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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrasodium View Post
    Oh look, yet another deliberate partial quote being used to wildly change the original post by removing the context. As you saw when Asmotherion got jumped all over by the same peanut gallery trolling any discussion the last 19 pages, you are upset about the wrong thing in this thread... I'd start with misquote, argumentum ad absurdum, circular logic, & epic levels of false equivalency
    are you talking about the context when you made the lovely piss analogy, or just the context where you compared DM's to Eric Cartman?

    Your level of ridiculousness is astounding.

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    I'm going to completely ignore this whole argument here (Which so far seems to be mostly simulationist vs. gamist) and address the OP.

    Why do you need an AC of 16? For a caster, that isn't just decent, that's very good, especially without using spells. As far as I can tell, only clerics and bards can get to that point, but land druids are more like wizards.

    Wizard: AC of 10+dex, or 13+dex if you cast mage armor in the morning.
    Land druid: AC of 11+dex, or 13+dex from starting equipment, without or with a shield respectively. For studded leather add 1 to that.

    What this means is that if you have a shield and can get studded leather (or in this case, hide will also work), all you need for 16 AC is +2 to dexterity. If you have studded leather and +3 dex you can get AC 17 pretty quickly.

    In other words, the inability to wear metal armor is pretty relevant, especially since land druids, again, are back-row casters.

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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Why would you bring this back to life?

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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Because the OP presented the Land Druid AC as a problem. This person is pointing out that it isn't a problem

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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    Because the OP presented the Land Druid AC as a problem. This person is pointing out that it isn't a problem
    So... why bring that non-issue back?
    Trust but verify. There's usually a reason why I believe you can't do something.

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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Quote Originally Posted by bid View Post
    So... why bring that non-issue back?
    Because I forgot to check the date before posting.

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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Quote Originally Posted by bid View Post
    So... why bring that non-issue back?
    Yea but isn't there like a 30 or 40 day rule so like, it is still all fine and well?

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    Default Re: Land Druid and it's AC problems

    Multiclass into rouge and get insane movement options from cunning action, expertise in one of your skills and take it to level three and gain the shield spell from Arcaine trickster.

    I use shield as a reaction all the time. Add the resilient feat on your dex mode for the dex boost to AC and become proficient with dex saves.

    That's my build and it keeps me alive.

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    Metamagic Mod: but not even that build can keep this thread alive.
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