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2007-07-12, 07:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Unusual TWF
The swashbuckler in my game is going for TWF. She wields a rapier in one hand and a light mace in the other.
Something about this just cracks me up - the idea of a rapier-twirling gentleman (the general character concept) feinting, parrying, doing all these flashy fencing maneuvers, and then BAM! he socks you with a mace.
Any other unusual TWF combinations? Monkey grip cheese, etc. welcome.Love the Third Amendment?
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2007-07-12, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-12, 07:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Tee hee, I can just picture this guy in the typical fencing pose; one hand behind back (secretly holding the mace there), parrying etc. Then, just as he disarms his foe or gets his guard down somehow, the mace comes out to crack him round the head...lol...come to think of it, that should be a Weapon Style Feat (ala Complete Warrior); if you trip or disarm a foe when using the rapier, you get a free attack with the mace for which your foe is treated as flat-footed.
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2007-07-12, 08:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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I have a character who Dual Weilds whips, dunno if thats unusual, but it is awsome
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2007-07-12, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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I had a 2nd ed Ranger duel weld a short spear and a hand ax.
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2007-07-12, 08:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-12, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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The cohort of a high-level character weilded a sword of the planes in one hand and a holy light mace in the other. Combined with Favored Enemy (Outsider (evil)) and 9 or so levels of cleric, she was a pretty effective demon-hunter.
Luckily for me, the DM didn't quite realize this until after she started wailing on the final BBEG of the campaign.Last edited by adanedhel9; 2007-07-12 at 08:33 PM.
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2007-07-12, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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I had a monk w/ Monkey grip that duel wielded quarterstaves. (yeah, our DM was new to the game, why do you ask?)
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2007-07-12, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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TWF builds that involve wielding a melee weapon in one hand and a ranged weapon in another is something I've often considered playing (like a rapier in one hand and a hand-crossbow in the other)...not actuall ygot round to it yet though..
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2007-07-12, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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My old ranger/barbarian/whatever I think fits him best used to TWF with either longsword/light mace or morningstar/shortsword.
But my real favorite is I once drew up a gnome ranger who used a hook and a hammer, thought that was pretty unsual (I have seriously never even seen a gnome hooked hammer in game, ever, not in a weapon shop or on an NPC or used by any PC ever in my entire gaming life... ever... anywhere).Lantanese gnome avatar by the talented Honest Tiefling.
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2007-07-12, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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My last character OTWF'ed two bastard swords... May not have been the most optimal thing in the world, but heck if it wasn't FUN. Of course, he was a minotaur (see sig), so part of the fun of it was the fact that it was visually rather impressive. I miss playing him...
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2007-07-12, 10:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like TWFing identical light weapons for the mental image, and so I can finesse'em. Dont know how common that is.
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2007-07-12, 10:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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I had a ranger once who dual-wielded light maces. I thought it was pretty hilarious.
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2007-07-12, 10:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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That doesn't generally work out unless they're thrown weapons - while hand crossbows and light crossbows can be fired with one hand, they still take two to load. And they take a feat to load as a free action.
A fun build (and by "fun" I mean "tends to one-round anything susceptible") is the two-weapon fighting Rogue - that uses flasks of Acid, Alchemist's Fire, and UMD's high caster level wands of low-level spells (Druid's Produce Flame & Flame Blade, Sor/Wiz Chill Touch). Low attack bonus due to the two-weapon fighting, but all attacks are touch attacks, and thus don't have a hard target AC. Works both in melee and ranged.
It gets mildly pricy (you're looking at about 10, 15, or 20 gp per attack; less with Flame Blade), but works from level 3 on; you get Two-Weapon Fighting at 1st, Quickdraw at 3rd, Weapon Finess at 6th, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting at 9th, and Greater Two-Weapon Fighting at 15th (12th and 18th level feats open, as well as possible human bonus), but it gets pretty good pretty fast with the sneak attack on top; at 20th, you're looking at six attacks per round (seven, with haste) at about 11d6 touch attacks each - and you can still draw two shortswords if you run out of charges/flasks.Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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2007-07-12, 10:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dunno, but I read this, and got this mental image :
*Two guys fighting, one of whom is this swashbuckler. Swashbuckler fights with his mace hidden behind his back.*
Swashbuckler : "I have something to tell you." *Uses a fancy disarm, enemy's weapon goes flying*
Enemy : "Oh? What's that?"
Swashbuckler : "I.. am not left handed." *Socks enemy in the face with his mace*Last edited by Quietus; 2007-07-12 at 10:15 PM.
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2007-07-12, 10:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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When I did medieval reenactment fencing, I used to love fighting with two daggers. Then I was a quick little bugger, though. All you've gotta do is get the opponent's blade out of the way and run up really close, and you're practically impossible to parry.
Of course, anybody with any skill moved backwards quickly enough to deny me my glory, but I was 15. *Shrugs* What are ya gonna do?
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2007-07-12, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-07-12, 10:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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This reminds me of a KoDT quote:
"He had me in a Morganstern throatlock, but I countered with a reverse elbow slam to the Adam's apple."
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Anyway, what about somebody who duel-wielded a chainsaw and shotgun? Oh wait...Love the Third Amendment?
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2007-07-12, 11:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thats why you wield a longer blade on one hand, like a rapier or a longsword, and a dagger in your off hand. The dagger is quick and easy to parry with while the larger blade makes the attacks.
For a long time I played a rogue who used a whip dagger in one hand, and a hand axe in the other, it's sort of a variant on the ranged weapon/melee weapon thing.Last edited by TheOOB; 2007-07-12 at 11:15 PM.
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2007-07-12, 11:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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I had a character who wielded rapier and kukri, which is a bit odd in origin oanm style.
He was a horizon walker, so I wanted some very different weapons to reflect the eclectic influences.
IRL, I personally like sword and axe, to hook shields if we're going medieval style or rapier and buckler if we're looking more Renaissance fencing.
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2007-07-13, 01:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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I have a gestalt bard-fighter who used a warhammer and a sickle. And no, I was NOT thinking communism when I made her. Weird, huh?
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2007-07-13, 04:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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I apologise if I come across daft. I'm a bit like that. I also like a good argument, so please don't take offence if I'm somewhat...forthright.
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2007-07-13, 11:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Should go with Lightning Mace feat next time you try that. Anywhere from 0.05-infinity extra attacks per round is fun.
I've always pondered making like a Marilith with as many of the weapon-style feats from Complete Warrior as possible(sans Bear Fang, because any style that requires you to let other people have a chance to pick up your weapon blows big time).
For the record, those style feats were: Anvil of Thunder, Crescent Moon, Hammer's Edge, and High Sword Low Axe..Last edited by AtomicKitKat; 2007-07-13 at 11:39 AM.
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2007-07-13, 12:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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I got a reserve PC I played once that goes into the very unusual Five-WF.
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I made a Half-Giant who dual weilded Bastard Swords. And used Monkey Grip. Those were some big swords, though the off-hand one had to be normal size (large, in this case)
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