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2020-07-01, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
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2020-07-01, 12:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Cthulhu plushie ! Mono whips in the tentacles !
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2020-07-01, 03:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
The possibilities are endless!
EDIT: I was actually thinking of making it a smaller, cutesy version of an Ares Cheetah!Last edited by BisectedBrioche; 2020-07-01 at 04:21 PM.
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2020-07-07, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Also, I've had the idea that my character hides her surveillance drone in a charm for her
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Does anyone know if 5e has any special rules for hidden bags/compartments that aren't cyberware?Hi, I'm back, I guess. ^_^I cosplay and stream LPs of single player games on Twitch! Mon, Wed & Fri; currently playing: Nier: Replicant (Mon/Wed) and The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (Thurs or Fri)
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2020-08-10, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Regarding the drug "Slab" (Chrome Flesh, page 184):
Is there any roll to resist, or are you just straight up knocked out after 2 turns? Also, it has a listed "Power" rating, which no other drug seems to have, and I'm not sure what that means. Finally, is there an antidote that works on the stuff?Avatar by araveugnitsuga.
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2020-08-10, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
'Power' is a property of toxins, as described on page 408 of the phb. It sets the amount of successes you need on your toxin resistance test to fully resist it. Given that this drug has a power rating, resisting it is probably treated the same as for any other toxin.
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2020-08-10, 01:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-12, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
I've recently finished the second session of a cyberpunk campaign set loosely in the same vein as Shadowrun. The first session was a mission to rescue a young girl from an abusive father and unite her with her grandmother. Quite successful (and I learned that the Runners hate teal-colored bathrooms).
In the second session, the team looked into the murder of that little girl's mother on their downtime and found out that she was a disgruntled scientist working on a new bioware project. Planned to hire a team to steal her own research while she got out of the company. Well it didn't work out, but the players were too curious not to check this lab out.
I'm rather proud of myself; the players are genuinely worried and scared of the secret lab they are now exploring. Everyone is dead and they're piecing together the last few days from recorded audio logs in various computers. The mystery is turning into a "Color out of Space" moment.
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2020-08-12, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Well, it's not cyberpunk until you get a vague sense of cosmic horror.
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2020-08-13, 12:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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SR5E: I'm a bit unclear on something - are Defense tests capped by Physical Limits for non-drone/vehicle targets? I know Soak tests aren't capped.
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2020-08-13, 02:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-13, 12:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
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2020-08-13, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
It might? If you assume a drone with a rigger jumped in functions like a piloted vehicle, then it doesn't, it uses the piloted vehicle rules. If instead you assume that a jumped in rigger is just spamming the 'control device' action then it would. The rules for riggers on page 266 do make a reference to 'vehicle actions' being separate from 'matrix actions'(which control device would be), so I assume that a jumped in in rigger would just count as directly controlling, which means they ignore the data processing limit for the 'control device' action.
A non-jumped in drone (which I'm assuming to mean any autonomous vehicle based on context) uses handling as the limit though (see page 205).
I'm afraid I couldn't find a more definitive answer in the time I spend searching. Unfortunately, this is not particularly unusual for 5th edition, or shadowrun in general in my experience.Jasnah avatar by Zea Mays
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2020-08-13, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
If they function like a piloted vehicle, wouldn't that mean Handling becomes the limit instead?
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2020-08-14, 01:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-14, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Where are the creation rules for a "Physical Magician" in 2e? In Awakenings all I can find is a paragraph or two of fluff
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2020-08-14, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
I'm not sure they ever did actually create rules for it in 2nd Ed. I think the first times rules came up were in 'Magic in the Shadows' (p22) for 3rd Edition
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2020-08-14, 03:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Cool. Thanks. I was actually surprised to even find the fluff for it in 2e. I had thought they were a 3e creation myself.
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2020-08-14, 03:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Question...how often do people actually get new gear in your games?
Thinking back to post-college games, I cannot remember ever getting anything substantially better for any of my characters, and some of those were in significantly long campaigns.
The longest one, a 2/3 game, my troll samurai got a new rifle custom built using the rules in the Cannon Companion, but that was it. I think I did burn through most of my cash on cash for karma, though.
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2020-08-14, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-08-16, 04:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Ok. One more 2e question for the week. LOL. Does the VCR come with the datajack needed to run it? I know it does in later editions but I couldn't find anything concrete on it in the books.
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2020-08-17, 09:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Pretty sure this is a "Yes, the VCR comes with a datajack."
In Rigger II, I think, they talk about needing a regular datajack if your rigger wants to play at decking. (They also say that your VCR interferes with Decking. Why? No plausible reason was given, so I think it's to prevent the Rigger from stepping on the Decker's toes. Totally unnecessary 'conflict' in my view.)Warhammer 40,000 Campaign Skirmish Game: Warpstrike
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2020-08-17, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
I think there was discussion that decking and rigging datajacks were installed differently. Standard/decking datajacks tended to be in the temple and deal more with the frontal cortex, while rigging datajacks were behind the ear and tapped more into the limbic BUT I also think this may have been fluff.
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*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
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2020-08-17, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Does anyone know how practical it is to make a rigger technomancer in 5e? I know there are rules for technomancers to have abilities similar to a control rig in Data Trails, but I can't find much else.
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2020-08-17, 03:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
The machine sprite thing can be really, really powerful (diagnostics for using the device to add a lot of extra dice for along period), but in my experience it works best when a technomancer and mundane rigger cooperate in my experience. I couldn't find the rules you refer to in data trails, but in my experience that book is a bit of a mess (its lack of a readable table of contents or an index is just the start of its sins). You'd definitely need to get a couple of submersions to take the 'mind over machine' echo (page 258 in the core rulebook), so it'd require a lot of karma to get online.
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2020-08-17, 04:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Hi, I'm back, I guess. ^_^I cosplay and stream LPs of single player games on Twitch! Mon, Wed & Fri; currently playing: Nier: Replicant (Mon/Wed) and The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (Thurs or Fri)
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2020-08-22, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Does anyone happen to have a copy of the DE-only Schattenhandbuch 2? I'm curious about the fluff details about the Gambler mentor spirit but I don't speak German.
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2020-08-22, 05:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
*Picard management tip: Debate honestly. The goal is to arrive at the truth, not at your preconception.
*Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
*The One Deck Engine: Gaming on a budget
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2020-09-07, 06:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
So, broad question, but: Is 6th edition really as bad as everyone says?
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2020-09-07, 08:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: General Shadowrun Questions III: Ya like that, Chummer?
Broad answer: Yes.
Somewhat more detailed answer: CGL did not achieve anything people desired from the new edition.
There is marginally less complexity, but you still routinely resolve things with three rolls per action, almost every action is preceded by "can I gain Edge from this?", and general capabilities of many archetypes that weren't mages were diminished in favour of making Edge actions (new type of action, sort of a movie stunt where everything goes as you planned and you do something impossible by normal rules) the way to actually win combat and stuff.Elezen Dark Knight avatar by Linklele
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