Will Save World for Gold

[Celestia]

Sometimes, the players need to realize the world is full of bigger fish, and the cosmos of the setting does not revolve around them.

Yeah, that's fine and all, but doing so doesn't necessitate the DM sit there conducting an elaborate story between the NPCs while the players do nothing but watch. That's like hosting an orgy and then just sitting in the corner touching yourself while everyone else grows increasingly bored.

[Anteros]

Yeah, that's fine and all, but doing so doesn't necessitate the DM sit there conducting an elaborate story between the NPCs while the players do nothing but watch. That's like hosting an orgy and then just sitting in the corner touching yourself while everyone else grows increasingly bored.

This isn't a game though...

Besides, if it was this whole exchange could be summed up in less than a minute.

[Draconi Redfir]

Yeah, that's fine and all, but doing so doesn't necessitate the DM sit there conducting an elaborate story between the NPCs while the players do nothing but watch. That's like hosting an orgy and then just sitting in the corner touching yourself while everyone else grows increasingly bored.

This isn't a game though...

Besides, if it was this whole exchange could be summed up in less than a minute.

think lonestar actually came in here once and said it was cannon that this is not a game, just a world in wich game rules apply, simmilar to Goblins, or order of the stick.

if it WAS a game though, the situation with the sons and dire could easily be explained in a way that doesn't make everyone bored. maybe the sons are an old group the DM plays with every other weekend, and they came in to help out this newer group Ell and Odie are part of. or maybe Odie and Ardon's players are being allowed to play as the members of the sons while their own characters are not involved in the game.

really there are tons of ways you could interpret it other then "the dm talking to himself"

[Emperor Time]

I wonder which decease characters will return eventually?

[Celestia]

This isn't a game though...

And Catholic bears are wet. What's your point? That's not in any way relevant to my post.

[Anteros]

And Catholic bears are wet. What's your point? That's not in any way relevant to my post.

You're posting a comment about a story in a thread about a story where we're all talking about the story. So either you are actually talking about the story at hand...or you're the one that's off topic.

[Jane_Smith]

Or just being argumentative for argument sake. In which case. -spray bottles. Bad Celestia, bad!

In any case, anyone want to take bets hes just going to spam devour magic again until she loses her wings and they both plummet to death in front of the group?

[Emperor Time]

Or just being argumentative for argument sake. In which case. -spray bottles. Bad Celestia, bad!

In any case, anyone want to take bets hes just going to spam devour magic again until she loses her wings and they both plummet to death in front of the group?

I don't want that unless Ardon breaks their fall.

[Douglas]

I doubt spamming Devour Magic is possible - that would require that it's an at will power, and it seems way too strong for that to me.

If he's using PC rules (which describing himself as a "Storm Pact Warlock" suggests, though his apparent hp seems too high for that) I'd guess it's at least an encounter power, and possibly even a daily. He's used it twice, but I would further guess that activating Storm Aspect (almost certainly a daily) refreshed it.

If he's using monster rules, it's probably a recharge power, in which case they're at the mercy of the dice.

[Kantaki]

I don't want that unless Ardon breaks their fall.

Ardon the Flumph?

[Emperor Time]

Ardon the Flumph?

That's right.

[stsasser]

KRACKABOOM just cannot catch a break...

[Anteros]

I guess this is a big moment for Oswalt since he's normally a pacifist. Of course, I didn't know he was a pacifist until the previous comic, so it looses a bit of its oomph.

[JumboWheat01]

And this is why you never underestimate the cleric. Sure, you may look at them like they're walking bandages, but they are perfectly capable of smiting your sorry backside with divine magic.

[Douglas]

If he's using monster rules, it's probably a recharge power, in which case they're at the mercy of the dice.

Looks like this possibility just got confirmed. Explains his high hp, too, he's probably a Solo monster.

And apparently Oswalt had an extra flight elixir. Maybe Glend gave him the one he wouldn't be needing?

