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    I can hit the turtle from I3, right?

    Is there enough solid ground to stand on I3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desril View Post
    I can hit the turtle from I3, right?

    Is there enough solid ground to stand on I3?
    You can definitely hit the turtle from I3 and I'll allow that there's just enough solid ground there. Any further south and you'd be swimming though.
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    Alright. I'll post later this evening then, about to start a very long Civ game.
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    Because I was wondering what Red would do on her turn, here's a few things in case anyone else wants to attempt them.

    If you're going to melee attack the turtle, either be in a square adjacent to it (land or water) or jump on top of it.

    If you want to jump onto the turtle, depending on what you're doing (clarify with me), roll for either Acrobatics or CMB vs the turtle's CMD. Success means you're on the turtle, make an Acrobatics DC 13 check each subsequent round to avoid falling off. Failure means you're in the water. The turtle gets its AoO when you jump.

    If you're in the water in a 10 feet radius around the turtle, make a Swim DC 13 check each round to avoid getting blatted by a turtle limb for 2d4+6 damage and going underwater. You can climb the shell of the turtle with Climb DC 15. The turtle still gets its AoO if it hasnt already used it up that combat round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    Turtle's got 15 foot reach and will definitely be going for Rico. Do your AoOs as necessary!
    FIFTEEN?
    If Reach between two combatants is equal, then does that mean that there is NO AoO provoked?

    DOES it have a blind spot in the immediately-adjacent 5-ft area around it?

    And if Reach is equal, heck, that means switching to the sword is NOT a realistic option, unless I want to eat AoOs at every sally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Desril View Post
    Sad that we have to kill the turtle, oh well...
    Same, same, for every simple animal that we've encountered throughout this campaign. Whether used by us, or used against us. The cayhounds, the goblin dogs, the owlbear, that goblin shaman's snake (wait, or was it a big cat?) and now THIS thing. (Hope I didn't miss any?) They're JUST animals. Innocents.

    Though, some less than others...
    ..."pest/danger/active threat" does go some way towards lessening remorse. Personal experience on that, with rat-hunting. Friggin' vicious vile vermin.
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    I guess if both opponents just remained at the max reach range without going up close, then no to AoO. But turtle is closing with Rico here, so AoO applies. If you're already in the reach space on the start of your turn, don't bother with the AoO. But if turtle goes for someone else besides Rico who enters its reach space, I'll give Rico an AoO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    I guess if both opponents just remained at the max reach range without going up close, then no to AoO. But turtle is closing with Rico here, so AoO applies. If you're already in the reach space on the start of your turn, don't bother with the AoO. But if turtle goes for someone else besides Rico who enters its reach space, I'll give Rico an AoO.
    Understood, chief. And 5-ft aways still don't provoke, yeah?

    OH, right, AoO!
    (1d20+13)[25]
    (1d8+8)[15]

    snapping like a demon at Rico's shield and shoulders even as it tries to crush her against the river bank with a flailing swat of its heavy front claw.
    Interesting description, ma'am...

    ...koff, just so's we're clear. Rico's current config is JUST with the Impaler longspear, since you'd ruled previously on "NO shield-and-polearm". The shield IS currently slung back. Though any attack that would hit her on the shoulder will also hit the shield, ha-ha.

    Though... CAN I take this as a sign that it's open to haggling once again? If so, may I cite that http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons heading: "Weapon Size", subarticle "Inappropriately Sized Weapons". Along the same vein, and with a similar -2 penalty, CAN polearms be wielded while having a shield equipped on the other arm?
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    I don't think the Impaler is sized for that... Or is it?
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    Using a 2 handed weapon 1 handed isn't a case of them not being size appropriate. It just doesn't work baring specific archetypes or builds that specifically allow it. There are a couple of things for polearms but none that Rico has.
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    Understood, very well, then. Was worth a try.

    Haggle--- IF it's not THAT long a polearm, like, say, JUST a "Spear", would that be good for pairing with a shield?

