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    All right, V is prepared on multiple levels!
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    The more Belkar interacts with his pets, the more I like the little serial killer.

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    So, based on this preparation(and the fact that the unspoken plan guarantee is a metaphysical law in oots), one of two things is going to happen.

    1. No combat at all is going to happen.
    2. V having one more casting of mind-blank left is going to be used in an interesting and dramatic way.

    Also, bloodfeast is incredibly adorable.

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    "I don't know what that spell is, but I feel like it's going to lead to a joke about me somehow."

    "Oh, see? I knew we'd get there!"

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    Elan is awesome.
    So many great gags so little time.

    And Belkar and his pets... soo cute.
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    Hmm... Isn't there an air limit to living items put into a Bag of Holding?

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    V's enacting the proper "Kill it with FIRE" strategy that all undead should be subjected to. I approve.

    Also, is their really enough air in a bag of holding for a living critter to enjoy a nap without dying?
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    I can't see Mr Scruffy or Bloodfeast doing much. Better to have any reinforcements than none, though.
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    The menagerie of the stick continues to be the most adorable aspect of this comic.
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    Oh, so thats why garlic is important in a fight against Vampires.
    It keeps distractions like a Girlfriend away

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    And Elan is back to Beeing Elan

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    To be fair, Elan, it feels like you set yourself up for a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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    May I just say, I'm absolutely loving Elan's increasing self-awareness. What was odd though, was that for once it almost felt that he was playing up his cloudcuckoolander-ness to push the conversation towards the joke at his expense. Can it be possible that he's genuinely getting smarter all the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfing HalfOrc View Post
    Hmm... Isn't there an air limit to living items put into a Bag of Holding?
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    Also, is their really enough air in a bag of holding for a living critter to enjoy a nap without dying?
    10 minutes, by RAW. But clearly said rule is not in operation here.

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    Hopefully V prepared some Protection from Evil too. Doesn't last as long but there's more to go around.

    And "LOL, Elan dumb!" continues to pay dividends in the punchline economy.
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    I love Elan's names for his equipment. Armand Vestinghole. Haha.

    Barely failing a will save to resist making jokes about other "equipment" he might name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    Oh, so thats why garlic is important in a fight against Vampires.
    It keeps distractions like a Girlfriend away

    Great job Giant!
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    I have feelz that Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator is going to become plot relevant in about 7 to 10 strips.
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    Good gags and excellent fodder for the class and level geekery thread.

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    Per the SRD, one of the lesser-known (at least to me) benefits of Mind Blank is that the target becomes immune to scrying. That could pose a problem for any extradimensional beings trying to keep tabs on V's activities as they relate to the potential end of the world....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    10 minutes, by RAW. But clearly said rule is not in operation here.

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    Haley thought the rule is indeed in use. But would it still apply if the bag is never quite closed in full?
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    : I don't know what that spell is, but I feel like it's going to lead to a joke about me somehow.

    Um, Elan? Your comment was in fact the first joke about you it led to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hroşila View Post
    Haley thought the rule is indeed in use. But would it still apply if the bag is never quite closed in full?
    Maybe it doesn't apply to small enough creatures? The bag is full of air, after all, and Bloodfest probably doesn't need that much. As long as Belkar open the bag every day or so to refresh the air, it should be fine?

    We could probably extrapolate the volume of air needed by a reature that small as a fraction of the one needed by O-Chul. But just due to size difference, those 10 mintues for a human would turn into hours for a lizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    10 minutes, by RAW. But clearly said rule is not in operation here.
    It doesn't make any allowance for creature-size, so apparently if you put a mouse in one Bag of Holding and squeezed a minotaur into another, they'd both have exactly 10 minutes of air. From this we can conclude that obviously a Bag of Holding doesn't have ANY air and instead has some sort of back-up life support spell that is based on time rather than volume.
    Either that or the writers just badly underestimated what sort of shenanigans players would get up to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shale View Post
    Per the SRD, one of the lesser-known (at least to me) benefits of Mind Blank is that the target becomes immune to scrying. That could pose a problem for any extradimensional beings trying to keep tabs on V's activities as they relate to the potential end of the world....
    Unlikely. Scrying from heaven beats epic level protection (the spell Dorukan developed), so I would be surprised if some regular high Level spell could protect against a scry the Trio. I think, they could beat Dorukans Spell as well, but I am sure, by the time I finish my writing, somebody else will have responded already, including links to the relevant pages.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hroşila View Post
    Haley thought the rule is indeed in use. But would it still apply if the bag is never quite closed in full?
    Belkar does seem to be opening the bag once in a while, at least.
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    You're right, they could. Still, this is the first time we've seen this particular effect, so there's potential for shenanigans!
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    I don't think it counts if you fish for it Elan...

    Also I'm on the first page? Will wonders never cease?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepbluediver View Post
    It doesn't make any allowance for creature-size, so apparently if you put a mouse in one Bag of Holding and squeezed a minotaur into another, they'd both have exactly 10 minutes of air. From this we can conclude that obviously a Bag of Holding doesn't have ANY air and instead has some sort of back-up life support spell that is based on time rather than volume.
    Either that or the writers just badly underestimated what sort of shenanigans players would get up to.
    Honestly, that actually makes sense. The magic can keep a creature alive for 10 minutes before it gives out. you can fit 10 mice into a bag and they'll all live for 10 minutes.

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