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2019-12-02, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-02, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
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2019-12-08, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Hey can anyone with a copy of Utterly Dwarfed record the appearance counts for the bonus content?
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2019-12-08, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
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2019-12-09, 12:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
960a: Elan, Banjo as a doctor, Eliza (puppet nurse), Mechane crewman with pink hair and dark skin (recurring, but I don't know who she is), Mechane crewman with blue and white cap (also recurring, but I don't know who she is), black Mechane crewman (Felix I think), Mechane crewman with pegleg and eyepatch, Mechane crewman with five o'clock shadow, 2 other mechan crewmen (panels 6 and 9), butterfly.
The added half page on 1051b has a Mechane crewman I don't recognize (panel 4 on the page), a male frost giant with a helmet with a noseguard (Frost Giant with Spangenhelm), Mechane crewman with five o'clock shadow, Roy, V, Elan, Haley, and Blackwing. There's also a partially visible Mechane crewman on panel 6 who is only partially visible.
Edited to add: Reading the above, you should have a pretty good idea of why I'm not volunteering to do all the bonus strips. Maybe I'll do more if I have time and my wife isn't reading the book.Last edited by Doug Lampert; 2019-12-09 at 12:02 AM.
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2019-12-10, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Here's my count of Book 6 material:
Spoiler: Book 6 Print/PDF-Exclusive Material
Title Page
Thor
Copyright Page
Thirden (?)
(We don't count the ads for the other books as it may change in future prints)
Preface
Haley Starshine
Introduction p1
Rich Burlew
Introduction p2
This is is a weird one where we see bits of #421, #777, and #937.
From #421 we see some of the crying troops from the penultimate panel.
From #777 we see the guard with the clipboard, the crowd of gladiators, the 3 speech balloons from the 3 guys named Spartacus, and part of the speech balloons from Gannji and Enor in the panel below.
From #937 we see Julio, Roy, and Bandana, as well as part of the doctor's speech balloon.
Introduction p3
Roy Greenhilt
Recap p1
Belkar Bitterleaf
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield
"Durkon"*
"Malack" the Lizardfolk
Nale
Roy Greenhilt
Snarl
Tarquin
Recap p2
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield
"Durkon"*
Hel
"Malack" the Lizardfolk
Nale
Round 3 title page
High Priest of Balder
High Priest of Vafthrudnir
High Priestess of Freya
High Priestess of Hoder
High Priestess of Odin
High Priestess of Sif
High Priestess Rubyrock
Representative of Southern Pantheon
Round 4 commentary
Monster in the Darkness
Oona
New panels inserted into the second page of #1051
(This is another weird one since it's 5 panels inserted into an existing strip, and the 5th isn't even continuous from the others, but it should still count going by how we counted similar bonus material in the past.)
Beatrix aka Bandana Secundus
Blackwing
Possibly the helmed frost giant from #1050 and the first page of #1051
Roy Greenhilt
Unknown Mechane crewman (might be unique to this panel?)
Round 6 title page
Durkon Allotrope Thundersthield
"Durkon"* (no dialogue but appears in his Negative Energy spirit form so it counts)
Round 8 title page
Council of Elders Relief
Round 9 title page
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield
Logann
Shirra Copperbottom
Shirra's Sons
Sigdi Thundershield
Final page
Redcloak
Xykon
#960a
Banjo
Carol
Elan the Bard
Eliza
Felix
Kwesi
Mechane Crewman with eyepatch and pegleg
Mechane Crewman with five o'clock shadow
(I think the butterfly and other 2 Mechane crew are unique to this page)
#966a
Beatrix aka Bandana Secundus
Elan the Bard
Haley Starshine
#967a
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield
Roy Greenhilt
#967b
Belkar Bitterleaf
Mr. Scruffy
(I think the gnomes from this and the previous 2 bonus strips are unique to each page)
#989a
Elan the Bard
Haley Starshine
#993a
Belkar Bitterleaf
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield
"Durkon"*
Roy Greenhilt
Veldrina
Wrecan
#1052a
Elan the Bard
Roy Greenhilt
(I think the 3 frost giants are unique to this page)
#1169a
Belkar Bitterleaf
Blackwing
Elan the Bard
Giant Death Worm
Haley Starshine
Roy Greenhilt
Vaarsuvius
#1170c
CotS Usher with Sandy Hair
Janna
Minrah Elle Shaleshoe
Priestess of Hel with short hair
(2 dominated Council of Elder Guards can be seen in the background of the first panel)
#1182a
Elan the Bard
Haley Starshine
Logann
Logann's Father
Logann's Sister
Quippie
Thirden
#1185a
Durkon Allotrope Thundershield
Haley Starshine
Minrah Elle Shaleshoe
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2019-12-11, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Also, Logann’s sister has a name now. In 1182a, panel 7, Logann calls her Amyth.
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2019-12-11, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Last edited by knag; 2019-12-11 at 07:08 PM. Reason: Haley, Roy, Belkar, Durkon, "Durkon"*, Logann, Shirra, Shirra's Sons, Sigdi, Veldrina, Wrecan (so many errors...)
