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The LA-assignment archive
As a result of the first post of the original thread hitting 50000 characters, I'll be moving some stuff here.
Please do not post in this thread. Comments on assigned LA's, thread form or other such things should go in the most recent LA-assignment thread.
Spoiler: ThreadsThe LA-assignment thread
The LA-assignment thread II: Where The Em Dash Doesn't Exist
The LA-assignment thread III: Now in HD!
The LA-assignment thread IV: Live Free or Hit Die Hard
The LA-assignment thread V: Escape from LA
The LA-assignment thread: Making monster PCs VI-able
The LA-assignment thread VII: LA LA Land
The LA-assignment thread VIII: Way Too Much For Vampirism
The LA-assignment thread IX: I have no mouth and I must S,V,M
Spoiler: ClarificationThe guideline for assigning LA is as follows: a monster is compared to the most similar class from tier 1 to 4 (so a nymph would be compared to a druid, a naztharune rakshasa to a rogue, and an ogre to a barbarian), and given an LA that makes it comparable to a PC of equal ECL (for example, a +1 LA centaur with a single barbarian level is considered to be about on par with a 6th-level orc barbarian, while a +0 LA centaur would be too strong).
Some monsters and templates may have a LA of '-0'. In such a case, I technically recommend a LA of +0, but the resulting monster will probably be weaker than a comparable PC of the same ECL. Consider asking your DM to strengthen the monster somehow to make it more appropriate as a PC. At lower optimization levels, creatures with this LA may be more balanced: use your own discretion.
Some monsters and templates may be marked with an asterisk. In such a case, the rated material has abilities that are not simply strong, but entirely game-breaking. Examples include an efreeti's ability to grant essentially unlimited free Wishes, or a nightmare's ability to use ridiculously powerful high-level spells at-will at a very low ECL.
In such a case, no LA is going to make these monsters truly balanced, with the resulting PCs being either one-trick ponies or overpowered abominations. Instead, they will be rated as if they didn't possess the offending ability, with the asterisk indicating the actual statblock cannot be rated properly. Anyone wanting to play these creatures is advised to simply do away with the ability in question.
Regarding item slots: we are operating under the assumption that monsters with unconventional body shapes may lack one or more item slots, as suggested by MIC page 219. Amorphous creatures do not have body slots at all, while headless/armless/legless/etc beings lack the slots associated with the limbs they don't have. The only exceptions to this are creatures that are specifically stated to have different slots, like some of the beings in Lords of Madness.
Spoiler: IndexSpoiler: Monster Manuals
Spoiler: OtherExpanded Psionic's Handbook
Creatures and templates
Heroes of Horror
Creatures and templates
Fiend Folio
Creatures and templates
Tome of Battle:
Creatures and templates
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Spoiler: Creatures (1)Last edited by Inevitability; 2019-11-01 at 05:20 AM.
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Monster Manual (2)
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Spoiler: AnimalsMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Ape +1 5 Baboon +0 1 Badger +1 2 Bat +0 1 Bear, Black +0 3 Bear, Brown -0 6 Bear, Polar -0 6 Bison -0 5 Boar -0 3 Camel +0 3 Cat +0 1 Cheetah +0 3 Crocodile +0 3 Crocodile, Giant -0 7 Dog +0 1 Dog, Riding -0 2 Donkey -0 2 Eagle +0 1 Elephant -0 11 Hawk +0 1 Horse, Heavy -0 3 Horse, Light -0 3 Horse, Heavy Warhorse -0 4 Horse, Light Warhorse -0 3 Hyena -0 2 Leopard +0 3 Lion +0 5 Lizard -0 1 Lizard, Monitor -0 3 Manta Ray -0 4 Monkey +0 1 Mule -0 3 Octopus +0 2 Octopus, Giant -0 8 Owl +0 1 Pony -0 2 Pony, War -0 2 Porpoise -0 2 Rat +0 1 Raven +0 1 Rhinoceros -0 8 Shark, Medium -0 3 Shark, Large -0 7 Shark, Huge -0 10 Snake, Constrictor -0 3 Snake, Giant Constrictor -0 11 Snake, Tiny Viper +0 1 Snake, Small Viper +0 1 Snake, Medium Viper -0 2 Snake, Large Viper -0 3 Snake, Huge Viper -0 6 Squid -0 3 Squid, Giant -0 12 Tiger +0 6 Toad -0 1 Weasel -0 1 Whale, Baleen -0 12 Whale, Chachacha -0 12 Whale, Orca -0 9 Wolf -0 2 Wolverine +0 3
Spoiler: VerminMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Giant Ant, Worker -0 2 Giant Ant, Soldier -0 2 Giant Ant, Queen -0 4 Giant Bee -0 3 Giant Bombardier Beetle -0 2 Giant Fire Beetle -0 1 Giant Stag Beetle -0 7 Giant Praying Mantis -0 4 Giant Wasp -0 5 Monstrous Centipedes -0 1-24 Monstrous Scorpion (Tiny and Small) +0 1 Monstrous Scorpion (Medium and larger) -0 2-40 Monstrous Spider (Tiny and Small) +0 1 Monstrous Spider (Medium and larger) -0 2-32 Last edited by Inevitability; 2019-10-23 at 04:18 PM.
