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    It is a world ruled by Mad Science! Things happen. Usually, they happen to other people. This is entertainment. That's when the front door gets blown in- And you belatedly realize that, once again, you are doomed to be the entertainment in another exciting installment of: GIRL GENIUS!



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    I'm here! I'm here! But my homework ate my dog. That should be extra credit.

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    New comic featuring a new word: Moligarchy. I'm surprised nobody thought of it sooner.

    Also, do you think this is the race of people that spawned The Underminer?
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    No. But they should've been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    New comic featuring a new word: Moligarchy. I'm surprised nobody thought of it sooner.

    Also, do you think this is the race of people that spawned The Underminer?
    Hmmm, perhaps. Underminer looks too smooth to be related though.
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    I don't have to bookmark. Once I post a reply to this thread, I will get email updates whenever a new message is posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Cross View Post
    I don't have to bookmark. Once I post a reply to this thread, I will get email updates whenever a new message is posted.
    Huh? You mean you don't just obsessively click through the forums to keep track of all your favorite threads whenever you have a spare moment? someone pls find me a life i'm pretty sure i don't have one

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    Well, if arranged royal weddings stop wars then one or two more and there's no war against the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BannedInSchool View Post
    Well, if arranged royal weddings stop wars then one or two more and there's no war against the surface.
    Well, Hoffmann is the son of the mole-king. I'm not sure if the adopted part makes a difference and I'm very sure Collette would object to the idea, but at least they belong to the same species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Cross View Post
    I don't have to bookmark. Once I post a reply to this thread, I will get email updates whenever a new message is posted.
    Strictly speaking, you don't need to post. Top right of the first post: Thread Tools -> Subscribe to this thread.
    But it is fun anyway to post some random stuff anyways. For me GirlGenius has winded in terms of excitement but not in fun-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BannedInSchool View Post
    arranged royal weddings stop wars
    That is pretty much the plan behind the stormking/heterodyne-story,
    and the ploy with Zola and now Seffie...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PePe QuiCoSE View Post
    Strictly speaking, you don't need to post. Top right of the first post: Thread Tools -> Subscribe to this thread.
    But it is fun anyway to post some random stuff anyways. For me GirlGenius has winded in terms of excitement but not in fun-wise.
    Do I automatically subscribe to a thread if I post something?
    Guess what spell I cast before posting this message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hajo View Post
    That is pretty much the plan behind the stormking/heterodyne-story...
    That didn't work out that well, didn't it? Fall of the Storm King and all that. Why do the Knight of Jove want to recreate that scenario again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Well, Hoffmann is the son of the mole-king. I'm not sure if the adopted part makes a difference and I'm very sure Collette would object to the idea, but at least they belong to the same species.
    Waaaaaaaaait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    That didn't work out that well, didn't it? Fall of the Storm King and all that. Why do the Knight of Jove want to recreate that scenario again
    They weren't planning on there being a real heterodyne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    They weren't planning on there being a real heterodyne.
    I'm not sure that makes the idea much better. I mean sure, there is this prophecy, that the Knights of Jove might have made up, but they are still recreating the romance that led to their fall.
    Somehow that doesn't sound very smart to me.
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    "Not very smart" is a pretty good description of most everybody we've seen in GG-verse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    "Not very smart" is a pretty good description of most everybody we've seen in GG-verse.
    Well, yeah, but even then knowingly recreating the events that led to your downfall is its own kind of "not very smart".
    At least Hoffmann can claim ignorance about the situation he messed with if it leads to a war of the new underground alliance against Paris. That is not much better, but well... he didn't know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petersohn View Post
    Do I automatically subscribe to a thread if I post something?
    Depends on your profile settings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    "Not very smart" is a pretty good description of most everybody we've seen in GG-verse.
    On the contrary, it takes real cleverness to be that stupid.

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    Hoffman recommended that they arrange a marriage to end the war and he said they managed to find a solution to the whole different species problem... And it turns out that the king has adopted HIM into the royal family... Is Hoffman's adoption their solution to the inter-species problem and he doesn't realize that HE is the one that will end up being married off to end the war?

