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    It is a world ruled by Mad Science! Things happen. Usually, they happen to other people. This is entertainment. That's when the front door gets blown in- And you belatedly realize that, once again, you are doomed to be the entertainment in another exciting installment of: GIRL GENIUS!

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    Alas, poor Bartleby. Alas. He should have preferred not to try to open the door.
    Since we were told Wednesday that Zadilev had reached the door and Madwa was with him, the Spark is clearly Zadilev.
    Obviously, since the door has a clock on it, it opens at the right time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Obviously, since the door has a clock on it, it opens at the right time.
    It's obvious is it? My wrist has a clock on it. That's a frightening thought!

    That could be the case, though. As I said in the old thread, Zardilev might have known about the door all along, despite what he told Madwa. If so, he might have entered the vaults at the right time to be there when this vault opens.

    From the old thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    That's a thought. Zardilev's disconnect from family politics means he doesn't know about Madwa going renegade.
    The fact that Zardilev lived as long as he does probably means that he is familiar with family politics. There is a big difference between not getting involved in and not knowing about. Even if Zardilev didn't know, Madwa killing off so many people would probably mean that something was wrong.
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    Most Sparks rack up a higher body count per month due to accidental explosions (to say nothing of Intentional Explosions).

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    Think Hoffman's helmet would be able to see through whatever tech Smoke Knights use for their illusions?

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    The joke here is that Madwa is standing there in plain sight, but somehow no one notices her?
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Glyphstone View Post
    The joke here is that Madwa is standing there in plain sight, but somehow no one notices her?
    No, somehow between panels she replaced herself with a cutout that is highly specific to her pose and current action. Like the epic version of Violetta's "swap hostage for inconvenient object" trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landis963 View Post
    No, somehow between panels she replaced herself with a cutout that is highly specific to her pose and current action. Like the epic version of Violetta's "swap hostage for inconvenient object" trick.
    Yeah, I see now. I didn't notice the two-dimensional-ness in the 4th panel, I thought she was behind Violetta and not vice versa.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fel, on quest rewards View Post
    "Is a stack of ten pancakes too many pancakes to give to the party, even if most of them fell on the floor and one or two were stepped on? I wanted to give my party pancakes as a reward but I'm unsure if it's too much. The pancakes are also laced with blowfish poison so the party would have to get an antitoxin before they could eat the ones which weren't pulverized by shoes."

    I don't think anyone would want those pancakes even if you paid them to eat them.

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    It took me a couple reads to get it too.

    Also, just a couple days too late for the newest potential thread title. SCIENCE!

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    Science, it works!
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    Honnetly that caldboard cutout joke fell ...flat.

    ... I didn't quite get the "we'd have to let you live ... for a very long time" instead of the usual "we'd have to kill you" joke. (is it that he's implying and/or emprisonement ?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    Honnetly that caldboard cutout joke fell ...flat.
    Yeah, if you want good jokes these days, you really have to spring for paper-view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    Honnetly that caldboard cutout joke fell ...flat.

    ... I didn't quite get the "we'd have to let you live ... for a very long time" instead of the usual "we'd have to kill you" joke. (is it that he's implying and/or emprisonement ?)
    Implying that the really long life would be a fate worse than death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkis View Post
    Implying that the really long life would be a fate worse than death.
    Yeah, they'll do horrible things to her while still keeping her alive.

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    I think the joke is that if Agatha learned how to do it they wouldn't be able to catch/kill her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    ... I didn't quite get the "we'd have to let you live ... for a very long time" instead of the usual "we'd have to kill you" joke. (is it that he's implying and/or emprisonement ?)
    He's saying that they would torture her for a long time and not let her die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    He's saying that they would torture her for a long time and not let her die.
    Nah, there's be no point to that, she wouldn't know anything that they hadn't told her. He just means they'd do nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    Nah, there's be no point to that, she wouldn't know anything that they hadn't told her. He just means they'd do nothing.
    It's a joke. It isn't supposed to make sense. Also, if you think about it, what you said applies to the "If I told you, I'd have to kill you" cliche, anyway. This is merely a humorous exaggeration of that. He would make her live though something worse than death.

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    I think it was a joke that didn't exactly go as well as it was intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    It's a joke. It isn't supposed to make sense. Also, if you think about it, what you said applies to the "If I told you, I'd have to kill you" cliche, anyway. This is merely a humorous exaggeration of that. He would make her live though something worse than death.
    Yeah it's a joke. The joke is it totally inverts the "we'd have to kill you" idiocy. That means the joke works better, IMO, if there is no threat.

    Quote Originally Posted by petersohn View Post
    I think it was a joke that didn't exactly go as well as it was intended.
    Au contraire.

    Some confusion, but it's a fine joke.
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    I am not sure Agatha's action makes sense. You've got a supremely evil renegade Smoke Knight here, she knows other Smoke Knights have a 'terminate on sight' order on her, they're going to be interfering with her efforts to help the Other, and Agatha expects her to stand down and not attempt to escape or fight to the death?

    I like that it was when Madwa realized she could smell something but Zardilev couldn't that she knew the jig was up and it was time for gas masks. I expect she's going to be trying to kill the group all the way back to the entrance and maybe beyond.

    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    Honnetly that caldboard cutout joke fell ...flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    You've got a supremely evil renegade Smoke Knight here
    No we don't, we have a cut-out image of a supremely evil renegade Smoke Knight. Madwa has already escaped.

    ...

    OK, I missed that you were talking about Agatha's point of view when she was asking "Stand down!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    Honnetly that caldboard cutout joke fell ...flat.

    ... I didn't quite get the "we'd have to let you live ... for a very long time" instead of the usual "we'd have to kill you" joke. (is it that he's implying and/or emprisonement ?)
    I took it to mean, given Agatha's reaction, that she'd be a long time dying. Why they would need to torture her for having learned a secret rather than just cutting her throat escapes me as readily as Madwa escapes.

    Also agreed that trying to negotiate with someone like Madwa is naive even for early-strip Agatha. Now? Seems out of character.

    I just noticed that the cardboard cutout lacks the black diamond "caste mark" on the forehead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I just noticed that the cardboard cutout lacks the black diamond "caste mark" on the forehead.
    Probably an art mistake, if you look carefully it's present in the next panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I took it to mean, given Agatha's reaction, that she'd be a long time dying. Why they would need to torture her for having learned a secret rather than just cutting her throat escapes me as readily as Madwa escapes.
    They would do it (or at least say they would do it) because they are smoke knights. They would want people to think that if you learn a smoke knight's secret, you would suffer horribly, so you had better not try to learn them. It would be part of their mystique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eschmenk View Post
    They would do it (or at least say they would do it) because they are smoke knights. They would want people to think that if you learn a smoke knight's secret, you would suffer horribly, so you had better not try to learn them. It would be part of their mystique.
    For most people, dying is sufficient deterrent.
    For Sparks, there probably is no sufficient deterrent. Telling a Spark "This is a secret no one is allowed to know" is like putting a wrapped bone under the tree and expecting your dog not to open it before Christmas.
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    Nah, they do the unexpected. I figure they would use the high end Moveit formula for some "CHOPHEADTINYBITS!"
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