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    Now THAT is what I've been waiting for. A V strip! Hooray!

    Oh, loved the logic behind Spell Books, BTW. I've run wizzies for ever and never understood all of the logic behind it. Oh, wait, its fantasy! Of course it makes sense! :)



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    At last we see what V has been scribing. Gv gv gv gv gv gv gv. Gotta love the laws of magic.

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    Awesome. Spellbooks are the worst proud nail in D&D, you know. Reminds me of first edition...

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    Fifth post, huzzah! I made the first page!
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    Vaarsuvius finally has a comic to himself! YAY!

    First page!
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    One word. Poor V, he can't ever get a break. Though I do beleive Miko does still owe him/her that gold from those spells he/she cast so it really wouldn't set him/her back too much
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    Superb comic as always. I do so love the way you point out the logical inconsistancies between the rules (which in this case are just issues of game balance, I think) and the roleplaying experience.

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    but it was one word! ONE! WORD! Poor Vaarsuvius...
    These laws of magic are rough...

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    Hilarious, sir :) It's a wonder we put up with that kind of nonsense in our games ;)

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    I've always wanted to rewrite some of these "rules of magic" as a DM.
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    That was SO good. I'm still panting with it. To say I read those rule recently again. Must makes it even funnier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n11
    I've always wanted to rewrite some of these "rules of magic" as a DM.
    As the DM, it is your perogative to re-write the rules as needs be/you see fit (I dare say most of us who game have house rules of various sorts). Even if you aren't the DM, you should be able to talk a good DM into reasonable changes that make things more sensible and/or fun.

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    Wow...they called V a "him"...

    You're just fueling the continuing debate, Rich ;D


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    Great comic Giant! Wow... the laws of magic don't like Vaarsuvious very much, and they refered to him/her as a HE.

    WOOT! 1st post!

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    I've had this exact same conversation before...

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    Poor, poor, Vaarsuvius.

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    He?? Is this a potential misconception of the NPCs, or a revelation of the gender of V?

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    Darn, I was hoping I could zoom in on V's spellbook and find out what the actual Power Word was... :)

    Great comic. Loved the spoof of scribing rules.

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    In the last frame they call V a "him". Does that mean he isn't androgenous anymore?

    Maybe I'm just dumb and didn't know that he was male all along.

    First time poster...first page.

    Edit: Drat, second page and someone else notice the "he" thing before me. :(

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    If they're waiting for V to sleep it off, they might be waiting for a while. After all, technically, V does not sleep. :)

    (Also, both of the other wizards perceived V as male. I would have expected something like Nale/Sabine, where each one uses a different pronoun. I expect this to cause much pointless argument in the V's Gender Debate thread. :) )

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    In the last frame they call V a "him". Does that mean he isn't androgenous anymore?

    Maybe I'm just dumb and didn't know that he was male all along.

    First time poster...first page.

    Edit: Drat, second page and someone else notice the "he" thing before me. :(
    Well, both of you posted while I was typing, so you're not alone. It's like this the first minutes after a new comic.

    In answer to (both of) your questions, ever since V was first referred to as "V-Man" in #9, Rich has repeatedly stated that other characters' lines simply reflect their perception of V's gender, not necessarily the reality. I above referred to Nale and Sabine; this was in #252, where Nale refers to V as "the elf chick" and Sabine says "the elf dude."
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    It's always nice to see Vaarsuvius justifiably going hysterical over absurdities. His usual calm, methodical nature makes his rants all the funnier!

    Also, I really got a kick out of the wizards' pointy hats. For some reason, they make me laugh. :)
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    ONE! WORD! ;D

    This does bring up the obvious question, are only the verbal components of a spell scribed into a spellbook, or are there attendant... meditative exercizes and/or magic theory involved as well? All the spells that have standard action casting times, are you really belting out N pages of verbal components when you cast that Nth level spell?

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    Hilarious. I second the question: was this TSR's fault or WotC's?

    I always assumed it was magical theory that took up all of the pages.
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    Nice, classic poke at some of the silly rules of the game ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Knight
    Also, I really got a kick out of the wizards' pointy hats. For some reason, they make me laugh. :)
    Me too, mainly because they are small enough to look like party hats. :)

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    If memory serves, V doesn't need that spell. According to a guest cartoonist, V just needs to disrobe and the looker will try to blast his own eyes out. Poor beholder...


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    Greatness!!

    I laughed until I cried. ;D

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