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2019-12-11, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Great work, Knag and GJ!
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2019-12-11, 03:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Do the images from the introduction pages count? They are just literal reprints from the actual story, to show why there problems that needed fixing. The chapter images were all showing unique shots from the subject of the chapter break, so those I don't have a concern about.
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2019-12-11, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Yeah I think we need to reach some sort of consensus on the images on page v. We have always included all the representations of characters everywhere except the cover and the inside cover patterns. So to exclude these would be an exception. But it may be worth of exception, based on the fact that this is the first time Mr. Burlew has reprinted images from earlier comics. I could really go either way on this one.
I think we should take a vote of everyone who cares to follow this thread and voice an opinion:
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2019-12-11, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Thanks, knag! The only thing I'm not sure about is Frost Giant with Spangenhelm--looking at martianmister's posts where she tallied him I don't think it's the same frost giant in the new panel.
Regarding the reprinted panels, I am personally ok with ignoring them but doing so does seem to clash with how Wrecan and martianmister counted appearances.
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2019-12-12, 07:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
I'm also inclined to disregard the reprints. Including them distorts their apparent prominence in the story, however minor the effect is.
Number of Character Appearances VII - To Absent Friends
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2019-12-12, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
So she didn't count any of them in the post for #1050, because the were all new. In #1051, she counts "Frost Giant with Blue Tunic", but that character is not in the list in the first post. The same giant seems to appear in #1063 and #1077. The List shows Spangenhelm appearing 3 times, so that would seem to be #1050, #1063, and #1077. The giant who appears in #1051, panel 6, and then gets killed in the bonus panel, seems to me to be identical. But continuity-wise it can't make sense, since we now know that he's dead, and not the giant in #1063 or #1077.
So I don't know. I guess it's not spangenhelm, but his twin brother, and so we should count him as an Extra, since he now has one appearance in the main comic and one in the bonus material? It looks to me like it's intended to be the giant from the foreground of #1050 throwing rocks at the Mechane and getting killed, and I doubt if the Giant bothered to look if he used a similar design for a giant in the later strips. They all have: spangenhelm, white beard, blue tunic, gray sleeves, dark blue pants, dark gray fur boots, light grey fur cloak. My personal vote would be that they're all the same, there's a continuity error, and spangenhelm should be at 4 appearances in the main comic and +1 for the bonus panel.You found the secret message! Don't forget to edit the wiki!
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2019-12-12, 03:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
I just noticed that Kandro’s osquip head in 1182a is named Quippie in panel 5 and Quippy in panel 8. Are we sticking with Logann’s spelling, since he was first?
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2019-12-14, 05:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
I'm not sure about the print version, but in the PDF of UD, strip 1000 is actually split into 5 pages (1000a through 1000e). IIRC it was only counted as four pages when it came out online.
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2019-12-15, 12:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
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2019-12-15, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Unlike the zombie dragon in the printed version of #430, no one appears on both pages so yeah I don't think it affects anything in this thread. (idk how Wrecan handled 430)
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2019-12-24, 12:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
I think the official count doesn’t include the calendars, but for my own tally, I have been. What I see for the 2020 Calendar is the following:
Spoiler: In case someone doesn’t want the titles spoiled
Spoiler: Cover
Armand Vestinghole
Durkon Thundershield
Elan
Hobgoblin Cleric
Jirix
Lutey the Lute-tastical Lute
Redcloak
Vaarsuvius
Spoiler: January - “Searing Light”
Main Image:
Minrah Shaleshoe
Shadow x3
Lower Page:
Blackwing
Durkon Thundershield
Haley Starshine
Minrah Shaleshoe
Pangtok
Tingtox
Spoiler: February - “See Invisible”
Main Image:
(Invisible snow monster?)
