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Thread: Some Cheesy Questions
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2007-07-05, 02:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Some Cheesy Questions
1. Does a permanently enlarged to large size medium creature qualify for prestige classes that require large size?
2. In what ways can one increase reach, using only the following weapon group: Kukri, Kama, handaxe, daggers.
Awesome point for anyone who can figure out what I'm trying to do.
edit: Hint gestalt build.Last edited by Gralamin; 2007-07-05 at 02:25 AM.
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2007-07-05, 02:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Some Cheesy Questions
Hulking Hurler//swordsage or rogue?
I'd say a Permanent Enlarge Person effect would make you size Large, and as such you qualify. But if anyone dispels you , you immediately lose all class features of the PrCs and feats that require you to be large.
Far Shot and the Distance enchantment can get a dagger out to 60ft increments (matches a shortbow). For reach, Aberrant Blood and Inhuman Reach (wherever they are from) get you +5ft reach. There's an Iron Heart stance that gives you +5ft reach during your turn.Ralien, my elf soulknife, by Magioth.
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2007-07-05, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Some Cheesy Questions
Lunging Strike(CW or PHB2, can't remember and am at work) increases reach by 5ft, but it's a standard action to use (I think - in any case it prevents a full attack).
Edit: I believe the Aberrant Blood/Inhuman Reach feats are from Lords of Madness.
Also, as a humorous point: To increase reach, try Sovereign Glue + weapon + ten foot pole
And you're definitely doing something with a swordsage and a hulking hurler, due to the weapon group restriction and the size requirement.
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2007-07-05, 06:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-05, 06:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-05, 06:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Some Cheesy Questions
It's in there somewhere. It may be a sage advice thing though.
But yes, a permanent enlarge person spell will qualify you for a PrC that requires large size.
And I don't have the list on me right now but you can push the reach of a large character up to 35 feet without reach weapons.
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2007-07-05, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Some Cheesy Questions
To me, this is sounding like a Warhulk/Dervish situation... trying to get as many attacks in a round as possible... possibly Warhulk/Swordsage focusing on Tiger Fang
A Permenant Enlarge would allow you to qualify for a Warhulk, but if it gets dispelled, you loose all benefits, so it's probably not a good idea.SpoilerQuite possibly, the best rebuttal I have ever witnessed.
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2007-07-05, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Some Cheesy Questions
Ding ding we have a winner. Almost.
The general idea is a Thri-kreen 2 (LA buy off)/Warhulk10/Bloodclaw Master 5/Filler Class 3 (Fighter or barbarian)//Warblade 20.
By Increasing its reach, The Warhulk allows it to smash anyone it threatens, a total of 13 times per turn. Add in a Girrallon Windmill Flesh rip and thats up to 20d6 extra damage on each.
I wanted to fit Dervish in, But I have yet to find room. 26 attacks per turn on anything in reach would be nice.
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2007-07-05, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Some Cheesy Questions
If you want to be a War Hulk (one of the most broken prestige classes) or something similar, there are a variety of large races in Savage Species. For example, you can use the Minotaur racial class.
Another option is to use a Lycanthrope or my beloved Entomanothrope. Their alternate form often has Large Size, which would allow you to qualify. This also sets up a really interesting roleplaying dichotomy, in which you're very, very weak in your base form, but very, very strong in your alternate form.
Also, remember that the best lead in to War Hulk is Cleric, which gives you access to Divine Power.Last edited by Person_Man; 2007-07-05 at 12:13 PM.
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2007-07-05, 12:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-05, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Just the way I listed them. Currently this is the build:
SpoilerThri-kreen 1//Warblade 1 - Multiweapon Fighting, Flaw: Shaky, Willing Deformity
Thri-kreen 2//Warblade 2
Thri-kreen 3//Warblade 3 - Deformity (Tall)
Thri-kreen 4//Warblade 4
Fighter 1//Warblade 5 - Fighter Bonus: , Warblade Bonus: Improved Initative
Warhulk 1// Warblade 5 (LA Buy off)
Warhulk 2// Warblade 6 -
Warhulk 3// Warblade 7
Warhulk 4// Warblade 7 (LA Buy off)
Warhulk 5// Warblade 8
Warhulk 6// Warblade 9 - Improved Multiweapon Fighting, Warblade Bonus: Combat Reflexes
Warhulk 7// Warblade 10
Warhulk 8// Warblade 11
Warhulk 9// Warblade 12 -
Warhulk 10// Warblade 13 - Warblade Bonus:
Bloodclaw Master 1//Warblade 14
Bloodclaw Master 2//Warblade 15 - Greater Multiweapon Fighting
Bloodclaw Master 3//Warblade 16
Bloodclaw Master 4//Warblade 17 - Warblade Bonus: Tigerblooded
Bloodclaw Master 5//Warblade 18 -
Fighter 2//Warblade 19
Fighter 3//Warblade 20 - Fighter Bonus
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2007-07-05, 01:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-05, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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