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    It is a world ruled by Mad Science! Things happen. Usually, they happen to other people. This is entertainment. That's when the front door gets blown in- And you belatedly realize that, once again, you are doomed to be the entertainment in another exciting installment of: GIRL GENIUS!

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    A compilation (and much easier to read if you're just catching up) of the first three chapters can be found here at the GG website.
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    Uh, oh, cancel the dancing nuns, too. Everyone's about to get wasped.

    Or not. Because, Agatha. And the Master of Paris. And Tarvek. And maybe a few other people.

    But, this is not looking really good.

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    First: Who is Collette's father again? He's coming, and she knows that's wrong -- so is he already wasped?

    Second: "Turn on your lanterns, and breath deeply". ... If these are slave engine lanterns, that would wasp the existing people -- not the target people. Perhaps it is "this device activates after a short period of time, so that the person handling it can safely prepare"? And, what if it's some sort of gas instead of a wasp?

    Third: What's on the right side of this double page spread?
    Where's the finely hand-crafted link?
    Not "fire at". I never used the word "at"
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    Quote Originally Posted by keybounce View Post
    First: Who is Collette's father again? He's coming, and she knows that's wrong -- so is he already wasped?
    The Master of Paris, who never ever attends parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by keybounce View Post
    Second: "Turn on your lanterns, and breath deeply". ... If these are slave engine lanterns, that would wasp the existing people -- not the target people. Perhaps it is "this device activates after a short period of time, so that the person handling it can safely prepare"? And, what if it's some sort of gas instead of a wasp?
    I'm guessing it's some kind of mass-attack and the lanterns protect them from whatever-it-is. I'd guess gas, yes, and it's going to turn out that Tarvek is wearing that Plague Doctor costume and won't be affected.

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    <bleep>, double spread page! We're not going to find out who the QotN is until Monday! If then!

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    I will wager 2,000 quatloos that the person about to enter the room is *not* the Queen of the Dawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I will wager 2,000 quatloos that the person about to enter the room is *not* the Queen of the Dawn.
    So.. someone pretending to be her? A minion of hers? Because that's her symbol plastered all over the airship and personnel.

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    I think the Master is coming because he realizes this will be the epicenter of the attack. My bet is the lanterns are about to release a swarm of the Other's mind-control wasps, and they want everyone to breathe them in. But, we'll see.

    And, in the midst of this, we're about to have three storm kings, two royal houses, and a Heterodyne in a pear tree.

    (sorry, had to say it)

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    Suddenly I'm wondering when Krosp is going to reappear with all those bears. They do seem to be about the only element missing from this situation.

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    What we really need is Othar to yell:

    SO! ALL THE VIPERS ARE IN RESIDENCE!!!

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    Shouldn't Othar be traveling with Gil? If he isn't, he has his own reason to head to Paris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    Shouldn't Othar be traveling with Gil? If he isn't, he has his own reason to head to Paris.
    I would assume Othar is either under the strongest lock and key imprisonment Gil can devise; or, having already escaped that, is wandering around free and going to show up where his presence will cause the most chaos.

    (Does he even remember Oslaka anymore?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I will wager 2,000 quatloos that the person about to enter the room is *not* the Queen of the Dawn.
    I'll take that. I would be surprised if the Queen of the Dawn isn't Zola or Lucrezia and the egos of both of them would make them want to be there. Assuming the people are about to be wasped and the wasps still don't work on sparks, someone will need to give the people orders using Lucrezia's voice to take out any sparks there, otherwise any sparks there (including Martellus) would have a chance to get away or respond somehow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellen View Post
    I think the Master is coming because he realizes this will be the epicenter of the attack. My bet is the lanterns are about to release a swarm of the Other's mind-control wasps, and they want everyone to breathe them in. But, we'll see.
    I would break it down into two reasons. 1) Andronicus is heading there. 2) Since Andronicus is heading there and so many important people will be there, it may be the epicenter of the attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    What we really need is Othar to yell:

    SO! ALL THE VIPERS ARE IN RESIDENCE!!!
    Yes, although Othar wouldn't realize it's a masquerade ball, so he'd go after the guests and ignore the Queen of the Dawn and her presumably wasped nuns. But it would be fun to watch him chase the guy dressed as Sam Starfall.

    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    I would assume Othar is either under the strongest lock and key imprisonment Gil can devise; or, having already escaped that, is wandering around free and going to show up where his presence will cause the most chaos.

    (Does he even remember Oslaka anymore?)
    This is the last we saw of Othar. He might be leading an army for all we know. In this case, Gil was so upset at the Library that he might not have done anything about Othar.

    No, Othar probably doesn't remember Oslaka. That was completely noncanonical. I think that at most Othar might think he remembers a weird dream featuring her.
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    So... yeah, that's Zola, isn't it. Can't quite see her face, but with blonde hair who else would it be?

