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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    Edit: Yes there is, it's called Terrifying Battle Shriek, and it's indeed terrifying.
    Hmm, it has definite benefits... forcing the enemy to retreat keeps them out of melee, and the Initiative loss inflicted by the Mastery benefit can be serious, but Terrifying Battle Shriek is also specifically single-target, where a normal Performance action can target groups. If she wanted to make everybody afraid of her, it'd be better to go with a standard social action.

    ...of course, not scaring everyone else helps maintain Black Claw's fiction that Ivory Knife isn't the aggressor here, so being single-target could also be a benefit...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Valin View Post
    It's an ambush. Enemy defense is set to zero. It's practical
    True, but if it connects, she'll lose most of that initiative she won through Open Palm Caress. Of course, there's potential for a good bit of bashing damage, so that might add up quick.

    (Says the one who started reading 3Ex two weeks ago, discussing strategy like they know something)...

    Edit: Also just realized, if you took both Open Palm Caress AND Inspiring Battle Hymn, you get bonuses whether you win or lose Join Battle. Clever.
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    Tuoni failed his Read Intentions. Your move, Eurus.

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    Those do not look like very good rolls, but there you have it. Psychological warfare through confusingly excessive emotional escalation.
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    Oh, thank Sol Invictus; I was sure you were going for a Hold At Bay and then three rounds of Manipulation charms.

    (I'm assuming you've got something that lets you add two dice for one mote, rather than the usual 1-1 trade.)

    Edit: Ascension, how big is the arena?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfm1995 View Post
    Oh, thank Sol Invictus; I was sure you were going for a Hold At Bay and then three rounds of Manipulation charms.

    (I'm assuming you've got something that lets you add two dice for one mote, rather than the usual 1-1 trade.)
    Harmonious Presence Meditation reduces the cost by 1 (minimum 1), so I figured a two-die excellency was efficient.

    And I did contemplate trying for a Hold At Bay, but there's actually not all that much she could do with it. I mean, except slowly rewriting Tuoni's personality (or more likely draining a bunch of his willpower). But that doesn't necessarily help her win, it's just spiteful. And she doesn't know that he turned his languages back on anyway.
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    That's still five bashing damage unless you have something to mitigate it, and she was able to move out to Medium range. (Though [Sealed by the orders of the Maiden of Secrets] might help if she tries to stay at range.)

    The bonus successes don't change the results, but I'm going to give you each a point of Willpower for that exchange (Tuoni's Read Intentions stunt and the attack), per the rules for 2-point stunts.

    Are you trying to hit everybody watching with that fear, Eurus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    That's still five bashing damage unless you have something to mitigate it, and she was able to move out to Medium range. (Though [Sealed by the orders of the Maiden of Secrets] might help if she tries to stay at range.)

    The bonus successes don't change the results, but I'm going to give you each a point of Willpower for that exchange (Tuoni's Read Intentions stunt and the attack), per the rules for 2-point stunts.

    Are you trying to hit everybody watching with that fear, Eurus?
    Ah, no. Not trying to make everyone scared of her. I might do some group influencing soon though, cough cough.

    And, sweet. Willpower added.
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    Oh, I knew something else had occurred to me...

    It occurred to me that rolling damage for Withering attacks and certain Charm-enhanced Decisive attacks will be tricky on the forum, as well, due to threshold successes adding to damage (and soak subtracting).

    For the sake of expediency, when you make attacks that add threshold successes to damage, please go ahead and roll some extra dice (though I'll need a note reminding me what your base damage pool is), and I'll count valid damage dice reading left to right in order, as English is read. Any excess dice rolled toward the right end of your dice string will be ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    Oh, I knew something else had occurred to me...

    It occurred to me that rolling damage for Withering attacks and certain Charm-enhanced Decisive attacks will be tricky on the forum, as well, due to threshold successes adding to damage (and soak subtracting).

    For the sake of expediency, when you make attacks that add threshold successes to damage, please go ahead and roll some extra dice (though I'll need a note reminding me what your base damage pool is), and I'll count valid damage dice reading left to right in order, as English is read. Any excess dice rolled toward the right end of your dice string will be ignored.
    EDIT: Ignore me. Yeah, this makes sense.
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    @Ascension - How big is the arena?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfm1995 View Post
    @Ascension - How big is the arena?
    It's, erm, roughly narrative-convenience size?

    To give a more serious answer, my mental image for scale has been the arena used in the preliminary rounds of the tournament stage of the Chunin Exams in Naruto, except an unroofed oval with stadium style seating, after the fashion of Roman amphitheaters, rather than a closed in rectangle with a single balcony.

