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    Even when things begin to go Durkula's way, the party is just better-prepared. And airing out hearts.
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    Air it out for you FTW!

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    Belkar got another turn surprisingly quickly. I'm going to chalk that to rule of funny, I think.

    Edit: Err... maybe not. We are back at the top of the initiative. V might have had a poor roll, but everyone else delayed until after V's turn, and now Belkar is back at the top, just after Elan.

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    Loki's fire burns so bright.

    That might have been an Attack of Opportunity from Belkar rather than a proper turn, too.
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    That is one awesome looking flame strike. I love the new art.
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    Poor cannon-fodder vampires in the middle, their undead HP just keeps yo-yoing.

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    Blackwing's accessorization FTW.

    If Elan had beaten DurkonT to the punch, he might have taken out all of the spawn. As it is, they more or less offset each other.
    Minrah has entered the fray, but I don't think she's dealing enough damage to take out the foes.
    Hilgya, OTOH - that looks pretty intense. Standard flame strike is 10' radius, 15d6 damage max. Empowered increase damage by 50%, so figure somewhere around 78 hit points (dex save for half). It certainly looks like DurkonT is taking full damage - he's going over backward. Braidella is also leaving her feet, and the guy in the back is dead - I think that's chair carrier, so perhaps the lowest level full vampire.
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    H: Pyromaniac? :lol:

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    Hilgya, OTOH - that looks pretty intense. Standard flame strike is 10' radius, 15d6 damage max. Empowered increase damage by 50%, so figure somewhere around 78 hit points (dex save for half). It certainly looks like DurkonT is taking full damage - he's going over backward. Braidella is also leaving her feet, and the guy in the back is dead - I think that's chair carrier, so perhaps the lowest level full vampire.
    How much does Resist Fire cancel out though?
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    Also, I like Hilgya's eyes going orange when she burns them all. Haley is firing an arrow in that same frame, so perhaps initiative order is being treated casually at the moment.
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    Man, the raven gets all the best lines!

    So, did Hilgya's flame burn so hot that it scorched the Order of the Stick as well, or is that just a shadow effect on Haley?

    Either way, I'm loving how the Order is either better prepared than Greg, or able to effectively respond to his plans and attacks. I can get used to this competence. Keep it up!

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    Hilgya/Durkon/Codurkon meeting & reactions: delayed another page. sigh.

    Still, nice to see the good guys on top of things. And Elan's approach to fighting vampires is exactly what one might have expected from him.
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    If HPoH doesn’t already realize that the OOTS has another cleric, he’ll probably start to figure it out now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Also, I like Hilgya's eyes going orange when she burns them all. Haley is firing an arrow in that same frame, so perhaps initiative order is being treated casually at the moment.
    Initiative order is always treated a bit more simultaneous than it would strictly be, but in general you can trust the Giant to not have a character taking more turns than the rest. I just had not quite realised that this is round 2 of combat, because I was expecting V to act as a marker of it - but then remembered they need not, not if everyone else delayed until V acted in round 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Also, I like Hilgya's eyes going orange when she burns them all. Haley is firing an arrow in that same frame, so perhaps initiative order is being treated casually at the moment.
    Considering Rich's past statements about the game rules, I'm assuming that initiative is now handled as a rough guideline. I approve, myself. Initiative is great for a game, but it limits storytelling options far more than most rules.
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    I love Blackwing's snarkery.
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    Noone else is going to say it?

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    I don't think there's much left in between Roy and DurkonT besides Ponchella and Braidella. Roy does not appear in this strip, and there aren't too many places he could be. Normally 3 vampire clerics against one fighter is not a fair fight - but the clerics just took massive HP damage, and the fighter has a possible-artifact level sword.

    Belkar is clearly wounded by Mass Inflict, but appears unharmed after Mass Cure, so perhaps he made his Will save against the former - which is, to say the least, unusual for Belkar.

    DurkonT's order to attack the bard just before a high level cleric walks into the room and opens a large can of whoop-ass on his vampires is another sign that he's not as on-top of things as he'd like. He keeps reacting to the Order, not getting in front of what they are doing.

    Prediction: V has at least one spell prepared allowing for a fleeing DurkonT to be stopped.
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    That Flame Strike was very satisfying to watch, and I’m sure Hilgya felt that way as well. Also, Elan and Blackwing continue to make these strips perfect.


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    Gotta have shades to throw shade, I guess.
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    That was brilliant!!

    I love how Durkon did the mass cause wounds and then Elan countered it.

    "can't handle having my heart warmed" is now a favorite line of mine ;)

    Blackwing with the shades taken,presumably, from the same place that haley gets her arrows. And Haley, simple "Fair"

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    Empowered Flame Strike takes up a level 7 spot (5 normally, +2 because it's Empowered), meaning that Hilgya is, at the very least, level 13. So far it has really been going the Order's way. I'm kind of expecting Greg to pull out some secret trick soon.

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    Team Durkula are getting their beards handed to them (singed.)
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    How much does Resist Fire cancel out though?
    Cancels 30 points max. Of course, half of a Flame Strike's damage is divine, and none of that can be resisted. Greg's really going to have to step it up if he wants to win here, since his "hurt someone at the same time" maneuver only got three enemies, one of whom can barely damage his forces anyways.
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    Correction to my earlier post: Elan is casting Mass Cure Light (d8 + caster level) while DurkonT is casting Mass Inflict Serious (3d8 + caster level), so the vampire's spell did 9 more points of negative energy than Elan's did of positive energy, plus 1 per caster level (I don't think we know if Dashing Swordsman adds to Elan's caster level).

    Therefore, unless Belkar's unwounded state is an art error, Belkar must have made his Will save against Inflict Serious. Is Death's Little Helper developing ... wisdom?
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    BTW, if we assume Hilgya has the Fire Domain, she's got Fire Storm and Incendiary Cloud left as domain spells. First does Level * D6; second does 4d6 fire damage per round and persists. The protection from fire soaks a lot of those.
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    The big question here is where is Roy. I think this whole thing is gonna hinge on Roy/Hilga v. Durkula.
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