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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    OldWizardGuy

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    Default Unoptimised Apotheosis via Epic RAW

    I'm sure this has been done before (and better), but here's a very unoptimised path to godhood using epic rules.

    Rules
    1. PC with minimum reasonable non-epic items (tome of leadership and influence +5, cloak of charisma +6, rod of spellcraft +30, and that's it).
    2. PC of minimum level to get Legendary Commander (27th).
    3. PC with point buy allowing starting Charisma of 18.
    4. All followers are assumed to be NPC classes in equal proportion (adept, aristocrat, commoner, expert, warrior) rather than NPCs with PC class levels, or even of NPC classes of PC's choice (so can't go for 100% adepts).

    The PC
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    27th-level venerable human Favoured Soul, looking to become truly divine to escape death by old age.

    Abilities
    Charisma (for Leadership): 18 + 6 (leveling up) + 5 (tome) + 6 (cloak) +3 (venerable) = 38 (+14) total
    Intelligence (for Spellcraft): 10 (dump stat early in her career) +3 (venerable) = 13 (+1) total

    Skills
    Diplomacy 30 ranks
    Knowledge (religion) 30 ranks
    Spellcraft 30 ranks

    Feats
    Skill Focus (Spellcraft), Epic Skill Focus (Spellcraft)
    Leadership, Epic Leadership, Legendary Commander
    Epic Spellcasting

    Bonus Item: rod of spellcraft +30


    Leadership Score
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    +2 for stronghold (prereq for Legendary Commander), other modifiers (fairness, etc.) ignored for simplicity.
    27 (levels) + 14 (Charisma mod) +2 (stronghold) = 43

    Cohort
    25th level (no stronghold bonus), a cleric acolyte with Epic Spellcasting (so can contribute epic spell slot)

    Adepts by Level
    1st: 1300 /5 (1 out of every 5 NPCs is an adept) x10 (Legendary Commander) = 2600
    2nd: #1st-level followers /10 = 260
    3rd: #2nd-level followers / 2 = 130
    4th: repeat above = 65
    5th: .... = 33
    6th: .... = 17
    7th: .... = 9
    8th: .... = 5
    9th: .... = 3
    10th: .... = 2
    11th: .... = 1


    Total Spell Slots (that can be contributed to epic spellcasting)
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    Assuming all adepts have base Wisdom 13 from the nonelite array, that they put all points into Wisdom when levelling, and that adepts of 8th level are at least middle-aged so they can use their 3rd-level spell slot)

    1st: 2990 x -1 = -2990
    2nd: 124 x -3 = -372
    3rd: 11 x -5 = -55
    Epic: 1 (from cohort) x -19 = -19
    Total Mitigating Factor: -3436


    Favoured Soul's Spellcraft as mitigation: 30 (ranks) +1 (Intelligence) +13 (feats) + 30 (rod) +10 (take 10) = - 84

    -3436 - 84 = -3520 to work with

    So, develop an epic spell with the armour, fortify, transform, transport, and ward seeds that grants divine rank 0 (or even 1!). It'll be permanent of course (Spellcraft DC x 5). However, even without other mitigating factors (increasing casting time up to 200 days, burning XP from self or others, etc.) you should easily be able to develop and cast one with a DC less than 3520.
    Last edited by rferries; 2017-10-09 at 05:31 AM.

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