Darths & Droids IV: Not in Numerical Order

[Dire_Flumph]

Speaking of which, is there any truth to the rumor that Lucas has been brought back for the next three movies?

I'd be surprised. There have been rumors about Disney resetting the sequel movies and Lucas returning, but I haven't seen anything from a source I'd consider credible, and mostly just seem to be rumor mills feeding off each other. There's been no solid info on the next Star Wars movie other than a tentative release in December 2022. Taika Waititi is supposed to do a film, and last I heard Rian Johnson is still supposed to be doing a film or trilogy of films, but there's no indication what those films will be about.

[theangelJean]

Re: Tatooine sand continuity, the Jedha explosion happened during the "Butch Cassian and the Sundance Droid" adventure, which was the D&D adaptation of Rogue One - but I forgot that in D&D continuity this is set before Episode IV. I haven't seen the movie - I was told to avoid it because awesome but huge downer - but I had this idea that it was set after Ep. VI in SW continuity (seeing as it came out around the same time as Ep VII? Or just before Ep. VIII? Or something?) If the sand-blocking had begun after Ep. VI, then the timeline would make sense, but now I'm not sure what's going on.

[Rockphed]

Re: Tatooine sand continuity, the Jedha explosion happened during the "Butch Cassian and the Sundance Droid" adventure, which was the D&D adaptation of Rogue One - but I forgot that in D&D continuity this is set before Episode IV. I haven't seen the movie - I was told to avoid it because awesome but huge downer - but I had this idea that it was set after Ep. VI in SW continuity (seeing as it came out around the same time as Ep VII? Or just before Ep. VIII? Or something?) If the sand-blocking had begun after Ep. VI, then the timeline would make sense, but now I'm not sure what's going on.

Whoever told you not to watch Rogue One was not doing you a favor. Rogue One is excellent. Yes, a lot of people who you care about die. Some of them even die in horrible ways that aren't battle related. It does a really good job, however, of showing what the rebellion had to do to even pretend to be relevant before the battle of Yavin. And yes, they were just pretending. Vader might have put on a show about "you are a member of the rebel alliance and a traitor", but I suspect that Palpatine was supporting rebellions as ways to get the discontented people into easy to find groups and to generate a low level of conflict with which to convince the citizenry that the harsh measures were better than the alternative. After all, "Rebel terrorists kill 3 on Tatooine, manhunt underway" is a great headline. If there are just enough rebels to be able to fill the news with stories of their atrocities and capture, then people in the more civilized areas will say, "boy am I glad I live in the Empire where it is safe, not in the outer rim where those rebels are always causing trouble."

[Rodin]

Re: Tatooine sand continuity, the Jedha explosion happened during the "Butch Cassian and the Sundance Droid" adventure, which was the D&D adaptation of Rogue One - but I forgot that in D&D continuity this is set before Episode IV. I haven't seen the movie - I was told to avoid it because awesome but huge downer - but I had this idea that it was set after Ep. VI in SW continuity (seeing as it came out around the same time as Ep VII? Or just before Ep. VIII? Or something?) If the sand-blocking had begun after Ep. VI, then the timeline would make sense, but now I'm not sure what's going on.

It's a prequel to episode IV that explains how Leia got the plans to the Death Star. It's "Star Wars does The Dirty Dozen", and it's pretty great. My opinion on the movie has soured a bit over the years - there's a lot of angst about Jyn Erso's family problems that don't belong in a war movie. Overall though, it's up there with TFA as my favorite post-OT Star Wars movies.

[Anonymouswizard]

I haven't watched episodes VIII and IX myself, but I've read all the spoilers. I can say, from the discussion above, that the Darths & Droids continuity is likely to be more coherent than the trilogy of movies.

A lot more coherent?

Coherent. That's the word.

Considering that we know that the Irregulars have had a plan since before Episode 9 was released, and probably altered it after the release, it's almost certain. I'm sure there's scenes from Episodes 8 and 9 already fully written, because they had scenes from the OT all worked out while doing the PT.

[SirKazum]

Considering that we know that the Irregulars have had a plan since before Episode 9 was released, and probably altered it after the release, it's almost certain. I'm sure there's scenes from Episodes 8 and 9 already fully written, because they had scenes from the OT all worked out while doing the PT.

Weren't they specifically waiting until Episode 9 came out to plan out the sequel trilogy, so they could make sure it all fit together?

[Rogar Demonblud]

Yes. It's why we had to subsist on Muppets for most of a year.

[Anonymouswizard]

Weren't they specifically waiting until Episode 9 came out to plan out the sequel trilogy, so they could make sure it all fit together?

So my understanding of how the planning process went goes as follows:

1. E7 comes out, WI make rough plan for E7, but nothing major.
2. E8 comes out, plan for E7 gets more solid as rough plan for E8 is formed, but still not finalised.
3. Kermit the Jedi.
4. E9 comes out, plans for E7 and E8 reviewed to see how much is useable, rough plan for E9 made, plan for ST reviewed, now useless scenes thrown out, finalised plan is written.
5. Kyros channels 600 points of mana into a fireball.