    Also, mea culpa on my part. I forgot to re-calc stuff to account for Enlargement.
    On the AoO, that 25 should be a 26.
    And the damage should be (2d6+10)[20]

    Also...
    Regarding Initiative:
    Request correction? When you ordered the Initiative roll earlier, I did so, got a 10. Am citing OOC#100.
    And curiousity regarding Shalelu: She has ONLY a Dex 16? Is very surprising, that.

    Edit:
    Am currently constructing IC. Just realized. Holy crap. That damage roll wasn't even maxed, and it knocked almost half of Rico's HP clean off.
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    Interestingly enough, the Weapons PFSRD distinguishes the 3 foot (thrown) shortspear as a one-handed weapon vs the 5 foot spear and the 8 foot longspear as two-handed weapons. Impaler of Thorns functions as a +1 longspear though, for all intents and purposes.

    Noted about the Initiative, will fix next IC post.

    Surprisingly, yes, Shalelu has 16 DEX. She's statted out for ranger-fighter rather than pure ranger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    Interestingly enough, the Weapons PFSRD distinguishes the 3 foot (thrown) shortspear as a one-handed weapon vs the 5 foot spear and the 8 foot longspear as two-handed weapons. Impaler of Thorns functions as a +1 longspear though, for all intents and purposes.

    Noted about the Initiative, will fix next IC post.

    Surprisingly, yes, Shalelu has 16 DEX. She's statted out for ranger-fighter rather than pure ranger.
    Hmmmmm, fair, fair.

    Right, thanks.

    Her build's... not exactly archery-focused, is it?
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    She's adept in both longbow and shortsword, if it comes to that.
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    Righto. Cranking out the IC tomorrow. Four more days and my kids will sit for the big exam, leaving me with only admin work to bother about now.

    BREATHE. Hope you're all keeping well, folks. Especially the US of A peeps. Hope things turns out well for you, no matter how your big decision leader vote goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    Righto. Cranking out the IC tomorrow. Four more days and my kids will sit for the big exam, leaving me with only admin work to bother about now.

    BREATHE. Hope you're all keeping well, folks. Especially the US of A peeps. Hope things turns out well for you, no matter how your big decision leader vote goes.
    My preferred course of action is to use whatever the result is to seek asylum elsewhere >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    Righto. Cranking out the IC tomorrow. Four more days and my kids will sit for the big exam, leaving me with only admin work to bother about now.

    BREATHE. Hope you're all keeping well, folks. Especially the US of A peeps. Hope things turns out well for you, no matter how your big decision leader vote goes.
    Rock and roll, keep on going, ma'am!

    Good newses from my end, then: Mental-flood is currently low. ONLY had ONE cry today. And on elsewhere, I got payyyyyyyyyddddddd. It's even enough to have a decent bit left over after paying the [bill/s].

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    My preferred course of action is to use whatever the result is to seek asylum elsewhere >.>
    Feel free to come on down here, then. Pretty sure I might have a decent chance to secure you at least some temporary lodgings.
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    Sorry I didn't post yesterday, I had a thing to go to and by the time I got out of it I was incredibly drained. After I woke up from my nap I forgot to post! And today I'm going to be hanging out with friends until we all get tired and go home. I'll get a reply up tomorrow at the latest!
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    FYI Mira, you can't turn off power attack mid turn. In 3.5 you determined it per hit, but in PF you decide when you make your first attack of the round whether or not to power attack. If it's on, it's on until the end of the round. You can't use it on your first attack and turn it off on the iterative.

    Insomnia sucks, I didn't get enough sleep but I'll see if I can get a post out.

    Also nobody is flanking unless I'm really tired and misreading the map.
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    Spending 2 AP for Perfect Strike for x3 multiplier if confirmed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desril View Post
    Sorry I didn't post yesterday, I had a thing to go to and by the time I got out of it I was incredibly drained. After I woke up from my nap I forgot to post! And today I'm going to be hanging out with friends until we all get tired and go home. I'll get a reply up tomorrow at the latest!
    Sorrytahear. Hope you're feeling better, by the time you get this?

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    FYI Mira, you can't turn off power attack mid turn. In 3.5 you determined it per hit, but in PF you decide when you make your first attack of the round whether or not to power attack. If it's on, it's on until the end of the round. You can't use it on your first attack and turn it off on the iterative.

