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    Question The delicious gourmet adventurer!?

    Has the ever been any work on a chef class? or eating monster feats?

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    Not that I've seen. Flashy's Professional could probably do a good job representing it, but it might not be quite what you're looking for.
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    It feels close, but like you said not quite what I am looking for. I think what I am looking for is more a cross between the bard and hunter ranger minus spells. I appreciate the suggestion though.

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    Welp since scouring around has proved to be fruitless, guess I will just make one!

    Anyone have any suggestions for archetypes?

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    Baker: Supporty archetype focusing on delicious treats to heal and buff.

    Sashimi Chef: Melee damage dealer using knives.

    Grill Cook: Fire magic specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokugin View Post
    It feels close, but like you said not quite what I am looking for. I think what I am looking for is more a cross between the bard and hunter ranger minus spells. I appreciate the suggestion though.
    You see, the problem with answering this post is that you asked for a chef class but did not give anyone info really on what you wanted. The post above is really the only one that gives anyone any idea what you want. See, when you said chef, the first thing I thought of in 5e is The Lil' Chef character, which utilized a barbarian to be a chef.

    If you want help, we need more of an idea what you want. A chef is a job, so there is a lot of possibilities on what a chef pertains to. There are butchers who would be like barbarians, there are super skilled ones that would be like rogues, there are the ones that only eat what they kill like rangers, there are magical chefs that would be similar to a wizard or sorcerer, and there are a lot of other types I can think of off the top of my head but do not want to state to make this sentence even more of a run-on.

    In summary, it is really hard to even suggest an archetype like you want because we really have no info other than you want to cook things, which is easy to implement as a flavor of tons of things. Like in my mind, if you want a mix between bard and hunter ranger without spells, take one level of rogue (for expertise), then all the other levels in the Spell-less variant of ranger (provided on this page), and choose the hunter archetype. Really, the level of rogue is not even necessary, but getting expertise in something would likely make the concept easier to realize. Then pick a background that suits the idea, and you are done without having to homebrew a whole class or archetype. Alternatively, if you really want the idea about eating monsters and gaining some benefit, that is easier to homebrew as a single feat. But that idea just seems easier to implement by flavoring the poultices that the spell-less ranger gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ji6 View Post
    You see, the problem with answering this post is that you asked for a chef class but did not give anyone info really on what you wanted.
    You got me there!
    I was inspired by Dungeon Meshi(bato.to/comic/_/comics/dungeon-meshi-r13871) a manga all about eating monsters in a dungeon. Which lead me to wonder if there were actual classes or archetypes dedicated to being the party chef.

    So if I had to say what I was looking for it would be a class that's main feature would be that of the rangers favored enemy(flavored as knowing just how to cook them) and the bards inspiration(flavored as the bonus for eating a great meal). Maybe throwing in a pact of the blade like feature(flavored so that they could cook magical ingredients).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dokugin View Post
    You got me there!So if I had to say what I was looking for it would be a class that's main feature would be that of the rangers favored enemy(flavored as knowing just how to cook them) and the bards inspiration(flavored as the bonus for eating a great meal). Maybe throwing in a pact of the blade like feature(flavored so that they could cook magical ingredients)

    So, I think the spell-less ranger I mentioned is pretty good for this goal.

    You get
    • Favored Enemy: Can choose certain enemies to represent knowledge gained through cooking experience. The survival checks are useful to find them, and the intelligence checks will tell you how to properly get ingredients from them.
    • Favored Terrain: Gives expertise for INT/WIS checks related to your favored terrain, which could include properly utilizing the environment to cook (i.e. expertise in cooking in certain environments). Taking urban and using this to get expertise in cooking with proper tools is pretty useful (assuming you have proficiency, which you will get from background)
    • Fighting Style: Represents preferred hunting style or talents with cooking utensils, since chefs need to have some hunting tricks or fancy knife-work
    • Archetype: Can either utilize a beast like in Farcry to hunt with beastmaster, or gain fancy tricks against your recipes of choice with the Hunter archetype
    • Maneuvers: Can either further gain fighting skills, or more for your need for something like bardic inspiration, gain uses that help others like Rally (i.e. giving them energy from your great cooking that lasts until your next short rest, where you could do it again)
    • Poultices: Basically, you can prepare food in your downtime to give massive healing to teammates when they have a moment to breathe
    • Natural Antivenom: You have dealt with food long enough that accidentally poisoning yourself is a thing of the past, and you have even learned how to make your food force the poison out of others body
    • Call Natural Allies: Animals come to you now, makes cooking easier as they would be honored to be on your dishes. The DM picks these animals though, so they may not be tasty :P


    So, that sounds pretty similar to me to what you want, and I only listed some of the key features that seem relevant to what you would like. You get something similar to expertise, favored enemies, something similar to bardic inspiration (maneuvers that target allies), and some combat stuff. Also, a bunch of features that feel very chef-like when you think about it, like food so good it can heal wounds, some resistance to poison, and some other stuff. It also does not multi-class, so you do not have to worry about juggling different stats and features, and your DM will not have to wonder if your character will be a weak link in the party. You do not get a magical cooking weapon (unless you want to count the pet from Beastmaster as one :P ), but most likely a DM will drop you a nice cooking-themed weapon with this type of concept (or you could just theme your own weapons how you want, like a cheese-grater axe, bread rolling club, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokugin View Post
    You got me there!
    I was inspired by Dungeon Meshi(bato.to/comic/_/comics/dungeon-meshi-r13871) a manga all about eating monsters in a dungeon. Which lead me to wonder if there were actual classes or archetypes dedicated to being the party chef.

