Villainous Competition XX​I: Yarr!

[Aka-chan]

Holy crap, I was not expecting first place! Thank you to the judges and to Thurbane for hosting/chairing the competition. (Thurbane, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with as a competitor.)





...You know, it would be kind of amusing to immediately follow up a Pirates round with a Ninjas round.

[GrayDeath]

Impossible unless we take a narutoesk definition of Ninja (ergo sorcerer-likes calling themselves ninjas, often but not always, s Gishes^^).
Sadly the class sucks badly enough that I've never even played one.... :(

[ben-zayb]

Silver once again, seems like gold isn't for me :P. Congrats to everyone.

It took me four tries to get the gold. I'm confident you'll get it soon!

[Thurbane]

Are we still going with whatever you decided for next round, Thurbane, or is that up to Inevitability now?

I mean, I would normally assume it was up to the new Chariman, but since you said you had the theme locked in...

Yep, I've left it in his capable hands, so it will be his call.

Holy crap, I was not expecting first place! Thank you to the judges and to Thurbane for hosting/chairing the competition. (Thurbane, I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with as a competitor.)

Cheers.

...You know, it would be kind of amusing to immediately follow up a Pirates round with a Ninjas round.

Impossible unless we take a narutoesk definition of Ninja (ergo sorcerer-likes calling themselves ninjas, often but not always, s Gishes^^).
Sadly the class sucks badly enough that I've never even played one.... :(

Yes, may require a bit of clarification on what makes a Ninja: there's the historical ninja, anime ninja, D&D ninja and a multitude of others.

...but I definitely think a Ninja round would be interesting!

[Inevitability]

Thanks for the kind words, everyone! As has been said, I'll be your new chair.

With regards to the next round, I was considering the aforementioned multiheaded idea. A ninja round sounds fun as well, though I agree that some general restrictions on what's still a 'ninja' should be written up.

[Hackulator]

Thanks for the kind words, everyone! As has been said, I'll be your new chair.

With regards to the next round, I was considering the aforementioned multiheaded idea. A ninja round sounds fun as well, though I agree that some general restrictions on what's still a 'ninja' should be written up.

On one hand I really like the multiheaded idea, on the other hand I feel like it might be limited in terms of what you can make where the multiheaded aspect is important as opposed to just something extraneous to the build stuck on so it fits the requirement.

I could be totally wrong though, I might just be tunnel visioning cause I already know what I'll do for a multiheaded entry.

[danielxcutter]

Thanks for the kind words, everyone! As has been said, I'll be your new chair.

With regards to the next round, I was considering the aforementioned multiheaded idea. A ninja round sounds fun as well, though I agree that some general restrictions on what's still a 'ninja' should be written up.

I was pushing for multiheaded to be the next one specifically. It's the 22nd, after all. Two 2s.

[Korahir]

It took me four tries to get the gold. I'm confident you'll get it soon!

Not sure about VC but with Iron Chef together I am way beyond four submissions ;). Most of the time it is my own fault: laziness in the write up leads to not fleshing out the entry enough but that's the beatuiful thing about these silly internet contests: they motivate me to do better but I don't feel down when I created something awful and I think everyone who participated 10+ times already made the experience of reading judging, looking at the own entry and the nrealize: yeah, that's a screwup, that's totally dysfunctinoal.

I would be fine with either theme. I would base the Ninja theme on both he historic ninja (as little as we know about it) and the fictional ninja (From Naruto, to American Ninja Warrior to Batman Begins). Astoundingly the german wiki has a more detailed list of skills a historic ninja had to learn than the english one. Here it is translated:

• Taijutsu, Hichō-jutsu, Nawa-nage (body control, control over attacks, throwing ropes)
• Karate Koppō Taijutsu, Jūtaijutsu (unarmed techniques, throwing techniques)
• Sō-jutsu, Naginata-jutsu (spear and japanese hellebarde)
• Bō-jutsu, Jō-jutsu, Hanbō-jutsu (Staff and stick techniques)
• Senban-nage, Ken-nage-jutsu, Shuriken (throwing weapons)
• Ka-jutsu, Sui-jutsu (Using fire and water)
• Chikujō Gunryaku Hyōhō (fortress building and strategy)
• Onshin-jutsu (hide and camouflage)