    EDIT: That link's showing up as a thumbnail. Give me a second.

    EDIT 2: Try it now?
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    Also, how will we know what threshold damage is if we can't see their soak/hardness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    Also, how will we know what threshold damage is if we can't see their soak/hardness?
    I said to roll extra dice because there's functionally no way for you to predict what the actual threshold damage is before the defender has posted a response, even if you had access to their sheet. On defense, you can use Charms to raise Defense, raise Soak, etcetera, so until the defender's declared all defensive Charms, the attacker doesn't even know what the target number for their attack actually was.

    In tabletop we'd go Declaration of Attack (w/ Stunt) > Declaration of Defenses (w/ Stunt) > Attack Roll > Damage Roll and wouldn't need to roll any extra dice, but that would be a slow sequence in forum posts.

    For the sake of expediency, we're going more along the lines of Declare Attack (w/ Stunt), Roll for Attack, Roll for more Damage than will probably be necessary > Declare Defense (w/Stunt) WITHOUT looking at the attack roll > Defender or ST can then compare everything and share results.

    That doesn't resolve nearly as cleanly, interacts poorly with certain Charms, and requires a good deal of honesty on the part of the defender, but it should result in a significant savings of time in Play-by-Post.
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    The Twilights - or, as I like to think of them, the Smiley-Faced Brotherhood.

    Tuoni's anima banner is currently at the 'Burning' level
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfm1995 View Post
    Reflexively, he'll close the distance back to close.[/spoiler]
    Reflexive movement only covers one range band, so since she withdrew to Medium, the closest you could get reflexively is Short.
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    Whups, sorry, edited to fix.

    Also, it's the end of the round so we both get five motes back, yes?
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    Ooh, Hardness, nice. Ivory Knife's anima powers are more or less useless, alas. So she's knocked down to 3 initiative here, yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    Ooh, Hardness, nice. Ivory Knife's anima powers are more or less useless, alas. So she's knocked down to 3 initiative here, yeah?
    Eh, it still cost me a ton of essence.

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    The Hardness doesn't work here.

    Hardness checks against a Decisive attack's dice pool, not the actual damage rolled, and as long as the pool is higher, whatever damage is rolled goes through.

    "If a decisive attack’s damage dice pool is equal to or lower than the target’s Hardness, the decisive attack can’t inflict damage. [...] Unlike soak, Hardness does not subtract from an attack’s damage."
    This does mean that small Hardness values are of very little use in Ex3.

    You do both regain those 5 motes, though, that much is true, and Ivory Knife does reset to 3 Initiative.

    Tuoni starts off the next round, at 10 Initiative and at Short range. And now he can close to Close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    The Hardness doesn't work here.

    Hardness checks against a Decisive attack's dice pool, not the actual damage rolled, and as long as the pool is higher, whatever damage is rolled goes through.



    This does mean that small Hardness values are of very little use in Ex3.

    You do both regain those 5 motes, though, that much is true, and Ivory Knife does reset to 3 Initiative.

    Tuoni starts off the next round, at 10 Initiative and at Short range. And now he can close to Close.
    Oh, I assumed he already had enough hardness that the +5 put him over the edge? I can't see so I have no idea.
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    Oh, big whoops. Well, that's five motes wasted then, and a bunch of damage headed my way. Ouch.

    I suppose I should edit my last post to reflect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    Oh, I assumed he already had enough hardness that the +5 put him over the edge? I can't see so I have no idea.
    Hardness also doesn't stack, with rare exceptions.

    Quote Originally Posted by pfm1995 View Post
    Oh, big whoops. Well, that's five motes wasted then, and a bunch of damage headed my way. Ouch.

    I suppose I should edit my last post to reflect that.
    You should edit to reflect the attack hurting you, yeah, but you don't need to spend 5m on nothing. That was just a misunderstanding of the rules, and I'll let you retract it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    Hardness also doesn't stack, with rare exceptions.
    Really? That, I did not know. I assumed armor would stack with the banner. That's disappointing, heh.

    EDIT: It is Tuoni's turn again, right? The initiative swap means that he's acting twice in a row, essentially.
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    (Forgot to roll the withering attack)

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    Hmm. So, just to make sure I'm understanding grapple stuff right...

    -Ivory Knife is targeted by an attack that she can defend against normally. If this attack hits her...
    --She makes an opposed control roll against Tuoni that determines how long she's grappled for. No matter what, she's grappled at least until her turn.
    --She'll also be subjected to a withering attack.
    --And as long as she's grappled, her defense is at zero.