    So if I had to say what I was looking for it would be a class that's main feature would be that of the rangers favored enemy(flavored as knowing just how to cook them) and the bards inspiration(flavored as the bonus for eating a great meal). Maybe throwing in a pact of the blade like feature(flavored so that they could cook magical ingredients).
    sorry to jump in guys but I think he wants toriko( hunting beasts for ingridients portion) based character with main focus maybe on thr shokugeki no soma( cooking portion) aka he wants to hunt monsters like toriko and cook them like komatsu or soma

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    Quote Originally Posted by khadgar567 View Post
    sorry to jump in guys but I think he wants toriko( hunting beasts for ingridients portion) based character with main focus maybe on thr shokugeki no soma( cooking portion) aka he wants to hunt monsters like toriko and cook them like komatsu or soma
    Ahhh, got an idea how to do that then (because it sounds super specific and weird to perfectly translate over without just flavoring lots of things)? I tried looking over the comic he sent, but I did not have the patience to read enough to get what he wanted. I just tried to give him something similar in my previous post to the type of features he stated and figured he could fix the flavor to work better with his idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khadgar567 View Post
    sorry to jump in guys but I think he wants toriko( hunting beasts for ingridients portion) based character with main focus maybe on thr shokugeki no soma( cooking portion) aka he wants to hunt monsters like toriko and cook them like komatsu or soma
    Quote Originally Posted by ji6 View Post
    Ahhh, got an idea how to do that then (because it sounds super specific and weird to perfectly translate over without just flavoring lots of things)? I tried looking over the comic he sent, but I did not have the patience to read enough to get what he wanted. I just tried to give him something similar in my previous post to the type of features he stated and figured he could fix the flavor to work better with his idea.
    You both are right around the mark, I have looked at the UA No spell ranger before but the poultices and superiority dice have never felt right to me as it feels like it is just becoming a fighter archetype. Also I highly recommend both Torriko and Dungeon Meshi for reads. Creative worlds and awesome adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokugin View Post
    You both are right around the mark, I have looked at the UA No spell ranger before but the poultices and superiority dice have never felt right to me as it feels like it is just becoming a fighter archetype. Also I highly recommend both Torriko and Dungeon Meshi for reads. Creative worlds and awesome adventure.
    okay buddy if you want toriko focused character then whats the main focus of the class you want
    unarmed fighter types like toriko
    odd bastards like sunny, tomyrod
    hulking natural disaster like zebra
    or someone like match who has absulute skill in one weapon
    or in final case scared cat like komatsu( just focusses on coooking no combat skills)

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    ji6 here is a cleaner link for making knowledge checks

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    Quote Originally Posted by khadgar567 View Post
    okay buddy if you want toriko focused character then whats the main focus of the class you want
    unarmed fighter types like toriko
    odd bastards like sunny, tomyrod
    hulking natural disaster like zebra
    or someone like match who has absulute skill in one weapon
    or in final case scared cat like komatsu( just focusses on coooking no combat skills)
    Think more setsuno or chiyo, they are chefs but still capable of procuring their own ingredients.

    Also thanks for the link clarification, haven't reached the 10 post threshold for links and images yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokugin View Post
    Think more setsuno or chiyo, they are chefs but still capable of procuring their own ingredients.

    Also thanks for the link clarification, haven't reached the 10 post threshold for links and images yet.
    both ladies actually don't provide their own ingredients setsuno often uses toriko as means to get the ingredients ( which she pulls yoda gambit on komatsu to improve his skills) while chiyo uses gourmet corps employees as her means to get ingredients or in recent chapters case she uses temples ingredients
    from the basic reading you want high speed class focuses on knives as main weapon and some means to create a absolute control zone like ope ope no mi fruit ( one piece trafargar law) so you can cook in any where with in range

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    Quote Originally Posted by khadgar567 View Post
    both ladies actually don't provide their own ingredients setsuno often uses toriko as means to get the ingredients ( which she pulls yoda gambit on komatsu to improve his skills) while chiyo uses gourmet corps employees as her means to get ingredients or in recent chapters case she uses temples ingredients
    from the basic reading you want high speed class focuses on knives as main weapon and some means to create a absolute control zone like ope ope no mi fruit ( one piece trafargar law) so you can cook in any where with in range
    So many manga references!

    What I mean was capable of procuring their own ingredients. Even though they may have others acquire them, they are still a force to be reckoned with, ex. alfos pissing himself when setsuno shows up in ice hell.
    While if Komatsu was left alone he would perish if not for his melk knife.

    As for ope ope, sort of but less super natural.

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    I actually was doing a humerous attempt at a chef Wizarding School. The Culinary School!

    Level 2 A La Carte Menu (exactly like the UA'S Artifcer ability Infuse Scroll)

    Level 2 Drink Special (exactly like the UA'S Artificer ability Infuse Potion)

    Level 6 Catch of the Day - every Long Rest, the wizard rolls a 1d10. Based on the roll, they gain the benefits of the Elemental Adept Feat (ignore resistance, treat any damage rolls of 1 as 2) for whatever magical damage type they roll:
    1 Acid
    2 Cold
    3 Fire
    4 Fire
    5 Lightning
    6 Thunder
    7 Poison
    8 Force
    9 Psychic
    10 None (no benefits for that day)

    Level 10 Spice of Life - whenever you cast a spell that does damage where you gain the benefits from your Catch of the Day, you can choose to heal yourself or an ally you can see for 2d8.

    Level 14 Made from Scratch - You can ignore the cost or need for spell components, even for those spells that consume the components when cast.



    Please note these were put together on a whim a week or two ago and have not been vetted by anyone with a brain.
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