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2017-03-24, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Monster Manual (3)
Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate name Estimated LA Celestial +1 Fiendish +1 Ghost +3/+4 Half-Celestial +3 Half-Dragon +2 Half-Fiend +3 Lich +2 Lycanthrope +1 Skeleton +1/+0/-0 Vampire +3* Zombie -0 Last edited by Inevitability; 2018-03-14 at 02:00 PM.
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2018-01-16, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Tome of Battle
Spoiler: CreaturesMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Naityan Rakshasa +0 9 Reth Dekala +1 6 Valkyrie +2 12 Last edited by Inevitability; 2018-02-15 at 05:09 PM.
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2018-02-20, 06:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Heroes of Horror
Spoiler: CreaturesMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Bane Wraith +0* 8 Bloodrot -0* 10 Bog Imp +0 4 Boneleaf -0* 7 Corruption Eater -0 15 Small Taint Elemental +0 2 Medium Taint Elemental +0 4 Large Taint Elemental -0 8 Huge Taint Elemental -0 16 Greater Taint Elemental -0 21 Elder Taint Elemental -0 24 Least Dusk Giant -0* 6 Lesser Dusk Giant -0* 12 Greater Dusk Giant -0* 18 Golem, Cadaver +0 10 Gray Jester +0 8 Phantasmal Slayer -0 16
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2018-04-17, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Monster Manual III
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Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate name Estimated LA Living Spell Indeterminate Spellwarped +2 Topiary Guardian -0 Voidmind +2* Woodling +1 Last edited by Inevitability; 2019-05-02 at 01:11 PM.
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Expanded Psionics Handbook
Spoiler: CreaturesMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Aboleth, Psionic +1 9 Astral Construct, 1st-level +1 2 Astral Construct, 2nd-level +0 2 Astral Construct, other -0 3-19 Blue +0 1 Brain Mole -0 1 Caller in Darkness -0 11 Cerebrilith +1 10 Couatl, Psionic +3 12 Crysmal -0 6 Dromite +0 1 Duergar, Psionic +1 2 Elan +0 1 Fogulub -0 4 Githyanki, Psionic +1 2 Githzerai, Psionic +1 2 Gray Glutton +0 9 Half-Giant +1 2 Intellect Devourer +1 7 Maenad +0 1 Mind Flayer, Psionic +3 11 Neothelid -0 25 Phthisic +1 7 Psicrystal -0/+0 1 Psion-Killer -0 15 Puppeteer +2 3 Puppeteer, Flesh Harrower +0 3 Temporal Filcher -0 8 Thought Eater -0* 3 Thought Slayer -0* 14 Thri-Kreen +1 3 Udoroot -0 6 Unbodied +3 7 Xeph +0 1 Yuan-Ti Pureblood, Psionic -0 4 Yuan-Ti Halfblood, Psionic -0 7 Yuan-Ti Abomination, Psionic +0 9
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Fiend Folio
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Spoiler: TemplatesTemplate name Estimated LA Half-Fey +2 Half-Illithid +2 Half-Troll +2 Huecava +1 Swordwraith +1 Ti-Khana +1 Wendigo +2 Yellow Musk Zombie -0*
Spoiler: SymbiontsMonster name Estimated LA Estimated ECL Cerebral, Cerebral Hood +1 3 Cerebral, Mind Leech +3 3 Cerebral, Psionic Sinew +0 2 Fiendish, Fiendish Familiar +0* 1 Fiendish, Gutworm -0* 1 Fiendish, Soul Tick +1 2 Fiendish, Ghostly Visage +3 4 Last edited by Inevitability; 2020-12-15 at 08:37 AM.
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