Unusual TWF

[kjones]

The swashbuckler in my game is going for TWF. She wields a rapier in one hand and a light mace in the other.

Something about this just cracks me up - the idea of a rapier-twirling gentleman (the general character concept) feinting, parrying, doing all these flashy fencing maneuvers, and then BAM! he socks you with a mace.

Any other unusual TWF combinations? Monkey grip cheese, etc. welcome.

[psychoticbarber]

the idea of a rapier-twirling gentleman (the general character concept) feinting, parrying, doing all these flashy fencing maneuvers, and then BAM! he socks you with a mace.

I don't really have anything that's been used in a game of mine, but what I quoted really reminds of the three stooges. "Watch the birdie rapier..." *WHAM!*

[JellyPooga]

Something about this just cracks me up - the idea of a rapier-twirling gentleman (the general character concept) feinting, parrying, doing all these flashy fencing maneuvers, and then BAM! he socks you with a mace.

Tee hee, I can just picture this guy in the typical fencing pose; one hand behind back (secretly holding the mace there), parrying etc. Then, just as he disarms his foe or gets his guard down somehow, the mace comes out to crack him round the head...lol...come to think of it, that should be a Weapon Style Feat (ala Complete Warrior); if you trip or disarm a foe when using the rapier, you get a free attack with the mace for which your foe is treated as flat-footed.

[BRC]

I have a character who Dual Weilds whips, dunno if thats unusual, but it is awsome

[tetsubo]

I had a 2nd ed Ranger duel weld a short spear and a hand ax.

[Quietus]

I have a character who Dual Weilds whips, dunno if thats unusual, but it is awsome

That it is... I've drawn up a couple different characters who used that style, but never actually got to play them. How well does he/she work?

[adanedhel9]

The cohort of a high-level character weilded a sword of the planes in one hand and a holy light mace in the other. Combined with Favored Enemy (Outsider (evil)) and 9 or so levels of cleric, she was a pretty effective demon-hunter.

Luckily for me, the DM didn't quite realize this until after she started wailing on the final BBEG of the campaign.

[PhallicWarrior]

I had a monk w/ Monkey grip that duel wielded quarterstaves. (yeah, our DM was new to the game, why do you ask?)

[JellyPooga]

TWF builds that involve wielding a melee weapon in one hand and a ranged weapon in another is something I've often considered playing (like a rapier in one hand and a hand-crossbow in the other)...not actuall ygot round to it yet though..

[Human Paragon 3]

TWF builds that involve wielding a melee weapon in one hand and a ranged weapon in another is something I've often considered playing (like a rapier in one hand and a hand-crossbow in the other)...not actuall ygot round to it yet though..

How about a TWF rogue with a rapier in one hand and a wand in the other?

[Dementrius]

How about a TWF rogue with a rapier in one hand and a wand in the other?

Or dual wand weilder rogue with a wand of grease and a wand of ray of frost --> ranged sneak attack every round*.

*for enemies without 5 ranks in Balance or immunity to sneak attack

[Townopolis]

My old ranger/barbarian/whatever I think fits him best used to TWF with either longsword/light mace or morningstar/shortsword.

But my real favorite is I once drew up a gnome ranger who used a hook and a hammer, thought that was pretty unsual (I have seriously never even seen a gnome hooked hammer in game, ever, not in a weapon shop or on an NPC or used by any PC ever in my entire gaming life... ever... anywhere).

[Jannex]

My last character OTWF'ed two bastard swords... May not have been the most optimal thing in the world, but heck if it wasn't FUN. Of course, he was a minotaur (see sig), so part of the fun of it was the fact that it was visually rather impressive. I miss playing him...

[Diggorian]

I like TWFing identical light weapons for the mental image, and so I can finesse'em. Dont know how common that is.

[dr.cello]

I had a ranger once who dual-wielded light maces. I thought it was pretty hilarious.

[Jack_Simth]

TWF builds that involve wielding a melee weapon in one hand and a ranged weapon in another is something I've often considered playing (like a rapier in one hand and a hand-crossbow in the other)...not actuall ygot round to it yet though..

That doesn't generally work out unless they're thrown weapons - while hand crossbows and light crossbows can be fired with one hand, they still take two to load. And they take a feat to load as a free action.

A fun build (and by "fun" I mean "tends to one-round anything susceptible") is the two-weapon fighting Rogue - that uses flasks of Acid, Alchemist's Fire, and UMD's high caster level wands of low-level spells (Druid's Produce Flame & Flame Blade, Sor/Wiz Chill Touch). Low attack bonus due to the two-weapon fighting, but all attacks are touch attacks, and thus don't have a hard target AC. Works both in melee and ranged.

It gets mildly pricy (you're looking at about 10, 15, or 20 gp per attack; less with Flame Blade), but works from level 3 on; you get Two-Weapon Fighting at 1st, Quickdraw at 3rd, Weapon Finess at 6th, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting at 9th, and Greater Two-Weapon Fighting at 15th (12th and 18th level feats open, as well as possible human bonus), but it gets pretty good pretty fast with the sneak attack on top; at 20th, you're looking at six attacks per round (seven, with haste) at about 11d6 touch attacks each - and you can still draw two shortswords if you run out of charges/flasks.