Veldrina
Wrecan
Lower page:
Armand Vestinghole
Durkon Thundershield
Elan
(Invisible snow monster?) x2
Lutey the Lute-tastical Lute
Roy Greenhilt
Veldrina
Wrecan
Spoiler: March - “Wall of Fire”
Main Image:
Hilgya Firehelm
Kudzu Thundershield
Orc Warrior x4
Lower page:
Durkon Thundershield
Hilgya Firehelm
Kudzu Thundershield
Logann Brightstone
Sigdi Thundershield
Thirden
Spoiler: April - “Shamblers”
Main Image:
Lirian
Shambling Mound x6
Lower page:
Airship Crewman with Gray Hair
Gambling Mound
Leeky Windstaff
Little Whiskers
Pompey
Veldrina
Spoiler: May - “Iron Body”
Main image:
Jacinda
Lizardman x5
Miron Shewdanker
Lower page:
Empire of Blood Infantry x2
Jacinda
Kilkil
Miron Shewdanker
Tarquin
Tarquin’s Warrior Companion
Spoiler: June - “Prismatic Wall”
Main image:
Human Cleric
Human Warrior x3
Inkyrius
Vaarsuvius
Lower image:
Armand Vestinghole
Bandana Secundus
Blackwing
Elan
Haley Starshine
Lutey the Lute-tastical Lute
Phil Rodriguez
Vaarsuvius
Spoiler: July - “Mind Thrust”
Main image:
Desert King
Illusionary Desert King
Illusionary Laurin Shattersmith
Laurin Shattersmith
Lower page:
Haley Starshine
Minrah Shaleshoe
Psteve
Redcloak
Thirden
Spoiler: August - “Suggestion”
Main image:
Armand Vestinghole
Cyclops
Daigo
Elan
Kazumi Kato
Lutey the Lute-tastiest Lute
Lower image:
Armand Vestinghole
Belkar Bitterleaf
Daigo
Elan
Haley Starshine
Hinjo
Kazumi Kato
Lutey the Lute-tastiest Lute
Mr. Scruffy
Spoiler: September - “Programmed Illusion”
Main image:
Illusionary Julia Greenhilt
Julia Greenhilt
Lower page
Armand Vestinghole
Blackwing
Durkon Thundershield
Elan
Haley Starshine
Julia Greenhilt
Lutey the Lute-tastiest Lute
Roy Greenhilt
Vaarsuvius
Spoiler: October - “Shapechange”
Main image:
Doomed Warrior
Xykon
Lower page:
Demon Roach x2
Greyview
Oona
Redcloak
Xykon
Spoiler: November - “Contagion”
Main image:
Azure City Guard x2
Azure City Nobleman
Qarr
Therkla
Lower page:
Nale
Qarr
Sabine
Therkla
Thog
Yukyuk
Zz’dtri
Spoiler: December - “Planar Ally”
Main image:
Durkon Thundershield
Hound Archon
Tinna
Lower Page:
Argent
Durkon Thundershield
Hinjo
Minrah Shaleshoe
Rogo
Spoiler: 2021 - “Misspelled”
Baron
Baron’s Cat
Durkon Thundershield x2
Haley Starshine
James Bond
Phantasmal Biller
Roy Greenhilt x2
Talking Bread
Vaarsuvius
Wall Mouse x6
Zombie
If anyone sees anything I missed or got wrong, or can identify the thing in February, I’d appreciate the assist.
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2019-12-24, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
I love that you track Armand and Lutey
Do you have a tally of all the calendars?Last edited by knag; 2019-12-24 at 09:33 AM. Reason: full calendar tally?
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2019-12-24, 09:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Short answer, yes.
Longer answer:
I have all 10 books, all the calendars, the unprinted bonus stories, the coloring book, the Kickstarter updates, the cast page, and the board game. It’s total appearances, hence the x2 or whatever, plus a whole bunch of other stuff. It’s been a project I’ve been doing for several years now.
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2019-12-24, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2019-12-24, 10:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
The Kickstarter updates are the ones on the Kickstarter site, with (among other things) Haley climbing the progress chart, and Roy getting upset about Belkar being kicked.
The unprinted bonus stories are Uncivil Servant and Haleo & Julelan.
I forgot when I posted the list of sources that I also included the 10 wallpapers.
I haven’t been over to the Wiki before. Maybe after the holidays die down I can head over there and see what’s what.
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2019-12-24, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
How do you distinguish between Malack as a lizardfolk and as a vampire?
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A story of the exact wrong way to run a campaign.
The best thread derailment of all time.
The "canonical" list of Mostly Useless Magic Items.
A ridiculous campaign.
Weird dreams.
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2019-12-24, 02:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
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2019-12-24, 08:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
The Greatest Threads Of GiantITP (in my opinion):
A story of the exact wrong way to run a campaign.
The best thread derailment of all time.
The "canonical" list of Mostly Useless Magic Items.
A ridiculous campaign.
Weird dreams.
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2019-12-24, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
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2019-12-25, 04:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
I also think it's for consistency with the "a character's corpse counts as an appearance" rule, since that technically is the remains of Unnamed Lizardfolk Shaman.
TBH, I've never agreed with it, but it's not a big deal.
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2019-12-26, 03:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Well you've got the right answer but it is almost as if you have forgotten what a big reveal it was when we (or the Order for that matter) found out that the vampire and the soul trapped inside were distinct individuals. I think it is in respect of that distinction more than anything else.
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2019-12-26, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Number of Character Appearances VI - Wrecan: "I like counting things"
Are we treating this separation as being unique to vampires? That is to say, is there a difference among Xykon (living person), Xykon (dead body - when visible), and Xykon (animating lich essence - when speaking)?
Likewise, are Silver Dragon and Zombie Dragon distinct characters? Lirian and Zombie Lirian? Is the Crystal Golem enough the same (both body and spirit) to be considered Crystal?
Not quite the same, but related - I had been considering The Dark One (goblin) to be the same as The Dark One (god), but maybe they are different enough.
I’m not sure of the right answer (or best answer, I guess), but just some questions to get us thinking.