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    This is probably a silly question but.. is there any feat or something that removes the strength penalty for your offhand weapon?

    Like Ambidexterity or somesuch? (Is that even a word?)
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    A bunch of things reduce it but I don't think you can get lower than -2/-2, and that's with a light off-hand weapon and Ambidextrous.
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    Default Re: Silly question on TWF

    The epic-level feat Perfect Two Weapon Fighting allows you to make up to four attacks with your offhand weapons, but it doesn't remove the penalty.

    Ambidexterity is no longer a feat, it seems--it's a class feature of the Tempest class from Complete Adventurer. It simply reduces the penalty by 1.

    Oversized Two Weapon Fighting from Complete Adventurer allows you to treat a one-handed weapon in your offhand as a light weapon, so you receive the -2/-2 penalty instead of the -4/-4 penalty for wielding two one-handed weapons.

    The LeShay epic level creature has a special quality called Superior Two Weapon Fighting, which removes the penalties altogether.
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    Default Re: Silly question on TWF

    Erm, I didn't mean to say penalty.

    I meant a feat that would allow you to put your full strength bonus into both weapons. Instead of half, for off-hand.
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    There IS one for that, but damned if I can remember what it's called.
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    Default Re: Silly question on TWF

    The Bloodclaw Master prestige class from tome of battle lets you do this with certain weapons, and the Revenant Blade prestige class from players guide to Eberron goes a step further and gives you 1.5 x str bonus for both ends of a double bladed scimitar.
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    Default Re: Silly question on TWF

    Yep, short of Tome of Battle there is no official way to remove that 0.5 Strength Bonus Multiplier. That said, I wouldn't cry any tears to see it hand waved away via a House Rule. If Saga is any indication, it's going to be that way in 4e.

    Also, the Tempest Prestige Class would reduce Two Weapon Fighting Penalties to 0/0.
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