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    Of special note on Rey's forms is when Kat came out to him. His first reaction was to turn into teddy bear form and start to make a lewd comment. After Kat stomps him and goes "Dude, NOT FUNNY", he returns to wolf form and gives more serious advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    Of special note on Rey's forms is when Kat came out to him. His first reaction was to turn into teddy bear form and start to make a lewd comment. After Kat stomps him and goes "Dude, NOT FUNNY", he returns to wolf form and gives more serious advice.
    Hmm. Do you happen to have a link? I wonder if that's an in-story difference, or an artistic one. I know in a lot of manga, characters are drawn in 'chibi' format during asides, non-serious moments, and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    Hmm. Do you happen to have a link? I wonder if that's an in-story difference, or an artistic one. I know in a lot of manga, characters are drawn in 'chibi' format during asides, non-serious moments, and the like.
    Right here.

    I also recommend re-reading the chapter Quicksilver, and paying attention to how Reynardine's form shifts depending on what he's doing and what his attitude is. Generally speaking, his teddy bear form represents his darker impulses while his wolf form represents his noble side. We see the wolf form more often later because he has developed as a character over time, becoming a nobler being than he was at the start of the story.

    Rey makes an interesting comment on this divide here, where Kat mentions the difference in forms and Reynardine says "the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body". This implies that the teddy bear form encourages him to act more evil, while the wolf form helps him stay good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    Rey makes an interesting comment on this divide here, where Kat mentions the difference in forms and Reynardine says "the mind is nothing but a plaything of the body". This implies that the teddy bear form encourages him to act more evil, while the wolf form helps him stay good.
    That's what I was looking for, thanks! It is in-story, and has in-story reasons, as opposed to it being Tom using the less feature-defined form to be able to say more mischievous things.

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    So, I'm betting the two Annies end up working together to burn down the door and escape, working past (some of) their differences in the process. Any takers? :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkis View Post
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    So, I'm betting the two Annies end up working together to burn down the door and escape, working past (some of) their differences in the process. Any takers? :D
    No bet. I will, however, wager that that was Kat's plan in the first place. She knows the genre conventions.

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    Two girls enter, one girl leaves! Two girls enter, one girl leaves! Two girls enter, one girl leaves!

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    Oh man, that is cruel! Kat is more devious than I thought (assuming it was her idea)
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    Two girls enter, one girl leaves! Two girls enter, one girl leaves! Two girls enter, one girl leaves!
    Two girls, one door?
    "Like the old proverb says, if one sees something not right, one must draw out his sword to intervene"

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    Parley blips back in to find both Annies on the floor unmoving, hands wrapped around each other's throats.

    "OH MY GOD!!" she screams, and blips out.

    One Annie opens an eye. "You think she bought it?"

    Other Annie. "Yep. She'll be bringing the others here any second, so get ready. Remember, we look dead, and then-"

    Annie: "We both jump up and shout "APRIL FOOL!" THAT will teach them to pull a trick like this on us!"

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    Two girls, one door?
    And no toilet.
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    I thought Tom Bombadil dreadful — but worse still was the announcer's preliminary remarks that Goldberry was his daughter (!), and that Willowman was an ally of Mordor (!!).

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    Huh, that's still a better idea than what I expected Parley to do.

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    While it would likely not be what Tom will do, I would find it greatly amusing if they ended with a "mind link". They become two people that go about their lives, but can coordinate and communicate etherically.

    Annie's always acted a bit like a creepy twin without a twin, so it would fit here. Especially if they don't explain this change to everyone else. Especially if Tony, Reynard, and Jones just shrug in response to the change, and just appreciate the end of conflicts.

    From a continuing story perspective, it wouldn't matter who was on screen, as they're both Annie. Tom can do some fun dynamics with that IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mith View Post
    While it would likely not be what Tom will do, I would find it greatly amusing if they ended with a "mind link". They become two people that go about their lives, but can coordinate and communicate etherically.

