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Knight of the Chase PrC (Dragon #297):
Nemoud's Brethren: At 3rd level, the knight gains the services of a specially selected hound. This hound is similar to a war dog, however it also gains abilities in a comparable fashion to a wizard's familiar (see The War Dog Special Abilities chart in this article and page 51 of the Player's Handbook). Nemoud's Brethren, however, do not grant their master any special powers (such as the toad's +2 Constitution bonus) in the way that familiars do. If the dog is slain, the knight gains no replacement until he has gained an additional level as a knight.
Cultist of the Shattered Peak PrC (Lost Empires of Faerūn) is suffering from severe case of fluff-crunch disconnection:"The pride of wizards and arcanists nearly doomed Faerūn once. Never again."
Khemal Serist, Cultist of the Shattered Peak
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Most of the tales about secret Netherese cults depict their members as power-mad wizards bent on raising the Empire of Magic once again, or exploiting its secrets for personal gain. But the Cult of the Shattered Peak bears no resemblance to the cults in these stories, since its membership includes not a single arcane spellcaster.Becoming a Cultist of the Shattered Peak
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The cult's sometimes ruthless tactics make paladins rare in its ranks, and arcane spellcasters are simply not permitted.Entry Requirements
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Special: You may not have any levels in an arcane spellcasting class.Class Features
As a cultist of the Shattered Peak, you are focused on preventing arcane spellcasters from rediscovering the old ways of Netheril. Because that goal sometimes places you in direct conflict with arcane spellcasters, cult training grants you a number of abilities aimed at ensuring victory against such foes.
Drum roll...Spellcasting: You have the ability to cast a small number of arcane spells.
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You can't give up on curing someone who suffers from lycanthropy:
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A lycanthrope could use this to lock down a cleric for an extended period of time by deliberately failing their save.
They meant to say that the process may be repeated, to clarify that it isn't a try-once-or-suffer-forever type deal.
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I hope this hasn't been mentioned already. I posted this in another thread, but it belongs here too.
The spell Awaken Undead (SpC, pg. 21) seems to grant the caster a measure of control over the awakened targets, even if the caster didn't previously have any control over them. The spell explicitly says that the awakened undead "don armor and take up weapons while obeying your commands," and there's nothing saying that the undead had to previously be ready to obey your commands.
This is amusing if used against undead that are under someone else's direct control (this wouldn't necessarily break that control, of course, but you could still definitely interfere with the original master's plans), and it's somewhat abusive if used to gain control over uncontrolled undead that you normally wouldn't have the capacity to control (because of your Animate Dead limit, your rebuke-based control limit, or whatever). And of course, Awaken Undead is instantaneous, so the willingness to obey your commands doesn't go away.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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The Aspect of Pale Night has the following ability:
Truth Beneath the Veil (Su) Like Pale Night herself,
the true form of an aspect of Pale Night is one of
such unimaginable horror that reality itself
refuses to accept it. Thus, the aspect of Pale Night
does not have a form of madness like other
obyriths. Her true form is hidden by her shroud.
Anyone who attempts to part the shroud to get a
better look at the aspect must make a DC 20
Fortitude save. Success indicates that the creatures
mind simply fails to process what it sees
before a new shroud automatically wraps around
the aspects incorporeal body. Failure indicates
that for a brief moment, the character views the
truth and is immediately rendered comatose and
stricken with total amnesia. Even if the coma and
amnesia effects are dispelled, the character
cannot remember what he or she saw under the
shroud. The save DC is Charisma-based.Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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The Shrieker Fungus and Formian Queen are both creatures with DEX - a very rare thing indeed (they also are the only corporeal creatures with STR -). As we see in the rules for nonabilities, a creature with a nonability in Dex uses its intelligence modifier for initiative checks. In both cases they failed to take this into account, and both monsters have a -5 to init, which is not the modifier for a nonability (+0) but the modifier for a 0 ability.
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Arcane Mark is a spell (from the PHB no less) with a range of 0 feet. This breaks something I'm sure.
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That means the square you are currently occupying.
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The Aoa Droplet can reflect gaze attacks back to their source:
In addition, aoa are immune to gaze attacks, and such an effect is reflected back to its origin.Creator of the LA-assignment thread.
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Arcane spellcasters can only use scrolls containing arcane spells, and divine spellcasters can only use scrolls containing divine spells.
Therefore, Theurges can only use a scroll if it contains both an arcane spell and a divine spell, which in practice is very rare. UMD doesn't help, either; it doesn't have a clause to emulate not having a class feature.
I think this applies to both 3.5 and Pathfinder.Last edited by Bucky; 2017-03-15 at 10:21 AM.
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Voluntarily Giving up a Saving Throw: A creature can voluntarily forego a saving throw and willingly accept a spells result. Even a character with a special resistance to magic (for example, an elf's resistance to sleep effects) can suppress this quality.
"Resistance" and "immunity" are two very different things in-RAW
I suspecting we have there a copypasta error, and RAI is something like "(for example, an elf's resistance to charm effects)"
This one line lead to school of thought which says you can, for example, poison a Golem by commanding it to "suppress it's immunity to poisons" - despite Golem is immune to them because of complete lack of internal anatomy necessary to be poisoned
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Fiend Folio is 3.0, so there may have been a change in the 3.0 -> 3.5 update that gave blanket immunity to all self-gazing stuff. Certainly the 3.5 rules where all images in mirrors negate gaze attacks and all creatures are immune to themselves breach all the gaze attack traditions in story and previous editions.
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This came up in my game and I wanted to throw it out there for the playground.
Originally Posted by Protection from Evil
the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.
So any attempt at mental control is blocked... Which is a lot.
Will
These saves reflect your resistance to mental influence as well as many magical effects.
Do words count? If someone tries to change your mind through whichever social skill, is the attempt blocked? If someone shows you a picture, which usually triggers some mental response, does that get blocked as well?A wise monk trains both mind and body, but a smart monk is actually a swordsage.
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Influence and control are two very different things. If I greet someone and offer to shake his hand because I'm holding a shock buzzer, I'm trying to influence his behaviour by attempting to trick him. However, I'm in no way exerting mental control on him, so if he spots the buzzer he's free to refuse my offer. He's in no way compelled to do what I say.
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Are they that different?
Originally Posted by CompelOriginally Posted by Control
So for the duration of PfE, the rules of society are suppressed!
Even ignoring that, Glitterdust being a mind attack that influences you means that it is blocked by PfE, and I don't think that's quite right.A wise monk trains both mind and body, but a smart monk is actually a swordsage.
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It's a silly thought, but I think we're in another 'specific interpretation' situation.
The kind of control that PtE is magic that keeps one from saying no. Charms, possession, and domination exert control by preventing refusals. If a demon were to flatter or threaten me into getting it across a magic circle, I can still accept or refuse, even if doing so may be detrimental to me. The point is that PrE keeps me from being an idiot off of my own terms.
But to roll with the broader interpretation, if a demon were to harass me in a way that would trigger an unconscious response, maybe magic circle would provide a blur and bleep to censor them.