The Complex of Doom (OOC 2) (3.5)

[razorback]

J-H, do Gyriss and/or Shim see what the others are doing?

[J-H]

Based on the height differences and angles, I don't think so.

[Cavir]

alanek2002, why aren't you using your lesser vigor wand? Torlak and Pum could be well healed by now. Just don't use it on Kricen please.

[alanek2002]

Because flu? Also, because I can't use it very well - it was bought to have somebody else use it when needed. Like our cleric that vanished.

[Cavir]

Some chance is better than none. When they do finally come at us we'll probably need every hp we've got. Torlak and Kricen both need to roll for the Wis score for the wand. If Torlak rolls a 1 then Kricen could try too.

Kricen can be attacking at range or healing himself and the zombie. Figured damaging them was more important. Problem is about the time my spell wears out is about the same time the Enlarge spell wears out on Pum. Who'd have thought of combat outlasting min/level spells?!

[J-H]

That is a wand of lesser vigor, right? Who is it being used on?

[alanek2002]

Me, sorry. >.>

[J-H]

Oops, forgot (1d100)[84]

[J-H]

The ceiling is at least 1/4 mile up. This is a very, very tall large area.

[J-H]

Waiting on Alanek/Torlak.

[Cavir]

Sorry. Currently suffering from Flu.
Have torlak move with group for a couple of days?

Guessing this is still the case. If he has rope that would be useful for him to get it out, as Kricen mentioned.

Ragnarok'n'Roll- I believe you could Move too while pulling out the wand.

[alanek2002]

Awp.

I would have sworn I posted.

And yes, I have rope... 250 ft of it. But also a negative strength check modifier.

[Cavir]

The zombie has STR 23 so that's not an issue while we aren't being assaulted.

[Ragnarok'n'Roll]

Guessing this is still the case. If he has rope that would be useful for him to get it out, as Kricen mentioned.

Ragnarok'n'Roll- I believe you could Move too while pulling out the wand.

Pulling a specific item out of HHH is a move action by itself.

[J-H]

Whoops. Where is Shim flying to, and how high is he flying?

[razorback]

Circle down to about BC-170 to cut over to where Pum is.
Fairly high, 200 feet or so. Having been assaulted and knocked out for dinner by these creatures, he doesn't relish coming back into combat with them.

Edit - I also realize this is more than one turn to take, but that is his intended route.

[J-H]

Avariel form? 50' fly, average. That means movement up costs double, and your max angle up is 60*. 20' up (costs 40) and 10' southeast?

[razorback]

More of 10ft high (20ft movement) and 30ft SE. Next round he will double move on the same trajectory. Not sure if he can 'run' in a straight angle up.

[J-H]

I cannot find a hard and fast rule about who wins ties on opposed rolls. Posting in the 3.5 forum to figure out if Shim is tripped, or if the raptor fails and is subject to counter-trip.

[Cavir]

"If you win, you trip the defender. If you lose, the defender may immediately react"
Neither happened, so no neither effect happens?

I'll relook at the CHA damage tonight.

More of 10ft high (20ft movement) and 30ft SE
Shim flew 10’ up, but also went over a 5’ height increase on the ground, so he’s only 5’ up.

Ouch. Thought he was going to swing around the nest
Yeah, wondering if you can "run" while flying straight. Would make sense to me, losing your Dex as usual. At least when using wings (vs a spell).

[Ragnarok'n'Roll]

In the case of a tie, the higher natural modifier wins. If those are identical, you re-roll. I'll try to find a reference later.


In the skill section of the SRD it makes a distinction between static checks and opposed checks :

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/usingSkills.htm (Under the heading opposed checks).

Now granted that's for skills but I believe the same holds true for initiative checks - also an opposed checks, so my assumption is this applies everywhere.

[Cavir]

Under Grapple it has those rules for dealing with ties. Trip doesn't have it. I still think trip's wording can have the middle ground where nothing happens.

[Cavir]

Have you been factoring the 3, now 4, cha damage into your spell DCs and spells available to cast?

I have base 17 CHA. +2 from the Cloak. CHA 14-19 all give +1 L1 and L2 spells so number of spells haven't been affected yet. I only have 1 L1 spell left. I'd have to get down to CHA 11 to lose that bonus. I guess that's assuming bonus spell slots are used last instead of first. I'm currently at 15 CHA after that last hit. Lucky PITA getting to powerup mid-fight...

DC's would get affected and I'll take that into account as we go, sorry. That brings up an interesting question. With an ongoing spell like Chill Touch, is the DC set at casting time or is the existing spell affected by damage to the caster? I would think it would be constant as cast. For the current Chill Touch at cast time that would be DC 15 (10+spell level + 3 CHA + 1 Focus). The saves have all been successes so far anyway.

[J-H]

I think DC would be set at casting.

The other answer I got was based on skills (as Ragnarok said), but I think it's the best precedent to run with. Grappling is a skill?

Shim (1d20)[18]
Fanged, clawed, tentacley dinosaur of death (1d20)[9]

[Cavir]

Lucky Shim! A withdraw move away to temporary freedom.

OOC I realize OR probably has fast healing, but after that crit it is only at 45 damage? How hurt is it looking?

[J-H]

Somewhat injured.

[razorback]

Circle down to about BC-170 to cut over to where Pum is.
Fairly high, 200 feet or so. Having been assaulted and knocked out for dinner by these creatures, he doesn't relish coming back into combat with them.

Edit - I also realize this is more than one turn to take, but that is his intended route.

Avariel form? 50' fly, average. That means movement up costs double, and your max angle up is 60*. 20' up (costs 40) and 10' southeast?

More of 10ft high (20ft movement) and 30ft SE. Next round he will double move on the same trajectory. Not sure if he can 'run' in a straight angle up.

So, somewhere in there I read your SE and thought I was reading the map wrong and probably should have asked for clarification.

Shim was heading to BC-170, which I'm assuming is SW, but looking at the latest map, he should be further away on the map. He was trying to avoid the raptors. It 8hp and isn't the end of the world but he was actively avoiding getting close.

[J-H]

Sorry, I just went off the SE and had missed that coordinate.
The good news is that you're not damaged and one of the raptors is!

[razorback]

Thanks.
I am assuming he's about BG-160?

[J-H]

Is the map not displaying properly?