    Insomnia sucks, I didn't get enough sleep but I'll see if I can get a post out.

    Also nobody is flanking unless I'm really tired and misreading the map.
    That's... what I'd always been doing?

    Da Chief is free and rightful to correct me if I'm wrong on that?

    As well, regarding the Flanking. And, I figgered, if LARGE-ish bases, right? And Rico goes left-wise, Red goes down-wise, the Flanka-connection-a should be good, yeah?

    And dude, please don't un-health yourself. SLEEP.

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    Critical threat [roll0]
    Damage [roll1] + [roll2]
    MUCH as I abso-friggin-hate Richard-measuring contests...

    ...HOW IN THE FRIGGIN HELL DID YOU DO THAT?

    Edit that to present-friggin-progressive-tense? Present-present-present, HOW?
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    Sorrytahear. Hope you're feeling better, by the time you get this?


    That's... what I'd always been doing?

    Da Chief is free and rightful to correct me if I'm wrong on that?

    As well, regarding the Flanking. And, I figgered, if LARGE-ish bases, right? And Rico goes left-wise, Red goes down-wise, the Flanka-connection-a should be good, yeah?

    And dude, please don't un-health yourself. SLEEP.


    MUCH as I abso-friggin-hate Richard-measuring contests...

    ...HOW IN THE FRIGGIN HELL DID YOU DO THAT?

    Edit that to present-friggin-progressive-tense? Present-present-present, HOW?


    I'm fine now. Didn't get enough sleep today but took a nap a couple hours ago so feeling much better.


    That said,
    Quote Originally Posted by Power Attack
    You can choose to take a 1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by 1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage.
    As for how I did that...
    Arcane Pool to give Mae +1 and Keen last round, Keen Katana = 15-20 x2 crit range
    I rolled a 15 on the attack, crit threat. Confirmed the crit.
    Kensai Magus trades out Spell Recall for "Perfect Strike" I can spend 1 Arcane Pool point to decide "I just rolled max damage on the weapon damage die" on any given hit, or, if I land a crit, I can spend 2 Arcane Pool to increase the weapon's damage multiplier by 1 (in the case of Maethilur, going from a x2 to a x3).

    Spell damage is always only x2 though, so I got (1d8+8)*3 and (5d6)*2

    That said, I can only do that a few times a day at best, since I got lucky and that was a Shocking Grasp attack, I only have a few of those, and without Spell Recall I don't have a way to recover them like most magi. Magus is really good at burst damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desril View Post
    I'm fine now. Didn't get enough sleep today but took a nap a couple hours ago so feeling much better.

    That said,

    As for how I did that...
    Arcane Pool to give Mae +1 and Keen last round, Keen Katana = 15-20 x2 crit range
    I rolled a 15 on the attack, crit threat. Confirmed the crit.
    Kensai Magus trades out Spell Recall for "Perfect Strike" I can spend 1 Arcane Pool point to decide "I just rolled max damage on the weapon damage die" on any given hit, or, if I land a crit, I can spend 2 Arcane Pool to increase the weapon's damage multiplier by 1 (in the case of Maethilur, going from a x2 to a x3).

    Spell damage is always only x2 though, so I got (1d8+8)*3 and (5d6)*2

    That said, I can only do that a few times a day at best, since I got lucky and that was a Shocking Grasp attack, I only have a few of those, and without Spell Recall I don't have a way to recover them like most magi. Magus is really good at burst damage.
    Good fer ye.

    Thanks fer pointing out...

    ...though, with respect to you, I think I'll wait for the GM's judgment on the matter. Rules as written may be cut and dry on it, but, if there's a point I can haggle on and get my nails into, damned well, I'll haggle.

    Uh-huh. Right. And... "defences down"... "no usual abjurations"... yet AC is stratospheric 25? Praytell astound this simpleton cretin once again? HOW? DO? YA? DO? DAT?

    PS
    Contingency apologies for any roughness of tone. Am just... ASTOUNDED.
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    Good fer ye.

    Thanks fer pointing out...

