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    Quote Originally Posted by Xihirli View Post
    I don't know how much you can really blame the culture for spoiling the trailer. It's... the trailer.
    More a reference to how much we currently know about upcoming movies thanks to the internet than anything else. And yes, I realize it's possible to avoid it, so I'm just as much at fault.

    But on the other hand, I'm old enough that this was the first Star Wars trailer I saw in a theater. Revealing plot details and surprises weren't much of a feature back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Flumph View Post
    More a reference to how much we currently know about upcoming movies thanks to the internet than anything else. And yes, I realize it's possible to avoid it, so I'm just as much at fault.

    But on the other hand, I'm old enough that this was the first Star Wars trailer I saw in a theater. Revealing plot details and surprises weren't much of a feature back then.
    In that trailer C3P0 rips a poster off a wall, but I can't remember that from the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed View Post
    In that trailer C3P0 rips a poster off a wall, but I can't remember that from the movie.
    It's one of the deleted scenes. The poster is a "warning, Wampas behind here" sign, which C-3PO rips off while being pursued by snowtroopers. As I recall, a room of that sort also appears in the escape-from-Hoth level of the Shadows of the Empire video game.

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    Yes, originally in the Hoth section of Empire, some Wampas tunnel into the Rebel base. They are contained in one section of the base with that poster warning not to open the door. As Mando says, then the payoff was that 3PO tears down the poster during the pursuit later and a snowtrooper gets mauled. Not a great idea, didn't have anything to do with anything and would have disrupted the flow of the 1st act to lead up to a weak payoff. They shot a few scenes but apparently dropped the idea pretty quick, likely because the Wampa suits weren't that convincing.

    Some of the footage they shot was on the Star Wars blu-ray extras and I think on Disney+ as well. Youtube has uploaded it also if you're curious.

    Edit: Good Grief, after watching that again, it's like Hoth was invaded by a Doctor Who episode
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire_Flumph View Post
    Edit: Good Grief, after watching that again, it's like Hoth was invaded by a Doctor Who episode
    Hey! Not so the monster costumes were that bad! Also the Star Wars Yeti never regenerate on screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelphas View Post
    So here I am, trapped in my laboratory, trying to create a Mechabeast that's powerful enough to take down the howling horde outside my door, but also won't join them once it realizes what I've done...twentieth time's the charm, right?
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    How about a Jovian Uplift stuck in a Case morph? it makes so little sense.

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    To Keybounce's commentary, we already knew that her name was "Rey Solo," so the fact that her father is Xasha shouldn't be that much of a surprise.

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    To be fair, she could've been related to the original Han Solo. Dude was a shapeshifter after all.

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    I wonder if we'll see him hit Z before Kylo kills him.
    Or maybe when he does that ghost thing in Rise of Skywalker.
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    The first sign of a professional. They check the actual places people hide. Closets, under the bed, storage bins in the floor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    To be fair, she could've been related to the original Han Solo. Dude was a shapeshifter after all.

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    I wonder if we'll see him hit Z before Kylo kills him.
    Or maybe when he does that ghost thing in Rise of Skywalker.
    She(/Pete) also used the Uncle Luke when BB-8 is talking about Potter_1337 Starkiller, so we've had decent reasons to believe she's related to Leia at least. And I don't believe that Leia ever met Han Solo.

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    Or maybe when he's a ghost he'll use his original identity, which probably begins with a Y or Z. Remember, he's stealing identities after stealing the identity of Alberto the serial identity thief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelphas View Post
    So here I am, trapped in my laboratory, trying to create a Mechabeast that's powerful enough to take down the howling horde outside my door, but also won't join them once it realizes what I've done...twentieth time's the charm, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    How about a Jovian Uplift stuck in a Case morph? it makes so little sense.

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    Okay, that's not quite as bad as getting killed at char gen, but it's close. Still, zero sessions got to be a new record.

    Does it count as PvP when no one knew your PC was there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    New comic

    Okay, that's not quite as bad as getting killed at char gen, but it's close. Still, zero sessions got to be a new record.

    Does it count as PvP when no one knew your PC was there?
    I rarely do a hard disagree with the DM in this comic, but in this case i think it would be fair for Jim to cry foul if his character got killed before he even got to play in a session. Its one thing to die of your own poor decisions or builds, but "he got killed in an airstrike off screen" is totally inappropriate IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
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    Okay, that's not quite as bad as getting killed at char gen, but it's close. Still, zero sessions got to be a new record.