[Quietus]

The swashbuckler in my game is going for TWF. She wields a rapier in one hand and a light mace in the other.

Something about this just cracks me up - the idea of a rapier-twirling gentleman (the general character concept) feinting, parrying, doing all these flashy fencing maneuvers, and then BAM! he socks you with a mace.

Any other unusual TWF combinations? Monkey grip cheese, etc. welcome.

Dunno, but I read this, and got this mental image :

*Two guys fighting, one of whom is this swashbuckler. Swashbuckler fights with his mace hidden behind his back.*
Swashbuckler : "I have something to tell you." *Uses a fancy disarm, enemy's weapon goes flying*
Enemy : "Oh? What's that?"
Swashbuckler : "I.. am not left handed." *Socks enemy in the face with his mace*

[psychoticbarber]

I like TWFing identical light weapons for the mental image, and so I can finesse'em. Dont know how common that is.

When I did medieval reenactment fencing, I used to love fighting with two daggers. Then I was a quick little bugger, though. All you've gotta do is get the opponent's blade out of the way and run up really close, and you're practically impossible to parry.

Of course, anybody with any skill moved backwards quickly enough to deny me my glory, but I was 15. *Shrugs* What are ya gonna do?

[Diggorian]

Of course, anybody with any skill moved backwards quickly enough to deny me my glory, but I was 15. *Shrugs* What are ya gonna do?

Throw a dagger at'em and quickdraw another as you close? Had a halfling ranger that did that with Throw Anytthing and Quickdraw.

[kjones]

Throw a dagger at'em and quickdraw another as you close? Had a halfling ranger that did that with Throw Anytthing and Quickdraw.

This reminds me of a KoDT quote:

"He had me in a Morganstern throatlock, but I countered with a reverse elbow slam to the Adam's apple."
"Dude, you should have gone with a rabbit punch to the kidneys. +2 to yer next to-hit."
"What? This wasn't in game, this was real life!"

Anyway, what about somebody who duel-wielded a chainsaw and shotgun? Oh wait...

[TheOOB]

When I did medieval reenactment fencing, I used to love fighting with two daggers. Then I was a quick little bugger, though. All you've gotta do is get the opponent's blade out of the way and run up really close, and you're practically impossible to parry.

Of course, anybody with any skill moved backwards quickly enough to deny me my glory, but I was 15. *Shrugs* What are ya gonna do?

Thats why you wield a longer blade on one hand, like a rapier or a longsword, and a dagger in your off hand. The dagger is quick and easy to parry with while the larger blade makes the attacks.

For a long time I played a rogue who used a whip dagger in one hand, and a hand axe in the other, it's sort of a variant on the ranged weapon/melee weapon thing.

[Mike_G]

I had a character who wielded rapier and kukri, which is a bit odd in origin oanm style.

He was a horizon walker, so I wanted some very different weapons to reflect the eclectic influences.

IRL, I personally like sword and axe, to hook shields if we're going medieval style or rapier and buckler if we're looking more Renaissance fencing.

[The Unlucky One]

TWF builds that involve wielding a melee weapon in one hand and a ranged weapon in another is something I've often considered playing (like a rapier in one hand and a hand-crossbow in the other)...not actuall ygot round to it yet though..

See Drow of the Underdark for the feat Versatile combatant. Very useful

[EndgamerAzari]

I have a gestalt bard-fighter who used a warhammer and a sickle. And no, I was NOT thinking communism when I made her. Weird, huh?

[ChrisMcDee]

Or dual wand weilder rogue with a wand of grease and a wand of ray of frost --> ranged sneak attack every round*.

*for enemies without 5 ranks in Balance or immunity to sneak attack

Heh, that just reminds me of this.

[JellyPooga]

That doesn't generally work out unless they're thrown weapons - while hand crossbows and light crossbows can be fired with one hand, they still take two to load. And they take a feat to load as a free action.

Not if you have the Ghostly Reload spell available...

[AtomicKitKat]

I had a ranger once who dual-wielded light maces. I thought it was pretty hilarious.

Should go with Lightning Mace feat next time you try that. Anywhere from 0.05-infinity extra attacks per round is fun.

I've always pondered making like a Marilith with as many of the weapon-style feats from Complete Warrior as possible(sans Bear Fang, because any style that requires you to let other people have a chance to pick up your weapon blows big time).

For the record, those style feats were: Anvil of Thunder, Crescent Moon, Hammer's Edge, and High Sword Low Axe..

[Diggorian]

I got a reserve PC I played once that goes into the very unusual Five-WF.

Thri-kreen ranger + weapon finesse + improved natural attack + double bladed gythka + poisonous bite + ???? = lots of blood ... dinner ... and profit

[JackMage666]

I made a Half-Giant who dual weilded Bastard Swords. And used Monkey Grip. Those were some big swords, though the off-hand one had to be normal size (large, in this case)

[Missing Shoe]

I had a monk w/ Monkey grip that duel wielded quarterstaves. (yeah, our DM was new to the game, why do you ask?)

Sounds like your new to the game.

Monkey grip, never a good choice.