    Annie's always acted a bit like a creepy twin without a twin, so it would fit here. Especially if they don't explain this change to everyone else. Especially if Tony, Reynard, and Jones just shrug in response to the change, and just appreciate the end of conflicts.

    From a continuing story perspective, it wouldn't matter who was on screen, as they're both Annie. Tom can do some fun dynamics with that IMO.
    "They're two people with a mind link" and "they're both Annie" say very different things to me – the latter is more "one person who incidentally has twice the usual number of everything".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    "They're two people with a mind link" and "they're both Annie" say very different things to me – the latter is more "one person who incidentally has twice the usual number of everything".
    Fair point. On the continuum from one end to the other, I would probably aim for more the second part. It's just that those arguments you have with yourself in your head can now end up more externally expressed.

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    Annie. Annie Annie Annie. Don't you know your tropes? NEVER say something like that!

    Besides, Kat is not your mother, she didn't promise not to send you into danger. And drop the smug, Parley could have bliipped all three of you to someplace so red it's incandescent.

    I wonder where the light is coming from...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    Besides, Kat is not your mother, she didn't promise not to send you into danger. And drop the smug, Parley could have bliipped all three of you to someplace so red it's incandescent.
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    It is very rude to call a sorceress a witch.


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    If she's a witch, then someone ought to burn her!
    Oh, wait....

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    Here's hoping that we are not subject to a loopy monologue.

    I would have preferred them to reach an understanding before his appearance.

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    I guess the Annies will bond over taking Puppy Loup home with them and hiding him from Tony, which leads to all kinds of funny situations and shenanigans?


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    If Annie has played 'Exit/Corners" we may be going to see one of them turn and slap the other while Loup is speaking, just to see how pre-recorded he actually is.

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    Wow, Loup is really evil. He's not just a spammer, he's a spammer who uses profiling to show up at the most irritating of times, and he actually engineers awkward schemes to create those irritating times.
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    I thought Tom Bombadil dreadful — but worse still was the announcer's preliminary remarks that Goldberry was his daughter (!), and that Willowman was an ally of Mordor (!!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mith View Post
    Here's hoping that we are not subject to a loopy monologue.

    I would have preferred them to reach an understanding before his appearance.
    Well, you sort of got the second thing you wanted, since this isn't actually Loup. But given that this is a prerecorded message, we will almost certainly be getting a monologue from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    Well, you sort of got the second thing you wanted, since this isn't actually Loup. But given that this is a prerecorded message, we will almost certainly be getting a monologue from him.
    Yeah. I'm not saying I don't like hyper planned farsighted characters who meddle, but they can either be stumped by things, or are not the direct antagonists, but an ally/force that is 90% aligned with the protagonists, and the disagreement is more on methods rather than goals.

    Plus, as it sits right now, Loup just succeeds because he is. There is nothing done so far that isn't considered a minor set back.

    This applies to Coyote in Gunnerkrigg Court as well, but he was never a focus of the story.

    Now if you get something interesting out of this, say full hivemind Annie (one identity, two bodies), and she can now survive having a child, that would be neat. However, we didn't need Loup sticking his snout in here right at the beginning.

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    Another creature has found the Loup-hole in the shield.

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    Another creature has found the Loup-hole in the shield.
    This fits really well with your avatar.

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    Frieza.

    Well, if you're gonna steal, steal from the best.

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    Are the Annies finally starting to get along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    Are the Annies finally starting to get along?
    Hopefully. I actually enjoyed this comic.

    What I'm hoping for though is that there is a different strengths approach through this arc. For example, if they get something that needs a full head on approach, that's where Forest Annie has a time to shine.

    My worry is that things that I thought could have gone really well (Annie being detatched from Andrew dying to Jean for example could be that she had arranged the bargain to safeguard her friends) instead turned into "Let's call Annie terrible and leave it at that."

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