't be doing it "the sandwich".
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    so i take it you wouldn't be the type to say "i'm almost done my video game" then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    so i take it you wouldn't be the type to say "i'm almost done my video game" then?
    Of course I wouldn't. Would you?

    I might use fractured english sometimes on accident, but I wouldn't do it on purpose.

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    yeah actualy. if i'm playing a video game and i'm nearing the end of it (and someone asks me to help them with something that can wait) i'll say i'm almost done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draconi Redfir View Post
    yeah actualy. if i'm playing a video game and i'm nearing the end of it (and someone asks me to help them with something that can wait) i'll say i'm almost done.
    "I'm almost done" is proper English though. "I'm almost done my game" is not because it's missing a word.

    I guess none of this matters. I was just agreeing with Douglas and stsasser that it sounds strange to me as well.

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    "I'm almost done" is a complete sentence on its own. Jamming a noun phrase onto the end of it is not proper grammar. To be properly grammatical, the noun phrase needs to be a prepositional phrase instead.

    "I'm almost done my video game" is incorrect grammar.
    "I'm almost done with my video game" is correct grammar.
    "I have done my video game" is also correct grammar, because "done" is being used as a verb rather than an adjective, making "my video game" the object in the subject-verb-object structure of the verb phrase and thus an integral part of the sentence.
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    To be honest I didn't even notice it DIDN'T say "with" and in my head read it as "I'm almost done with my sandwich."

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    From now on dramatic multi-page updates will be based around colloquial grammar use rather than villain reveals and character deaths. I now know what REALLY puts the readers on the edge of their seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStarNorth View Post
    From now on dramatic multi-page updates will be based around colloquial grammar use rather than villain reveals and character deaths. I now know what REALLY puts the readers on the edge of their seats.
    It's about time really.

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