    ...though, with respect to you, I think I'll wait for the GM's judgment on the matter. Rules as written may be cut and dry on it, but, if there's a point I can haggle on and get my nails into, damned well, I'll haggle.

    Uh-huh. Right. And... "defences down"... "no usual abjurations"... yet AC is stratospheric 25? Praytell astound this simpleton cretin once again? HOW? DO? YA? DO? DAT?
    Because I put basically all my wealth into defense. Kensai magus, again, gets Int to AC, so that gives me some to make up for the loss of armor proficiency. I'm a dex build so that adds more. I took the tiefling feat that gave Setsuna her marbled skin for another +2, Xanesha's shirt for a +1, a Ring of Protection for a +1, and the preerrata Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier with Fate's Favored for another +2.

    Bladebound means I don't need to put any money into a weapon, and I wanted her to be a shounen hero who can fight without armor, so I had to invest in alternative means of survivability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desril View Post
    Because I put basically all my wealth into defense. Kensai magus, again, gets Int to AC, so that gives me some to make up for the loss of armor proficiency. I'm a dex build so that adds more. I took the tiefling feat that gave Setsuna her marbled skin for another +2, Xanesha's shirt for a +1, a Ring of Protection for a +1, and the preerrata Jingasa of the Fortunate Soldier with Fate's Favored for another +2.

    Bladebound means I don't need to put any money into a weapon, and I wanted her to be a shounen hero who can fight without armor, so I had to invest in alternative means of survivability.
    Well done. Keep up the good work.

    Ya know, somebody could make a de/motivator poster with that. Sans your explanation/context, it'd be almost perfect for that "Pfft! Who Needs Armour?" or "It's Fantasy. Why Bother With Realism?"

    Ha-ha-ha. And if I'm getting screwed by Initiative order again, then HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hah. You remember back in Burnt Offerings, the encounter in the plaza? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Hah.
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    Eh. To be honest, Mira, I don't recall having ever approved a split Power Attack. If I could do that, I'd be doing it for all of Red's attacks since she's the one with the most iteratives.

    Turtle's down! (Way to go for useless jumping in the water, Red!) Will update the IC thread later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    Eh. To be honest, Mira, I don't recall having ever approved a split Power Attack. If I could do that, I'd be doing it for all of Red's attacks since she's the one with the most iteratives.

    Turtle's down! (Way to go for useless jumping in the water, Red!) Will update the IC thread later.
    Mea culpa, Dominus. Your will be done.

    Fookin' finally! LOOT IT AND COOK IT! Oh, right, and drag it the fawk out of the barge's way.
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    Typing up the IC post now.

    Mira, the turtle's dead before Rico's turn, so you can bank your rolls if you like.

    EDIT: Posted. I'd wanted to post for Red too, but it is past midnight and I am sleepy. Anyone who likes, post ahead of me. How would you all like to remove the turtle? Or is turtle soup on the menu for tonight? Or will any kind soul help Shalelu get those spears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maggie_mcknife View Post
    Typing up the IC post now.

    Mira, the turtle's dead before Rico's turn, so you can bank your rolls if you like.

    EDIT: Posted. I'd wanted to post for Red too, but it is past midnight and I am sleepy. Anyone who likes, post ahead of me. How would you all like to remove the turtle? Or is turtle soup on the menu for tonight? Or will any kind soul help Shalelu get those spears?
    Thank you for your good work, ma'am. Keep it up.

    WELP. DATZ PRIFFIN MOOT.

    Hope you're rested good.

    As to the banking? Correct me if I'm wrong, but our Houserule: Banked Rolls states that if one roll is to be banked, ALL rolls must be banked, yes? The closest to a decent roll in that batch was an 11. The first roll of the batch was a ONE. The other rolls are a FOUR and a FIVE. Thanks but hell no.

    REMOVE THE TURTLE, OF COURSE. What the heck else will this Enlarge Person be good for?

    YES, toss that in, get those spears out. What the heck else will this Enlarge be good for?

    YES, friggin' harvest the meat, the bone, the shell, don't waste.
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    Heh OK then, don't bank them then.
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    I'm hoping certain recent world events haven't stunned you all into silence... Shall I update the IC to move things along then?
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