    Cause if so, then it sounds like collette might not have to worry about this union lasting too long.
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    That would bring us back to „not very smart” I think.

    More importantly, it would mean that our heroes are gloves.
    But, hey they got out of worse situations already.

    I doubt that Hoffmann unknowingly is the one who has to marry, after Collette criticized him for the arranged marriage part of his plan he said „they are fine with it” implying that the partners are already choosen.

    And if he is the one the moles choose for this? He should hope for the best regarding his bride - I doubt that his „friends” or his other „friends” will let him back out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Why do the Knight of Jove want to recreate that scenario again
    Gil figured it out while guarding Klaus at the great hospital:
    legitimacy - to get a claim to rule over europe.

    And the clan around Tarvek/Tweedle/Seffie/KoJ/Mongfish
    has been working on that plan for a long time...
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    Hoffmann is officially my favorite character now. He is hilarious, charming and well-meaning and his solutions have that hilarious tendency to go horribly right.

    And even stranger, he seems to have a modicum of common sense, considering his solution to the underground war. And yet, even that solution puts Paris at risk of invasion, which is just like him to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hajo View Post
    Gil figured it out while guarding Klaus at the great hospital:
    legitimacy - to get a claim to rule over europe.

    And the clan around Tarvek/Tweedle/Seffie/KoJ/Mongfish
    has been working on that plan for a long time...
    I know that they had good reasons for this „plan”.
    I'm just saying it isn't a smart plan.
    They recreating events that led to their downfall to reach their goal. Just because of some fairy-tale.
    Okay, the original plan involved a fake, but it still is tempting fate.
    Working with the Others family would make it worse, but considering the way Martellus & co tend to act that match was made... somewhere really unpleasant. Even ignoring the original events involving the Storm King and the Heterodynes that mess would have blown up sooner or later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    I know that they had good reasons for this „plan”.
    I'm just saying it isn't a smart plan.
    They recreating events that led to their downfall to reach their goal. Just because of some fairy-tale.
    Okay, the original plan involved a fake, but it still is tempting fate.
    Working with the Others family would make it worse, but considering the way Martellus & co tend to act that match was made... somewhere really unpleasant. Even ignoring the original events involving the Storm King and the Heterodynes that mess would have blown up sooner or later.
    'Marriage' seems like a general enough plan that the failure last time was probably in the execution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethologica View Post
    'Marriage' seems like a general enough plan that the failure last time was probably in the execution.
    The problem isn't the „marriage” but the „Heterodyne” part of the plan. The combination of the two parts didn't end too well for the last guy wearing the crown. Trying it again is just tempting fate.
    I would give them points for the „fake” part, but... a Mongfish? Really? Even if we ignore Lucrezia they aren't what I would call trustworthy. Adding them to a family that already tries to wipe itself out seems „not very smart”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    The problem isn't the „marriage” but the „Heterodyne” part of the plan. The combination of the two parts didn't end too well for the last guy wearing the crown. Trying it again is just tempting fate.
    I would give them points for the „fake” part, but... a Mongfish? Really? Even if we ignore Lucrezia they aren't what I would call trustworthy. Adding them to a family that already tries to wipe itself out seems „not very smart”.
    So, (a) this is the 'too clever for their own good' bit, but also (b) it seems like it would have worked pretty well if Agatha and Lucrezia hadn't simultaneously turned up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    The problem isn't the „marriage” but the „Heterodyne” part of the plan. The combination of the two parts didn't end too well for the last guy wearing the crown. Trying it again is just tempting fate.
    I would give them points for the „fake” part, but... a Mongfish? Really? Even if we ignore Lucrezia they aren't what I would call trustworthy. Adding them to a family that already tries to wipe itself out seems „not very smart”.
    The plan doesn't have to make sense to you. I just had to make sense to them. The people in the KoJ are power-hungry nitwits who resented being under Klaus's thumb and who were desperate to get their power back, so it didn't take much for the plan to seem like an idea worth trying to them. It actually was less bad than the other ideas that some of them tried, IMO.

    That's basically Lethologica's (a), but worded differently.

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