    What I'm not seeing is what, if any, actions the victim of a grapple can take while the grapple continues? The restrain/drag option seems to imply that the victim can do something if they're not restrained.
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    While grappling or being grappled, both characters suffer a -2 penalty to their Defense and cannot perform flurries. Victims caught in a grapple cannot take movement actions, and suffer a -1 penalty to all attacks, or a -3 penalty to all attacks using two-handed weapons.
    As best I can figure, you can take any action that isn't movement and isn't a flurry. I have no idea what happens if you try to grapple me back.
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    Hmm. And there's no real way to break the grapple once it's started... so getting grappled here would probably spell doom for Ivory Knife. And Tuoni spent enough on that excellency that I'm expecting this to be a very hard to avoid attack. So, how much essence am I willing to burn here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    Hmm. So, just to make sure I'm understanding grapple stuff right...

    -Ivory Knife is targeted by an attack that she can defend against normally.
    This is correct. You can defend against the initial attack normally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    If this attack hits her...
    If the attack hits her AND the Grappler scores at least 2 successes on the Initiative roll to execute the Gambit. (Which isn't difficult at his Initiative level, but this is a step in the process.)

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    --She makes an opposed control roll against Tuoni that determines how long she's grappled for. No matter what, she's grappled at least until her turn.
    At least until the start of her next turn, correct.

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    --She'll also be subjected to a withering attack.
    He's got a lot of options, but that's the one he's taking, yes.

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    --And as long as she's grappled, her defense is at zero.
    The situation is a little bit more complicated here. Savage attacks from the grappler do not afford the chance to defend against them (even the attack roll against Defense 0 is only to determine threshold successes, it can't be resisted), but against attacks from anyone else she could still defend, just at -2 Defense. (The same Defense penalty applies to her attacker, if anyone outside the grapple were to attack him.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eurus View Post
    What I'm not seeing is what, if any, actions the victim of a grapple can take while the grapple continues? The restrain/drag option seems to imply that the victim can do something if they're not restrained.
    The victim of a grapple can still act, but can't take movement actions, can't flurry (even the Voice of the Night Bird flurry, sorry), and takes a -1 Penalty to attacks (-3 if using a two-handed weapon). You can still do anything that's not movement or a flurry unless Restrained, though.

    In case you're thinking of it, I don't believe Storm-Calming Embrace can be used defensively on a Control roll. The Decisive-only Keyword and the phrasing of the Charm would imply that it's only used on offensive grapples.

    As a note, though... you're too low-Initiative to pull it off, most likely, but you CAN actually grapple someone who is grappling you by making a Decisive Attack roll (at the -1 penalty, but with the other person's Defense penalized as well), rolling Initiative per the Gambit rules, doing a second Control roll, etc. In that case, each grappler's rounds of control would be tracked separately.

    As another note...

    Quote Originally Posted by pfm1995 View Post
    Closing the distance and initiating a Grapple, spending 3m on Empowering Justice Redirection and 7m on bonus dice on the attack.
    The Savage attack that's made AFTER you Grapple could be enhanced by Empowering Justice Redirection, I think (it would boost the roll you make against Defense 0 to determine Threshold Successes), but not the Grapple itself. All Gambits are technically Decisive Attacks, and Empowering Justice Redirection is Withering-only.

    Also, for future reference, remember that each automatic Success added by a Charm counts as two dice toward the cap on adding dice from Charms. With a Dex+MA pool of 9, you cannot add two automatic successes AND 7 dice from an Excellency; you would be limited to adding two successes and five dice.

    Here, however, since Empowering Justice Redirection can't apply to the initial (Decisive) attack that initiates the Gambit, we can apply those successes to the roll for the Savage (should the Grapple land; if it doesn't, you can refund yourself the motes for Empowering Justice Redirection since you'll have never had the chance to activate it) and just count the seven dice toward the initial attack.

    Oh, and Specialties don't stack, and all Specialties are capped at +1, so you can't ever add 2 from Specialties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    Also, for future reference, remember that each automatic Success added by a Charm counts as two dice toward the cap on adding dice from Charms. With a Dex+MA pool of 9, you cannot add two automatic successes AND 7 dice from an Excellency; you would be limited to adding two successes and five dice.

    Here, however, since Empowering Justice Redirection can't apply to the initial (Decisive) attack that initiates the Gambit, we can apply those successes to the roll for the Savage (should the Grapple land; if it doesn't, you can refund yourself the motes for Empowering Justice Redirection since you'll have never had the chance to activate it) and just count the seven dice toward the initial attack.

    Oh, and Specialties don't stack, and all Specialties are capped at +1, so you can't ever add 2 from Specialties.
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