[Anteros]

Looks like this possibility just got confirmed. Explains his high hp, too, he's probably a Solo monster.

And apparently Oswalt had an extra flight elixir. Maybe Glend gave him the one he wouldn't be needing?

Given how much his power has fluctuated between this encounter and the last time they fought him, I'm still not convinced he has stats at all. If he does, your explanation seems likely though.

[Drakilian]

I love where this is going

I'm kinda hype for Supreme Overlord Ardon

[Emperor Time]

I love where this is going

I'm kinda hype for Supreme Overlord Ardon

He is a great Villain Protagonist but my favorite Villain Protagonist is still Light Yagami.

[Douglas]

Incidentally, this fight precisely pinpoints Oswalt's level, if we didn't have proof of it before. The ability that caused ongoing damage was Radiant Action, which deals ongoing damage equal to the caster's level. It dealt 12 ongoing damage per round, so Oswalt is level 12.

[Celestia]

He is a great Villain Protagonist but my favorite Villain Protagonist is still Light Yagami.

Right now, Ardon is an anti-hero, not a villain. That may, of course, change in the future, though I'd put my money on it staying this way.

Totally agree about Light, however. He's great.

[Hamste]

Incidentally, this fight precisely pinpoints Oswalt's level, if we didn't have proof of it before. The ability that caused ongoing damage was Radiant Action, which deals ongoing damage equal to the caster's level. It dealt 12 ongoing damage per round, so Oswalt is level 12.

Huh, must have leveled up since the author made the vote thing. The thing you get when you vote for the comic (along with some background information) says he is level 11(as are the paladins but Glend was only level 9).

[stsasser]

If you're gonna talk, talk. If you're gonna shoot, shoot.

Good job,El.

[Anteros]

Well, El and the Sons have both become much more watchable over this arc. I'm still worried they aren't enough to carry the comic while Ardon is in full unlikable mode...but it's a step in the right direction for those characters.

I wonder if we're now headed towards ressurecting Odie, or if that will be put off for a while. We could desperately use some exposition and growth from 45. He still has less personality than pre-brain juice Peanut.

[Lizard Lord]

Well, El and the Sons have both become much more watchable over this arc. I'm still worried they aren't enough to carry the comic while Ardon is in full unlikable mode...but it's a step in the right direction for those characters.

I wonder if we're now headed towards ressurecting Odie, or if that will be put off for a while. We could desperately use some exposition and growth from 45. He still has less personality than pre-brain juice Peanut.

Odie was ashes even before Glend crashed the castle. If Glend can't come back then I doubt Odie can.

[Anteros]

Odie was ashes even before Glend crashed the castle. If Glend can't come back then I doubt Odie can.

He's arguably one of the two main protagonists of the comic, and has unresolved plot lines. I have a hard time believing he won't be back. We have a whole subplot about how the conventional rules no longer apply. He was also saved by literal Deus ex Machina once before. I'm confident he'll be back one way or another.

Of course, I've been wrong before. Sometimes quite frequently.

[Lizard Lord]

"He's arguably one of the two main protagonists of the comic, and has unresolved plot lines." Something similar could be said about Ned Stark.

[Anteros]

Ned Stark's plotlines transitioned naturally to his children upon his death. They weren't cut short by it. Otherwise it would have been awful writing. The same can't be said for Odie. Ardon and El have no particular drive or obligation to explore those plot threads if Odie is gone. They just become pointless.

[Emperor Time]

But Bran and the others took care of Ned's remaining plotlines.

[Ibrinar]

When reading the book at least I considered Ned a supporting character from the start.

[dude123nice]

Right now, Ardon is an anti-hero, not a villain. That may, of course, change in the future, though I'd put my money on it staying this way.

Totally agree about Light, however. He's great.

LOL, no! Ardon is pretty much a villain at this point. Or did you miss the totally unnecessary murder he just committed?