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    Huh. I had really expected Eugene to have more of a reason to visit. Not sure what to make of this, then... perhaps the whole point was to show how far from LG Eugene has fallen, or to show that Roy would have to figure this out all by himself?
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    Wow I'm surprised I was on when a new comic updated. :D

    SO Roy wants, him to pawn the visits off on Julia. Too bad Eugine can't actually do that because he's bound to the sword or somesuch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerPen View Post
    Huh. I had really expected Eugene to have more of a reason to visit. Not sure what to make of this, then... perhaps the whole point was to show how far from LG Eugene has fallen, or to show that Roy would have to figure this out all on himself?
    Maybe to stress how far Roy has come in getting better at dealing with his father? When he was being judged, that was noted as something he should improve upon.
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    Shame, I rather liked the cryptic prophecies.

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    So understand how Roy feels. Only swap in "mother" instead of father.

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    Wait, Eugene abducted a deva?

    I thought he just pretended to be one.....

    Going to check the back catalogue!
    Geez, what is it with that guy and needing to figure out all the fiddly little details?

    I know, right? It's called "Suspension of Disbelief"...
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    Dang, I was hoping Eugene would have been more useful for this visit.

    Oh well, great comic nonetheless!
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    There you go, dad helped after all.
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    For the non english speaking people (like myself) "Pawn this visits off on Julia"="Go to visit Julia (instead of me)"?

    (If it's that, well, I doubt it can happen, AFAIR the reason he can appear to Roy is because Roy has the family sword)

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    Wait, Eugene abducted a deva?

    I thought he just pretended to be one.....

    Going to check the back catalogue!
    Yes, Toni. Abduction initially seemed like a big word to me, but thinking about it, Eugene and Shojo did their little schemes for quite a long time.
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    Wait, Eugene abducted a deva?

    I thought he just pretended to be one.....
    I believe he intercepted the real deva and was summoned in its place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerPen View Post
    Huh. I had really expected Eugene to have more of a reason to visit. Not sure what to make of this, then... perhaps the whole point was to show how far from LG Eugene has fallen, or to show that Roy would have to figure this out all by himself?
    It has established that dad can't help anymore. Also, reminds some people that letting all dwarves die is not a good thing(tm). But mostly, that Eugene's amazing scrying powers are no longer on the table, as they were up till now.

    Edit: also, it has helped Roy figure out how to unlock the powers of the sword on command - turns out frustration works wonders.

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    I find it interesting that he's the last oathspirit up there. Did the Celestials fast track some entries in light of the probable apocalypse?
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    Not quite sure what that was about. Like Eugene Ave some disturbing ideas and left. Is reducing Eugene to a slithering pile of sad, lonely man really necessary storytelling right now? The man's been trapped on a cloud virtually alone for decades. Do we really need to be sitting on him right now when there's bigger fish to fry? Or was this whole thing just supposed a heavy handed take that to the "Dwarven mass suicide" thing that the boys and girls were putting forward. I'm mean, it just seems to me that this was an excuse to flanderize Eugene some more.

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    Wait ... Eugene is the only Oathspirit left? Did everybody else have much easier oaths to fulfill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnoc View Post
    I find it interesting that he's the last oathspirit up there. Did the Celestials fast track some entries in light of the probable apocalypse?
    More likely, there weren't ever that many of them, and the previous to last was the woman he was sleeping with, and that we saw go in earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliaP View Post
    Wait, Eugene abducted a deva?

    I thought he just pretended to be one.....

    Going to check the back catalogue!
    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0292.html

    I figure that, once he tied that deva up - he moved the deva out of the way - hence the abduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkku View Post
    I believe he intercepted the real deva and was summoned in its place.
    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0292.html

    I bet Tony told everyone about that incident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Zero View Post
    For the non english speaking people (like myself) "Pawn this visits off on Julia"="Go to visit Julia (instead of me)"?

    (If it's that, well, I doubt it can happen, AFAIR the reason he can appear to Roy is because Roy has the family sword)
    Yes.

    And you are probably right, it's unlikely he can do that. But who knows, magic, am I right?
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    It was nice of Eugene to visit, shows he cares :)
    Also nice to see him and Roy part on good terms.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeliaP View Post
    Wait, Eugene abducted a deva?
    Yes Panel 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliaP View Post
    Wait, Eugene abducted a deva?

    I thought he just pretended to be one.....

    Going to check the back catalogue!

    Strip #292.

    Eugene tied up Tony the Celestial when Shojo's clerics attempted to summon advice. Eugene got stuck in the summoning circle in Azure City and was the "being of pure Law and Good" (snerk) who rendered judgment in the Order's show trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkku View Post
    I believe he intercepted the real deva and was summoned in its place.
    Ahh, yes, found the comic: Panel 4.

    Edit: 'scuse me while I remove all these ninja-knives I have sticking out of me.
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    Geez, what is it with that guy and needing to figure out all the fiddly little details?

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    That really doesn't seem fair to Julia. Then again, maybe she won't have to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblizz View Post
    Yes.

    And you are probably right, it's unlikely he can do that. But who knows, magic, am I right?
    Thanks!

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    Yes. to "Pawn something off on someone" (at least in the vernacular I always heard) means "Give this unpleasant thing/duty to someone" presumably because you don't want to have to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Zero View Post
    For the non english speaking people (like myself) "Pawn this visits off on Julia"="Go to visit Julia (instead of me)"?
    Yes. to "Pawn something off on someone" (at least in the vernacular I always heard) means "Give this unpleasant thing/duty to someone" presumably because you don't want to have to deal with it.
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    Pfft, Roy came fairly close to taking out that durkula by himself with his magic sword. And this time he has a party handy to back him up. Oh sure its likely the trio will kidnap everyones favorite wizard from the party at the worst possible time, but hey, that still leaves sneak attacks and stab happy mcgee to back him up. Oh yeah, and elan. :p
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    I'm just surprised that Tony the Celestial has pull with the Celestial leopards but I guess what Eugene did wasn't very greeeeat.

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    Hi, this is my first time posting but I've been reading oots for a while now, just wanted to say I love it! Despite Eugene's callous words I do feel quite sorry for him. He's been stuck in a small jail-plane for years now, and by the sound of it he's been upgraded to solitary. I'm not surprised he's irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
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    Undead are immune to sneak attacks, aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Undead are immune to sneak attacks, aren't they?

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    There's a few magical ways around it. Start of Darkness also mentioned a ring that granted the ability to sneak attack undead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    There's a few magical ways around it. Start of Darkness also mentioned a ring that granted the ability to sneak attack undead.
    I suppose one of Haley's Schrodinger's Wands might give her the ability to sneak attack undead, then.

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