Rate this Magic Ring!

[Baptor]

Ring of the Mystic Titan
(requires attunement by a bard, wizard, warlock, cleric, sorcerer or druid)

When you first become attuned to this ring, select a single spell of each level 1st-5th from any class. You can cast each of those spells once per day. Your spellcasting modifier for these spells is always the spellcasting modifier for your class (if you are multiclass, use your highest).

What rarity do you think this is?

[McNinja]

It would vary based on the power of the spell level. spell level 1 or 2 would be uncommon, 3-5 rare, 7-8 very rare, 9 legendary.

[Baptor]

It would vary based on the power of the spell level. spell level 1 or 2 would be uncommon, 3-5 rare, 7-8 very rare, 9 legendary.

So you're saying if all the spells in the ring were cast at the 5th level of power, the ring would be rare?

[Kane0]

Very rare or legendary. You get your choice of 5 spells you can use once per day each, thats pretty huge.

Think Healing word, mirror image, dispel magic, dimension door and scrying once per day each. This is a slightly limited but broader bard secrets x5.

[Bubzors]

I would say very rare or legendary. You are basically giving casters 5 more spell slots each day with spells they usually would not have access to. That's pretty damn powerful

[Baptor]

I would say very rare or legendary. You are basically giving casters 5 more spell slots each day with spells they usually would not have access to. That's pretty damn powerful

I agree. I was thinking very rare or legendary too. I am leaning towards very rare because while this is really strong the Staff of the Magi seems way stronger. Staff of Power seems about equal when you include the Staff's passive bonuses in.

[Strill]

I don't agree with legendary. This ring is beyond legendary. I'd rate this as an Artifact. Consider all the things it gives you:

• A Familiar for EVERY MEMBER of your party via Find Familiar.
• An intelligent mount for EVERY MEMBER of your party via Find Steed.
• An effective +5 to spells known
• An extra spell slot for spell levels 1-5
• Unrestricted spell choice (i.e. Prayer of Healing, Revivify, and Raise Dead on a Wizard)
• The ability to waive all gold costs from spells (spells cast through magic items do not require material components)

Hell, the ability to waive gold costs alone is game-breaking. Just toss out a Legend Lore spell every single day on anything you can think of until it's impossible for the DM to have anything to surprise you with. Cast Planar Binding every day for free and have some crazy-powerful demon always at your beck and call.

It's just way too powerful.

[Kane0]

I don't agree with legendary. This ring is beyond legendary. I'd rate this as an Artifact. Consider all the things it gives you:

• A Familiar for EVERY MEMBER of your party via Find Familiar.
• An intelligent mount for EVERY MEMBER of your party via Find Steed.
• An effective +5 to spells known
• An extra spell slot for spell levels 1-5
• Unrestricted spell choice (i.e. Prayer of Healing, Revivify, and Raise Dead on a Wizard)
• The ability to waive all gold costs from spells (spells cast through magic items do not require material components)

Hell, the ability to waive gold costs alone is game-breaking. Just toss out a Legend Lore spell every single day on anything you can think of until it's impossible for the DM to have anything to surprise you with. Cast Planar Binding every day for free and have some crazy-powerful demon always at your beck and call.

It's just way too powerful.

I believe the regular restrictions for casting would still apply.

My vote for very rare, possibly legendary if the user chooses the most optimal spells possible.

[Strill]

I believe the regular restrictions for casting would still apply.

DMG page 141 says otherwise.

[Kane0]

DMG page 141 says otherwise.

Indeed, no component costs when used this way.

The Find Familiar and Mount use seems a little more dubious though. It would be easy to say that when you cease to be attuned to the item any ongoing spells/effects it generated cease also.

[Baptor]

DMG page 141 says otherwise.

The way I am writing the ring, it gives you the ability to cast these spells. The ring doesn't cast the spells. Hence, you must pay any applicable components and the spells would work just as if you were casting them from personal spell slots.

I'm not creating this in a vacuum here. The purpose of the ring is to give the party's caster some extra flexibility. OK a lot of extra flexibility. But the point isn't to allow the character to break all the RAI and give everyone familiars or have infinite raise dead spells without cost.

This in mind, we all still on the very rare - legendary fence?

[Mara]

Ring of the Mystic Titan
(requires attunement by a bard, wizard, warlock, cleric, sorcerer or druid)

When you first become attuned to this ring, select a single spell of each level 1st-5th from any class. You can cast each of those spells once per day. Your spellcasting modifier for these spells is always the spellcasting modifier for your class (if you are multiclass, use your highest).

What rarity do you think this is?

Legendary.

5 cherry picked spells from any list.

[Kane0]

The way I am writing the ring, it gives you the ability to cast these spells. The ring doesn't cast the spells. Hence, you must pay any applicable components and the spells would work just as if you were casting them from personal spell slots.

I'm not creating this in a vacuum here. The purpose of the ring is to give the party's caster some extra flexibility. OK a lot of extra flexibility. But the point isn't to allow the character to break all the RAI and give everyone familiars or have infinite raise dead spells without cost.

This in mind, we all still on the very rare - legendary fence?

But they don't actually use your spell slots, each spell is once per day correct?

Very rare, comparable to staff of power and rod of absorption.

[Baptor]

But they don't actually use your spell slots, each spell is once per day correct?

Very rare, comparable to staff of power and rod of absorption.

Correct. They are each 1/day only. I agree with you.

[Cakesnizzles]

That's definitely legendary.

