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Thread: Ability Minimum Level Precedents
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2016-05-27, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2013
Ability Minimum Level Precedents
So its come to my decision that certain abilities shouldn't appear earlier than certain levels. Immunities are a big culprit. So I thought I'd make a chart showing the First level where an ability should be available.
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Level Abilty 1st 0-level spells, 1st level spellcasting, Sneak Attack Xd6 at level (2X-1) 2nd Evasion 3rd 2nd level spellcasting 4th - 5th 3rd level spellcasting 6th - 7th 4th level spellcasting 8th - 9th 5th level spellcasting 10th - 11th 6th level spellcasting 12th - 13th 7th level spellcasting 14th - 15th 8th level spellcasting 16th - 17th 9th level spellcasting 18th - 19th - 20th -
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2016-05-29, 08:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ability Minimum Level Precedents
There are a few classes which get Evasion at 2nd level - rogues and monks most obviously. Is there a reason to change that to 3rd?
All 2nd level (+) spells aren't made alike. The tiefling & aasimar racial abilities to call up light & darkness once a day aren't out of line at 1st level IME.
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2016-05-30, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2013
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- Bethesda, MD
Re: Ability Minimum Level Precedents
I suspect that a big reason that evasion and uncanny dodge aren't available at first level for rogues is to prevent dips. Neither ability is too powerful for a first-level character; they just shouldn't be available to most other classes without a serious multiclass investment. If a game did not allow multiclassing, I'd have no problem giving those to rogues at first level.
The one thing that I can think of offhand that should be restricted away from extremely low-level characters entirely (not just to prevent dips) is damage reduction. That probably shouldn't show up until level four at the earliest.
Actually, another thing is flight. It completely negates so many obstacles and encounters that it should not be available until level five or so. Yes, I know some races, even low race point races, get it at level one. I think that is broken.
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2016-06-22, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ability Minimum Level Precedents
Evasion level 3 was an oversight I did it from memory not looking at the class. And the spells refers to generic spell casting ability, not independent spell-likes. The list is intended for generic class design as a guide to avoid bad practices.
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2016-06-22, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Ability Minimum Level Precedents
Sneak Attack Xd6 at level (2X-1)?