    Does it count as PvP when no one knew your PC was there?
    Well, Episode IV had pvp between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan, and IIRC that was before most of the group knew that Annie was controlling Darth Vader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    I rarely do a hard disagree with the DM in this comic, but in this case i think it would be fair for Jim to cry foul if his character got killed before he even got to play in a session. Its one thing to die of your own poor decisions or builds, but "he got killed in an airstrike off screen" is totally inappropriate IMO.
    Yes came here to basically post the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    I rarely do a hard disagree with the DM in this comic, but in this case i think it would be fair for Jim to cry foul if his character got killed before he even got to play in a session. Its one thing to die of your own poor decisions or builds, but "he got killed in an airstrike off screen" is totally inappropriate IMO.
    You can also read it as 'the GM knows they can introduce Han more easily, agreed it with Jim, and this is the story they agreed to go with'. Still not amazing but it's better GMing practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelphas View Post
    So here I am, trapped in my laboratory, trying to create a Mechabeast that's powerful enough to take down the howling horde outside my door, but also won't join them once it realizes what I've done...twentieth time's the charm, right?
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    How about a Jovian Uplift stuck in a Case morph? it makes so little sense.

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    I read it as "they played out a solo session 0 and he died before getting to meet the main party".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkis View Post
    I read it as "they played out a solo session 0 and he died before getting to meet the main party".
    Actually, this is all from the GM's notes of all the stuff they skipped that he mapped out for them to do in Niima. Jim was supposed to take over an NPC they bypassed, so presumably he just let Jim play Han instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Okay, that's not quite as bad as getting killed at char gen, but it's close. Still, zero sessions got to be a new record.
    It isn't really. Han played Kyle Katarn, Bria Tharen, and Bail Organa, who all died before appearing in even one strip. Lovas at least appeared once on panel, very blurred out. Update 2021-01-25 05Z: Oops, I realized #1930 shows Zuvio, not Lovas, then found that Dire_Flumph already pointed that out. Lovas hasn't appeared anywhere on panel before his death either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_jonas View Post
    It isn't really. Han played Kyle Katarn, Bria Tharen, and Bail Organa, who all died before appearing in even one strip. Lovas at least appeared once on panel, very blurred out.
    That's Zuvio, not Lovas. Lovas was in custody. I was shocked looking at Wookiepedia to find out the Irregulars hadn't even come up with Lovas' backstory, it's all canon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_jonas View Post
    It isn't really. Han played Kyle Katarn, Bria Tharen, and Bail Organa, who all died before appearing in even one strip. Lovas at least appeared once on panel, very blurred out.
    You mean this Kyle Katarn, this Bria Tharen, and this Bail Organa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch View Post
    You mean this Kyle Katarn, this Bria Tharen, and this Bail Organa?
    But those three appeared (well, Bail appeared as played by Jim) after they died... publication-wise, at any rate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch View Post
    You mean this Kyle Katarn, this Bria Tharen, and this Bail Organa?
    No, This Bail Organa. He did appear on screen before his death, unlike the other two.
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    I suppose this is my ignorance showing, but isn't Jim's character originally Greedo? Am I forgetting some wholesale identity theft? I skimmed and noticed that Greedo shot Han (first) in 759, then started taking Ford's lines shortly afterwards, but didn't look much farther than that.

    Oh, ugh... then there's him being some traitor and somesuch...

    Could someone sum up this guy's character arcs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_jonas View Post
    It isn't really. Han played Kyle Katarn, Bria Tharen, and Bail Organa, who all died before appearing in even one strip.
    Strip != Sessions.

    Kyle, Bria and Bail appeared in off-the-screen actual sessions with the GM and the group. He played them. He just got them killed fast (eventually we see a flashback to that campaign with Rogue One).
    This new character didn't get that. He was created and when he was suppoed to show up it was "sorry, you're dead"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    This new character didn't get that. He was created and when he was suppoed to show up it was "sorry, you're dead"
    Lovas probably did appear in a private session between the GM and Jim.

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    Ah, Traveler. Never had a character killed at chargen (Paranoia, however...), but that game was good for randos. Usually "how do these go together?" but occasionally with complete OP BS like O'Kelvin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaRix View Post
    I suppose this is my ignorance showing, but isn't Jim's character originally Greedo? Am I forgetting some wholesale identity theft?
    There was a lot more identity theft in his backstory. "It goes all the way back to Alberto!" "Who was a serial identity thief."
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    It does make me wonder who pre-Alberto was. A clone of some kind with just a serial number for a name, caught in an endless search for an identity but making the basic mistake of using other people's instead of growing his own?

    Well, that's probably what Annie or Ben would come up with.

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    New comic

    Better question:
    Who are you and what have you done with Jim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
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    Better question:
    Who are you and what have you done with Jim?
    Eh, I'm certain we'll find out Jim's addition to the plan in a strip or two.
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    It probably involves going to a bar to sell the last barrels of tuna booze oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelphas View Post
    So here I am, trapped in my laboratory, trying to create a Mechabeast that's powerful enough to take down the howling horde outside my door, but also won't join them once it realizes what I've done...twentieth time's the charm, right?
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    Just realized something:

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    Do we know if Kylo Ren is actually Ben Solo in this? Because that would make Rey and him siblings (which would make a nice reveal when he removes his helmet after she's captured). But it would also make that weird romance scene at the end, like super creepy.

    But if he's not Ben, then the whole scene on the Bridge of Starkiller Base is gonna be weird. And Han's Force Ghost or whatever appearing later on makes even less sense.

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