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    Yeah, taunt us with the mystery of who the queen is. Then, when you do the big reveal, make sure we can't recognize her under her costume. No, we're not dying of curiosity here. Why would you think that?

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    On an unrelated note, I was rereading the early chapters. When the Baron runs into Punch and Judy he realizes they were hiding from him, which doesn't make any sense to Klaus. Judy tells him "Barry came back."

    At first, I thought that meant they were acting under orders from Barry (given before Klaus' return) to keep Agatha hidden. On rereading it, it sounded more like "You didn't think Barry would come back, but he did and told us everything.

    At this point, I'm wondering if Barry got into a possible future, an alternate reality, or Skifander on a bad day and has got some wrong ideas about Klaus. After all, if he got into a future where wasped Klaus was claiming to have been an Evil Overlord all along (or something like that), he'd come back thinking he'd learned Klaus couldn't be trusted.

    This seems to tie into Klaus' own mistake about Agatha. He'd learned enough to suspect Lucy was the Other. But, based on things like Bang's report on future-Agatha, he was making a lot of wrong conclusions about present-Agatha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateral View Post
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    So... yeah, that's Zola, isn't it. Can't quite see her face, but with blonde hair who else would it be?
    Clankrezia with a wig & a skin job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellen View Post
    On an unrelated note, I was rereading the early chapters. When the Baron runs into Punch and Judy he realizes they were hiding from him, which doesn't make any sense to Klaus. Judy tells him "Barry came back."

    At first, I thought that meant they were acting under orders from Barry (given before Klaus' return) to keep Agatha hidden. On rereading it, it sounded more like "You didn't think Barry would come back, but he did and told us everything.

    At this point, I'm wondering if Barry got into a possible future, an alternate reality, or Skifander on a bad day and has got some wrong ideas about Klaus. After all, if he got into a future where wasped Klaus was claiming to have been an Evil Overlord all along (or something like that), he'd come back thinking he'd learned Klaus couldn't be trusted.
    For what it's worth, the GG print novelization expands this scene, and explicitly states that for some as-yet unknown reason Barry believed that Klaus was working for the Other, which is why he hid himself and Agatha.

    And yes, I agree the QotD looks like Zola.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoduck View Post
    For what it's worth, the GG print novelization expands this scene, and explicitly states that for some as-yet unknown reason Barry believed that Klaus was working for the Other, which is why he hid himself and Agatha.
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    Wait a moment... currently, Klaus is working for the Other... sort of... and there's all that time travel....

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    Oh, <BLEEP>!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geoduck View Post
    And yes, I agree the QotD looks like Zola.
    Same stance with arms spread as in her arrival in Mechanicsburg.
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    I think this is a mistake:
    Monday's and Wednesday's pages are two halves of what will be a double-page spread in the published book.
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    So Barry's been time travelling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Cross View Post
    So Barry's been time travelling?
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    They keep talking about people coming back -- could very well be talking about a time rather than a place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurkyl View Post
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    They keep talking about people coming back -- could very well be talking about a time rather than a place!
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    My (mostly baseless) suspicion is that they're coming back from Mars. I.e. Skifander is on Mars, where Lucrezia sent Klaus, which also has some connection to the Other, and where Bill and Barry battled. And perhaps where Bill is still trapped? Not to deny that there's also time travel, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runeghost View Post
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    My (mostly baseless) suspicion is that they're coming back from Mars. I.e. Skifander is on Mars, where Lucrezia sent Klaus, which also has some connection to the Other, and where Bill and Barry battled. And perhaps where Bill is still trapped? Not to deny that there's also time travel, of course.
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    I agree with the Skifander=Mars theory, though I predict that Barry and Bill went to the Geister home"land", which will turn out to be on the Moon. I mostly say this because of the Geisters' general color scheme. I also wouldn't be surprised if Skifander and the Geister are both offshoots of some ancient/long-forgotten matriarchal project to colonize the solar system using portals instead of spaceships.

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    Who is the Queen of the Dawn?

    By that I mean, who is the REAL QotD. Who is she supposed to be? I don't remember.

    Is there an index where all of the players and places and politics are listed so we can look up this stuff?
    If not, could we make one?

    Anyway, I think this is Zola, who either got wasped or just voluntarily made a dirty deal with someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kislath View Post
    Is there an index where all of the players and places and politics are listed so we can look up this stuff?
    If not, could we make one?
    There is a wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kislath View Post
    Who is the Queen of the Dawn?

    By that I mean, who is the REAL QotD. Who is she supposed to be? I don't remember.

    Is there an index where all of the players and places and politics are listed so we can look up this stuff?
    If not, could we make one?

    Anyway, I think this is Zola, who either got wasped or just voluntarily made a dirty deal with someone.
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