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    Question i want a character that can...

    I want a character with natural AC and DR. any ideas? a tank type. preferably minimum armor. i'd like HIM to be tough not his items ya know? its also a low lvl dungeon.

    thanks in advance for the help.

    PS the character is already human

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    You're gonna have trouble doing that with using a level adjusted, or some sort of monstrous race.

    I myself know of no options to achieve this, at least at a low level. Some others may though.

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    can always add a lycanthrope template to him

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    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20031003e
    mineral warrior template (scroll down)
    +3 Natural Armor
    DR 8/Adamantine

    +1 LA

    (Can be applied to human)
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    If you really want to beg, Feral template in Savage Species

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    Well, IIRC, the Half-Minotaur template from Dragon #313 gives you Nat.AC, and with Feral from Savage Species you could get Fast healing, which is similar to, and in some ways better than DR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetRein View Post
    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20031003e
    mineral warrior template (scroll down)
    +3 Natural Armor
    DR 8/Adamantine

    +1 LA

    (Can be applied to human)
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    If you really want to beg, Feral template in Savage Species

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    These are the two best options. Combine them for good results (ECL 2)
    More or less, you get pounce, improved grab, rake, and rend, Fast Healing 2, DR 8/Adamantine, +9 NA, 40ft land speed, 20ft burrow speed, Claw attacks, darkvision, +6 Strength, -2 Dex, +6 Con, -6 Int (minimum 1), -2 Cha.

    A tank you would be.

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    Lets not forget his free feat, his +1 skill point per level (4 at 1st), and his highest level favored class.
    (and that is so going onto my next character...)
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    You could make a warforged character with the adamantine body feat. not quite natural armor, but intrinsic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagera View Post
    You could make a warforged character with the adamantine body feat. not quite natural armor, but intrinsic.
    The original poster already mentioned that the character was a human.
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    Half-Celestials and Half-Fiends, as I recall, get both and several other spiffy powers (Flight, Spell-Likes, etc). However, that's a +4 Level Adjustment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralamin View Post
    These are the two best options. Combine them for good results (ECL 2)
    More or less, you get pounce, improved grab, rake, and rend, Fast Healing 2, DR 8/Adamantine, +9 NA, 40ft land speed, 20ft burrow speed, Claw attacks, darkvision, +6 Strength, -2 Dex, +6 Con, -6 Int (minimum 1), -2 Cha.

    A tank you would be.
    Wait, can you actually play a char with less than 3 int?
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    Wait, can you actually play a char with less than 3 int?
    Sure, he's just barely smarter then an animal, and can't speak.
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    You do realize he only gets improved grab, DV 60' and fast healing 2 from Feral, right? He only gets those other abilities based on his monster hit dice. Reread p. 116, right above the table in the paragraph called Special Attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlWiPig View Post
    You do realize he only gets improved grab, DV 60' and fast healing 2 from Feral, right? He only gets those other abilities based on his monster hit dice. Reread p. 116, right above the table in the paragraph called Special Attacks.
    Correct. But fast healing 2 and improved grab are still more than worth the +1 LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight_Of_Twilight View Post
    Sure, he's just barely smarter then an animal, and can't speak.
    I don't have a PHB with me, but I believe it states that no creature of an intelligent race can have less than 3 INT score. And even if it doesn't, at INT 2 or 1 you've reached animal intelligence (not barely smarter, but exactly as smart), and it's gonna be hard to explain how a creature of animal intelligence managed to gain class levels..
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    Correct. But fast healing 2 and improved grab are still more than worth the +1 LA.

    And with imp. natural weapon, your claws do as much damage as a greatsword.
    Yes. In fact, Feral is one of my absolute favorite ever templates. What I was pointing out is the host of Special Abilities that Gralamin claimed his human would gain, when he in fact would not. I am suprised not to have heard about someone having "fixed" Feral by now, as it is clearly worth a +2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlWiPig View Post
    Yes. In fact, Feral is one of my absolute favorite ever templates. What I was pointing out is the host of Special Abilities that Gralamin claimed his human would gain, when he in fact would not. I am suprised not to have heard about someone having "fixed" Feral by now, as it is clearly worth a +2.
    Augh. I forgot to read that. Note to self: Read all of it next time.
    But yes He is right.

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    Look into the half iron golem template in MM2, it's a +3 ajustment, but gives 15/adamantite DR, and (i think +10 Natural armor, might be +12) plus some stat ajustments. The downside is you'll be dumb. really dumb. and not charismatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squee_nabob View Post
    Look into the half iron golem template in MM2, it's a +3 ajustment, but gives 15/adamantite DR, and (i think +10 Natural armor, might be +12) plus some stat ajustments. The downside is you'll be dumb. really dumb. and not charismatic.
    No, it's an LA: -- template. You can't take it as a player unless your DM is a moron. The CR is +3.

    Seriously, half-golem just doesn't work for player characters. This was especially true in 3.0, since their immunity to magic carried over to all spells and magical effects, not just those that allow SR.
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    Yeah, as a DM, I would have to Rule Half-Iron golem to be about a LA +a jillion.

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    To the best of my knowledge, it's also not possible to be reduced below 3 intelligence? Well maybe with ability drain/damage.
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