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    Default PHB2 Paladin variant

    I'm about to build a paladin and wondered if i should try the variant in PHB2 (the one without the mount, but with some smite-charge bonus instead).
    My problem is that i don't have access to the book right now and can't remember the exact rules. Can any of you help me?
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    Default Re: PHB2 Paladin variant

    Gist of it: You get to charge and smite without losing the smite if you fail. You also get some bonus damage.

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    You deal extra two points of damage per your paladin level when you charge smite, so if you charge smite, bonus damage you deal = yourPaladinLevel * 3. If you miss your smite attempt isn't considered used.

    This feature replaces special mount so you can take it at level 5.
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    Thanks

    Think i'll use this variant and make him a leap attacking orc paladin of freedom (maybe with a single barbarian level)
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    Water is composed of two gins. Oxygin which is pure gin, and Hydrogin which is water and gin.

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    Default Re: PHB2 Paladin variant

    Take orc paragon levels - woot! Then get a reach weapon and Headlong Rush! Yeah!
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    Don't forget about casting Rhino's Rush.
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    Why orc paragon levels? It doesn't seem that good...

    We're only lvl 6, by the way. And it's a one-shot adventure not a campaign.

    The DM told us that the party had to include at least one paladin.
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    Why orc paragon levels? It doesn't seem that good...
    Because it nets you rage, a lawful barb ain't possible (nor is a chaotic true paladin)
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    I thought the variant of paladin of freedom didn't have this alignment restriction?

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    Orc paragon doesn't give you rage, not in my book anyway.. Paladin of freedom is chaotic good and should work fine with a single barbarian level
    Water is composed of two gins. Oxygin which is pure gin, and Hydrogin which is water and gin.

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    FYI, the Special Mount is potentially the Paladin's most powerful class feature. With Leadership or Dragon Cohort, you can get a mount more powerful then you are. The PHBII variant is ok, but nothing phenomenal.

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    It's not RAW (rules as written), but this is my favorite paladin variant:

    http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=761045

    It fixes most everything that was handled poorly with the paladin base class, while at the same time keeping it fairly well balanced against other classes of the same level.

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    Perhaps Ikkitosen meant the Half-Orc paragon, which does indeed give rage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Person_Man View Post
    FYI, the Special Mount is potentially the Paladin's most powerful class feature. With Leadership or Dragon Cohort, you can get a mount more powerful then you are. The PHBII variant is ok, but nothing phenomenal.
    Like most class features it can be droped in favour of something else if that person likes - thats why there are variants, they add other avenues of choice to vary a character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giblina View Post
    It's not RAW (rules as written), but this is my favorite paladin variant:

    http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=761045

    It fixes most everything that was handled poorly with the paladin base class, while at the same time keeping it fairly well balanced against other classes of the same level.
    Mine too!

    The PH2 variant the OP mentioned is also integrated into that Paladin rebalance. It's one of the three 'styles' a paladin chooses, rather than being forced to get a special mount they may not want or need.

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    I did mean half-orc paragon, as I was referring to rage. My bad.

    Also, screw the PHBII variant - take, as your mount, a rhino. Awesome.

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