Based on that list and the wishes for more restrictions, here are some suggestions regarding restrictions for the ninja theme:

• must have either maxed skill ranks or 15+ ranks or 20+ total modifier in one of the following: hide+move silently, disguise, disable device, craft (poison), craft (traps), .
• must be proficient with a ninja weapon [Complete Adventurer]
• must be of chaotic alignment

[Tiri]

I'm not terribly enthused for Multiheaded, but like Ooze, I think it's one of those things we should just get out of the way so people won't be suggesting it forever. Besides, it has some potential and round Twenty-Two is a good time for such a theme.

Ninja, in my opinion, should wait a while, as we just had a more 'occupational' round in the form of Pirate.

[danielxcutter]

Wait, do ninjas have to be chaotic? Shadow Sun Ninja builds are usually LG.

[Korahir]

Wait, do ninjas have to be chaotic? Shadow Sun Ninja builds are usually LG.

Just a suggestion on my part since more restrictions were wished for. I think Ninjas tend to be chaotic in nature although one could claim that the historic ones simply did what their ruler asked of them.

[Tiri]

Multiheaded is also better if we want more restrictions; at least one absolute condition immediately presents itself, as opposed to ninja, which as a concept is quite broad and fits better in a less-restricted round.

[The Viscount]

Good round everyone! Glad someone liked my comedy build. A big thank you to Thurbane for your service as our Chair. I look forward to seeing your contributions as a competitor. Welcome to our new chair, here's to a good next round, whatever it is (clearly it should be multiheaded ninjas).

[Buufreak]

Good round everyone! Glad someone liked my comedy build. A big thank you to Thurbane for your service as our Chair. I look forward to seeing your contributions as a competitor. Welcome to our new chair, here's to a good next round, whatever it is (clearly it should be multiheaded ninjas).

Multiheaded Hivemind Ninjas. FTFY.

[Jormengand]

Multiheaded is also better if we want more restrictions; at least one absolute condition immediately presents itself, as opposed to ninja, which as a concept is quite broad and fits better in a less-restricted round.

I vote ninja.

[GrayDeath]

Well, both multiheaded and Ninja would fit the enxt comp well for meta reasons.

IF we go any of the two however I do agree we need much more focussed restrictions/themes necessary, or we will have rounds where the theme is merely "tagged on" (for example just slapping the multiheaded template on a strong build).


For the 23rd round however I would still like to suggest something else.

Given the number a theme of "Conspirator Villain" would suggest itself, while I myself still want a "nonevil Villain" round (ergo clear antagonistst that (barely?) avoid being really Evil, while undoubtedly being evil) or something along those lines.

Or, for mechanically themed rounds ho about a round that demands the following: between 5 and 10 Monster HD, no more than 2 different Player classes added, thematically whole? Lets call it "Themed Monster"?
Clear restrictions while still allowing a wide variety of concepts and builds.

Just my 23 cents. ^^

[Buufreak]

Or, for mechanically themed rounds ho about a round that demands the following: between 5 and 10 Monster HD, no more than 2 different Player classes added, thematically whole? Lets call it "Themed Monster"?

To which I totally wouldn't post another Illithid >.>.

OH! Tiri, did you spot that I made my first appearance before the reveal?

[Thurbane]

I was pushing for multiheaded to be the next one specifically. It's the 22nd, after all. Two 2s.

That was my school of thought, but I'm OK with whatever Inevitability chooses.

With this comp in general, I kind of get the feeling there are (in very rough terms) two types of comps that individuals prefer:

1. Where the most likely entry is a straight 20 level character with no RHD. More or less a BBEG Iron Chef.

2. One where the "monster" aspect of the entry is more important (or at least as important) as the class levels.

[Hackulator]

Fine! You all want me to be a troll i can do that

I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't work if you tell people beforehand.

[Korahir]

IF I HAVE a knife YOU DIE!

Just asaving this for the mods, in case you delete it.

[Inevitability]

so sad, you all bullied him untill this happen

Is there some kind of unified we-hate-the-VC thing now?

[Douglas]

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