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    KAW So there!

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    A new ooc thread deserves a brand new podcast! Join me as I chat with Dark, Aed, Lleban and special guest, Blade, about the new rules tweaks for E6. We also play How do you Pronounce That? Featuring Corona, Ominivorous Ogre, Aventine and Gaius!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PepperP. View Post
    A new ooc thread deserves a brand new podcast! Join me as I chat with Dark, Aed, Lleban and special guest, Blade, about the new rules tweaks for E6. We also play How do you Pronounce That? Featuring Corona, Ominivorous Ogre, Aventine and Gaius!

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    I assumed the flavor of dueling was that it took place in THIS phase of a pre-modern battle.

    When two opposing battle lines meet on the field, and take the better part of an hour to psych themselves up to do something about it. So to spark things off, both sides send a champion to duel and kill each other hoping first blood will get everyone in the spirit of things.
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    It's plunderin' time!

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    Ah, that new thread smell. Time to build up my strongholds before Mine inevitably finds a way to attack us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentreto View Post
    Ah, that new thread smell. Time to build up my strongholds before Mine inevitably finds a way to attack us all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomHat View Post
    I assumed the flavor of dueling was that it took place in THIS phase of a pre-modern battle.

    When two opposing battle lines meet on the field, and take the better part of an hour to psych themselves up to do something about it. So to spark things off, both sides send a champion to duel and kill each other hoping first blood will get everyone in the spirit of things.
    Whatever works, really. Whether it takes place before the major clash of arms, or in the middle of it, the point is that it's a fairly spontaneous moment rather than one that's organised in advance, scripted and conducted according to a set of rules (as "duel" might otherwise suggest).
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    So Rules Question. Treasure can't be spent on Leader Gen Rolls, Tactical maneuvering, or duel rolls. But that doesn't specify Hero Generation. Can you spend Treasure on creating a Hero to increase the chance of getting a 10 Hero?
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    I actually considered mid-podcast that Dark hadn't mentioned hero generation on the list, but decided it was close enough to ruler generation that it was implied and wasn't worth interrupting Dark over. You absolutely cannot spend treasure on Hero generation.
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    Blade is correct. You cannot spend Treasure on Hero generation.

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    Cool. Wasn't sure if "Spending more money on training" was a valid idea or not.
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    There was a request to see some of the work I've done on my people's language (Sūwenanda). While the lexicon is still quite small (under 400 words at present) I am adding to it as I go as I find I need new words, so it's growing all the time.

    The lexicon and grammar tables are here. The explanatory reference grammar is here. It is also a long way from complete but may contain some critical information to make sense of how the language is put together.

    There are a few easter eggs, but I have tried to keep it fairly "straight" for the most part rather than build a lexicon entirely out of in-jokes, especially in case I ever want to use it for anything else.

    I do not expect anyone else to use it or even to read the stuff I write in it, and anything that's meant to be understoof will always be translated into English, but it's there for anyone who's interested, or where they suspect that my characters are throwing out sick burns that are getting lost in translation, or the like
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    Sikar event is up. Bring gifts and writing samples!

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    Aed, your second link there appears to be broken.

    Wonderful podcast, of course. As for How Do You Pronounce That?:

    About my name, it's one of the Seven Hills of Rome, and to be honest I've only ever seen it written, that I can remember at least. So I don't actually know what the "proper" English pronunciation is. Personally, I rhyme it with "fine," but that's purely because it ends with -ine so it's just how I naturally read it when I don't really think too hard about it. Certainly, that's not how the i would be pronounced in the original Latin, for what little that matters to modern English pronunciation of Latin. Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying I don't actually know, so pronounce it however feels right to you, I won't judge.

    About Džíu Phè Hwǔ, in IPA it is [ʥiɯ̯˥ pʰe˩ ʍu˨˦]. So the dž is basically an English soft g, ph is closer to a p followed by an h than the Greek phi ph for f, and hw is English wh, as pronounced by someone who actually distinguishes w and wh. Then the first word has a high tone, the second a low one, and the third rises from low-ish to high-ish.

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    Just popping in to say hey in the OoC!

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    Quick question about attending events- that is supposed to take an action, right? I've seen a couple of people in the IC attending events as a non-action. Is that an option, if you want to be there but don't want to invest in the mechanical weight of spending an action on being able to trade and suchlike at the event?