[Edgerunner]

A Ring of Spell Storing gives you 5 lvls of spells that can be cast and it is a Rare Item. IE: 1lvl1 and 2lvl2 spells and these are spells you have to Know.

Getting a ring that store 5 spells of 1-5 lvl that you can cherry pick from Any list is heckofa lot more powerful. Legendary if not an artifact.

[Yagyujubei]

dont even have to think for a second. legendary. that is significantly stronger than ring of spell storing

[krugaan]

Ring of Instant Dungeon Competency
You may cast the following spells once per long rest:

Feather Fall
Fly
Freedom of Movement
Dimension Door
Truesight

[McNinja]

So you're saying if all the spells in the ring were cast at the 5th level of power, the ring would be rare?

I missed the part where there was more than one spell being cast by the ring. Since you're casting multiple spells from it, I would say very rare, and if they're ALL being cast at 5th level, legendary.

[Malifice]

Ring of the Mystic Titan
(requires attunement by a bard, wizard, warlock, cleric, sorcerer or druid)

When you first become attuned to this ring, select a single spell of each level 1st-5th from any class. You can cast each of those spells once per day. Your spellcasting modifier for these spells is always the spellcasting modifier for your class (if you are multiclass, use your highest).

What rarity do you think this is?

I lean towards legendary. I woul also change the text to:

When you first become attuned to this ring, select a single spell of each level 1st-5th from any one class. You can cast each of those spells once per day at their normal level, as long as you are normally capable of casting a spell of that level. Your spellcasting modifier for these spells is always the spellcasting modifier for your class (if you are multiclass, use your highest).

[Kane0]

I lean towards legendary. I woul also change the text to:

When you first become attuned to this ring, select a single spell of each level 1st-5th from any one class. You can cast each of those spells once per day at their normal level, as long as you are normally capable of casting a spell of that level. Your spellcasting modifier for these spells is always the spellcasting modifier for your class (if you are multiclass, use your highest).

An excellent suggestion.

[Baptor]

dont even have to think for a second. legendary. that is significantly stronger than ring of spell storing

True, but with the ring of spell storing, anyone can use it. Only full spellcasters can use this one. I'm not saying its not legendary, but there is a significant difference there.

[N810]

Perhaps limit it to one of the 5 spells per day ?
Perhaps that would drop it to rare...?

[Baptor]

Perhaps limit it to one of the 5 spells per day ?
Perhaps that would drop it to rare...?

Sure, I could see that as rare. I'm not concerned about making it conform to a certain rarity, but just trying to figure out what rarity it is as written.

The DMG says when making new items to use other items already in the DMG as a basis of comparison. For me, it all comes down to this.

If I were playing a wizard and you offered me this ring or a staff of the magi, I am picking the staff hands down. That thing is a beast.

If I were playing a wizard and you offered me this ring or a staff of power, I would have to think about it.

So for me I think it should be very rare as written.

[Strill]

But the point isn't to allow the character to break all the RAI and give everyone familiars or have infinite raise dead spells without cost.

So how are you going to prevent the ring from giving everyone familiars and mounts?

[N810]

I suppose you could have a few spells banned from the item.

[KorvinStarmast]

Ring of the Mystic Titan
(requires attunement by a bard, wizard, warlock, cleric, sorcerer or druid)

When you first become attuned to this ring, select a single spell of each level 1st-5th from any class. You can cast each of those spells once per day. Your spellcasting modifier for these spells is always the spellcasting modifier for your class (if you are multiclass, use your highest).

What rarity do you think this is?

Legendary or Artificat, per Mara's post, and I'll further comment that this is the kind of bloat the game doesn't need ... unless it, like any decent artifact, has some side effects that hurt whomever uses it or significantly inconveniences them.

"With great powers come great side effects."

No free lunch, bounded accuracy, etc.

[Kane0]

Have it be sentient and able to change what spells it thinks you should have, as well as be able to choose to cast them itself. Then you get to have interesting arguments about spell selection while staring at your hand.

[Baptor]

So how are you going to prevent the ring from giving everyone familiars and mounts?

Maybe I'm just really unfamiliar with the find familiar spell. My question is, how could you use this to give everyone familiars? Does the regular spell allow you to just give someone a familiar? I really don't understand the abuse you speak of. Just shouting, "everyone gets familiars omgz" doesn't explain how the item could be abused to bring about that effect.

Legendary or Artificat, per Mara's post, and I'll further comment that this is the kind of bloat the game doesn't need ... unless it, like any decent artifact, has some side effects that hurt whomever uses it or significantly inconveniences them.

"With great powers come great side effects."

No free lunch, bounded accuracy, etc.

The kind of bloat the game doesn't need? How is this item "bloating" the game any worse than the Staff of the Magi? I brought up earlier that I'd pick the Staff of the Magi any day of the week before I'd pick this ring. How is this ring more powerful than 50 charges of level 7 spells plus a rod of absorption plus a wand of the war mage all rolled into one?

[Strill]

Maybe I'm just really unfamiliar with the find familiar spell. My question is, how could you use this to give everyone familiars? Does the regular spell allow you to just give someone a familiar? I really don't understand the abuse you speak of. Just shouting, "everyone gets familiars omgz" doesn't explain how the item could be abused to bring about that effect.

So read the spell then!

Find Familiar is cast once, and gives you a familiar which lasts until it dies, at which point you have to cast the spell again to get it back. Find Steed works the same. You would pass the ring around to each member of the party, they'd all cast the two spells, and all get a familiar and a mount.