Although now I look at it I seem to be wrong, went back to the last pre-muppet comic and the implication is that there had been no pre-E9 planning. Huh, I'd have expected at least a little bit, but guess my memory was faulty.

[dmmaus]

We didn't do any detailed story planning until after Episode 9 came out. We did have some notes on who might play which characters, some amusing lines of dialogue for specific scenes, and a few vague ideas for what twists we could do to the story. But really not a whole lot.

[Rogar Demonblud]

I have to admit this is a better looking interrogation room than the one Leia was in back in EpIV.

[SirKazum]

Keybounce, I believe the word you're looking for is "speciesist". I've seen it used in a vegan context, of all things... make of it what you will.

[b_jonas]

Keybounce, I believe the word you're looking for is "speciesist". I've seen it used […]

You may also have seen it used in OotS #451 sixteenth panel, where Redcloak the goblin uses it for himself, as he hates all humans.

[Xihirli]

Equally!

I still kinda wish Sally was Rey, but her as Ren is a treat.

[Anonymouswizard]

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Okay, I'm definitely calling them setting up 'Hux is the spy' much earlier. Also that Hux is going to come across as much more competent, this is Ben, the guy who sees RPG adventures as puzzles after all.

Huh, note I'm wondering if Ben is supposed to be the character's full first name or a diminutive. Guess we'll find out of Sally ever gets very angry with him.

[Kantaki]

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That plan makes way too much sense.
That's never good if you want them to work.
Oh wait, Finn wants Poe dead* and Poe... is played by Jim.
I'm sure this will go swimmingly.

As in they will sink their ship and have to swim.
Figuratively speaking. You can't swim in space.

*As soon as he connects the dots at least.

[137beth]

Well of course Hux has to be better at coming up with plans than Phasma: Phasma is an NPC!

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I wonder if the whole "they can both keep an eye on each other" is meant to foreshadow the arguments Finn and Poe have in Episode IX?

[Kantaki]

Well of course Hux has to be better at coming up with plans than Phasma: Phasma is an NPC!

More importantly, Ben is one of the players who makes actually good, well thought-out plans.

[Rogar Demonblud]

More importantly, it looks like Ben is once again taking the role of "Only sane being in the asylum".

[keybounce]

Oh wait, Finn wants Poe dead* and Poe... is played by Jim.

What, you think 4 dead in 4 sessions wasn't good enough, and he needs more dead characters?

:-)

[Kantaki]

What, you think 4 dead in 4 sessions wasn't good enough, and he needs more dead characters?

:-)

Well, yeah. That's one dead character per session. Lots of room to improve.
Soon he will be up to four dead in two sessions.

Now I almost want to see them play Tomb of Horrors.

But I was more thinking about Jim's amazing ability to derail even his own plans.
Ben and Sally don't really stand a chance.

[137beth]

Oh, so the First Order believes in some weird Hokey Pokey stuff like "The Force."

[SirKazum]

Hey is that trooper guarding Poe the one that was played by Daniel Craig, of James Bond fame? (Unspoilered because it's pointless trivia that doesn't change anything spoiler-wise)

[Kantaki]

Hey is that trooper guarding Poe the one that was played by Daniel Craig, of James Bond fame? (Unspoilered because it's pointless trivia that doesn't change anything spoiler-wise)

I think he shows up later.

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Wasn't he the trooper Rey used the mind trick on?

[SirKazum]

I think he shows up later.

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Wasn't he the trooper Rey used the mind trick on?

Oh yeah, you might be right, and I might be confusing them. In any case, one of those nameless, faceless troopers has James Bond's mug behind the helmet, which I thought was a fun factoid

[Morquard]

To address Keybounces comment on blur in digital. I actually read somewhere that in post-processing that blur is artificially created (in fast paced scenes at least) because somehow the viewers consider the result "more natural"

[Rodin]

Oh yeah, you might be right, and I might be confusing them. In any case, one of those nameless, faceless troopers has James Bond's mug behind the helmet, which I thought was a fun factoid

You would be right! That is really cool, and something which I did not know. I'm pretty oblivious to unexpected actors in a movie, and I love finding out about them later.

[Kantaki]

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And here we go.
Jim's being Jim.

To his credit, a actual escape means no one can find out it was faked.
On the other hand your bosses might think you actually defected, which is probably not good for your long-term health.
On the gripping hand it's Jim, so he might mean "let's actually defect", which is not the plan. Seriously, Finn already wants Poe dead*, don't give him any more reason.

*Only a matter of time until he works out who murdered his buddy.

[137beth]

Oh good, Jim is making outlandish "plans" again

It occurs to me that, given Jim and Annie are playing Poe and Finn, we might end up seeing

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A Poe and Finn romance

[Kantaki]

Oh good, Jim is making outlandish "plans" again

It occurs to me that, given Jim and Annie are playing Poe and Finn, we might end up seeing

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A Poe and Finn romance

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I mean, they made Anakin and Padme work. Poe and Finn would be easy in comparison.

[theangelJean]

memnarch, you're almost right. They're not cooling fins ... they're "looking cool" fins.

That's my best guess, anyway.