    And as long as I'm pestering people about rules, I have a couple of questions regarding the Org actions. First, does it take an action to follow up on the lore requests from the orgs? I understand that you can get favors by contributing actions to the great projects, just wondering if it takes an action to submit the fluff stuff that's been requested as well.
    Finally, regarding the offer from the Dreamspeakers to explore an adjacent region- can the Dreamspeakers be assumed to have the tools to cross otherwise impassable borders? I'm considering asking them to explore the Arctic border to my North, but wanted to check that that's an option.
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    So for the Event question: Showing up to an event and doing some RP and shaking hands and smiling and all that good stuff does not require an action. If you want to do anything with concrete mechanical effects that will change tables for bookkeeping purposes though that will require an action and you can do as many of them as you have available with one diplomacy action at one event with the people present. Spend one action and trade a unit to Kingdom A for Technology, trade some Tech you already have to Kingdom B for Treasure, and so on and so forth.

    I can't speak on the Org actions really, that's way more Rando territory, but I suspect that the submission of the fluff stuff does not explicitly require an action just some time and effort on your part.
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    Aed, your second link there appears to be broken.
    Whoops, looks like I copy-pasted the wrong thing. It should work now hopefully.

    About my name, it's one of the Seven Hills of Rome, and to be honest I've only ever seen it written, that I can remember at least. So I don't actually know what the "proper" English pronunciation is. Personally, I rhyme it with "fine," but that's purely because it ends with -ine so it's just how I naturally read it when I don't really think too hard about it. Certainly, that's not how the i would be pronounced in the original Latin, for what little that matters to modern English pronunciation of Latin. Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying I don't actually know, so pronounce it however feels right to you, I won't judge.
    I suspect that you're right: the Romans would have pronounced it with /i:/ but as far as I'm aware the English pronunciation is /aɪ/ (as in "Palatine").
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    Well, this looks interesting. Is this open for further players to join (obviously I'd have to start in Round 2). Also, do I pick a region and submit a writeup for approval, or do I get assigned a region and have to work with that for the writeup? If it's the second, I would prefer to be in Kiswa or Mammut, I have some interesting ideas for both sectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaderAt2046 View Post
    Well, this looks interesting. Is this open for further players to join (obviously I'd have to start in Round 2). Also, do I pick a region and submit a writeup for approval, or do I get assigned a region and have to work with that for the writeup? If it's the second, I would prefer to be in Kiswa or Mammut, I have some interesting ideas for both sectors.
    Great to see interest in the game!
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    Question for the GMs: if there's both a successful Slander and a successful Reputation Raise in the same round (same nation, same Org), I assume the effects simply cancel each other out? And what would be the fluff behind such a strange sequence of events?
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    Just want to check something with the GM's the current rules say that we can buyout regions aslong as they are revealed. However there was talk about adjusting the rules to match conversions and needing an explored land connection. I wish to buy a trade post in a region that is explored but not connected so would like to know if we are following the current rules still? With the necessity of required materials I vote for keeping the current rules if that matters.
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    Well, this looks interesting. Is this open for further players to join (obviously I'd have to start in Round 2). Also, do I pick a region and submit a writeup for approval, or do I get assigned a region and have to work with that for the writeup? If it's the second, I would prefer to be in Kiswa or Mammut, I have some interesting ideas for both sectors.
    Hey Reader! Long time no see. We currently have 40 players so we've paused recruitment for the time being; however, I'm sure Dark will add you to the waiting list. Things were done a bit ad-hoc with the first round of recruitment but I suspect for further new additions Dark would ask roughly what sort of terrain you wanted, and assuming one such existed, allocate you a region so you could write it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Hermicus View Post
    Question for the GMs: if there's both a successful Slander and a successful Reputation Raise in the same round (same nation, same Org), I assume the effects simply cancel each other out? And what would be the fluff behind such a strange sequence of events?
    The effects would cancel each other out. IC, it probably reflects increased ambivalence: the slander may have swayed some of the organization against you, but other members will have a more positive opinion, so although people have had their minds changed, overall the organization continues to treat you in the same way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moriko View Post
    Just want to check something with the GM's the current rules say that we can buyout regions aslong as they are revealed. However there was talk about adjusting the rules to match conversions and needing an explored land connection. I wish to buy a trade post in a region that is explored but not connected so would like to know if we are following the current rules still? With the necessity of required materials I vote for keeping the current rules if that matters.
    Current ruling is that buyouts now match conversions, so you can only buyout in regions that you're connected to. The RAW do not yet reflect this. The difficulty of obtaining resource requirements at this point will be taken into account when dealing with the consequences.
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    For prosperity and to save this in the OOC once we leave the Round 1 Mamut Event, we present:

    How to Play Ko-ball-d

    Okay - First Ko-Ball-D Rules Updates to account for the Ko-Ball and after running a couple games:

    1. Throwing:
      • Thrower: 2d6 - (1d6- Thrower Team's Dip)
      • O-Line: 1d6 -> If higher than Thrower, Throw is prevented. If tied then Catch Roll gets -1.
    2. Receiving:
      • Catch Roll - 2d6+Thrower Team's Military -[O-Line penalty if any] -> for successful catch needs to be > than both or = to either the thrower roll and the Cornerback roll.
      • Cornerback - 1d6+Opposing Teams Int AND Opposing Teams Military Score.

    League Team Names TBD.

    Each team has 3 rounds throwing/catching and each team has 3 rounds defending. Alternating. There is no overtime, if its a tie it's a tie.

    So a full game would involve (4 rolls per round) * 6 Rounds = 24 rolls. If games are actually played in the future, I would suggest making all the rolls at once (you can easily adjust any O-Line tie to see if a catch was made) to see how the game goes and then write it out.

    Proposed League Structure: Continent Wide Round Robin. Wins are +3, Ties 1, Losses 0 (these are essentially FIFA rules). Winners (highest total) compete in bracket version of final four. No ties in final 4. After the 6 rounds, sudden death rounds. Southern Conference/Northern Conference division split.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent_Interim View Post
    And as long as I'm pestering people about rules, I have a couple of questions regarding the Org actions. First, does it take an action to follow up on the lore requests from the orgs? I understand that you can get favors by contributing actions to the great projects, just wondering if it takes an action to submit the fluff stuff that's been requested as well.
    Finally, regarding the offer from the Dreamspeakers to explore an adjacent region- can the Dreamspeakers be assumed to have the tools to cross otherwise impassable borders? I'm considering asking them to explore the Arctic border to my North, but wanted to check that that's an option.
    No action to submit fluff to fulfill Org requests (Family Trees, tall tales, whatever might come next) but I do ask you ping me here, on Discord, or simply with a notation in your IC post if you're making a submission for an Org Request so I catch it and can tally it up at round end when updating the Org table. I check IC posts pretty regularly so as long as it's there and noted clearly I should catch it but a poke won't hurt especially if it's being released late in the round.

    I believe the DSP would be capable of exploring across "tough" borders not so much because they have tools and equipment to traverse it from one side to the other (outside walking there via Twilight Dreaming woo-woo magic) but because they can contact any Dream Speakers on the other side and ask them what's up. Unfortunately without a tech to cross the border yourself in a meaningful (RE: Mechanical) fashion this information is likely to be of very limited use. You wouldn't be able to interact with the region until you had the means to cross the border.

    If DarkDM disagrees with this he can obviously overrule me but this seems to make the most sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Hermicus View Post
    Question for the GMs: if there's both a successful Slander and a successful Reputation Raise in the same round (same nation, same Org), I assume the effects simply cancel each other out? And what would be the fluff behind such a strange sequence of events?
    Quote Originally Posted by Aedilred View Post
    The effects would cancel each other out. IC, it probably reflects increased ambivalence: the slander may have swayed some of the organization against you, but other members will have a more positive opinion, so although people have had their minds changed, overall the organization continues to treat you in the same way.
    Aed is correct here. Some people like you more but others like you less in an equal proportion resulting in no real change in the overall opinion.
    Thanks to Gengy for the avatar.

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    In case anyone who's interested didn't see, the event for Tarandi is up! Here's the link

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    Hear ye, hear ye, the link to the tables is here.

    Hopefully these will be self-explanatory, but if you have any queries or spot any errors at this point please let me know.

    These tables are the principal record of Things That Are in the game. It's what we will use to calculate rolls, and your status for determining NPC/GM events, and so on. These are centrally managed but errors may creep in: please notify us - preferably sooner rather than later.

    Also, you will note that a number of you do not have rulers or ruler stats listed on the "Kingdoms" tab. If this is because I have missed something, please let me know. If it is because you have not yet generated a ruler, please do that.
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    A note for the tables, Zabbarot and I had agreed we had shared scripts in the time when Crow was still with Scavengers and the name for our joint written language was Kagahara.
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