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    Default Re: D&D 5e Subclass Contest Chat Thread

    Pilferer adjusted:

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    Hm. I like the domain so far, but Holy Brawler is a little overpowered as is. Aside from being able to add your wisdom modifier four times by only dipping a single level of the domain with a fifth level monk, it also is a pretty hefty boost to a first level character. Variant Human + Point Buy + Tavern Brawler is a potent first level character. 16 strength and wisdom gives a 1d4+6 punch and a bonus action grapple with a +8 from being proficient in athletics (the skill you pick up from being a variant human). You'll be making the barbarian look bad for the first few levels at least. I'd probably put a cap on how many times you can use it, maybe just once a turn to stop monk multiclass shenanigans at the least. Otherwise, I really like the subclass, bravo.

    And as for the ki costs of the Bar Brawlers abilities, yeah, it was just supposed to be the level three abilities and the level 13 knockout ability, which is basically the monks stunning strike with a few more restrictions and a little more oomph to it on a crit. I'll make that more clear.
    I made the improvised weapon break on the crits to make the choice of whether or not to use it a little tougher, while also encouraging the use of Take a Swipe at 'em to pick up replacement weapons. Should I extend the improvised weapon breaking to every time the ability is used instead of just crits, or should I drop the boost on crits altogether?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleeplessWriter View Post
    Hm. I like the domain so far, but Holy Brawler is a little overpowered as is. Aside from being able to add your wisdom modifier four times by only dipping a single level of the domain with a fifth level monk, it also is a pretty hefty boost to a first level character. Variant Human + Point Buy + Tavern Brawler is a potent first level character. 16 strength and wisdom gives a 1d4+6 punch and a bonus action grapple with a +8 from being proficient in athletics (the skill you pick up from being a variant human). You'll be making the barbarian look bad for the first few levels at least. I'd probably put a cap on how many times you can use it, maybe just once a turn to stop monk multiclass shenanigans at the least. Otherwise, I really like the subclass, bravo.
    Hm...the basic intention is to keep it on a curve with a weapon, and doing it in such a way that was a bit different from other options (like just upping the damage dice). I don't really consider optional rules in my creations, no matter how common they are (so none of multiclassing / variant human / feats), but in this case those are common enough that it's probably worth redoing. I'll ponder overnight. Thanks for the feedback.
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    Hey, voting starts today, doesn't it. This is going to be a hard one, there are a lot of really good choices out there.

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    Probably!

    I did tweak the Strength Domain a bit, though I think rearranging the features might've been a good idea. Mainly I'm just a little sad that Amonkhet already did one, even if it's not that good, so I needed to find different features at a spot or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivellius View Post
    Probably!

    I did tweak the Strength Domain a bit, though I think rearranging the features might've been a good idea. Mainly I'm just a little sad that Amonkhet already did one, even if it's not that good, so I needed to find different features at a spot or two.
    Did you mean to not make the unarmed attack a die roll? If I'm reading it correctly, each unarmed strike is STR + prof to attack, and deals WIS+STR damage
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    Too late! Voting thread is up now, cease edits.

    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...9#post23700219

    Two weeks, go vote!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoleMage View Post
    Too late! Voting thread is up now, cease edits.

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    Two weeks, go vote!
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    Aw, you guys!!!! I didn't know I had a nickname!!! You all are the best.

    "Evil the Cat" definitely sounds like a nickname my son would've made up for me, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogie View Post
    Did you mean to not make the unarmed attack a die roll? If I'm reading it correctly, each unarmed strike is STR + prof to attack, and deals WIS+STR damage
    I did. I'm not sure one point of damage is a die roll anyway, but this way you're overwriting Martial Arts even if you choose to use it.

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    Guys, I just realized this, but the way I worded Knockout means it'll work with ranged improvised weapons. Which means you could probably knock a dragon out of the air with a spoon... I love it.

    It probably isn't too much of a problem, though, since it is a 13th level ability and not 5th like the monk's stunning strike, but it's just something I hadn't thought about when I made the ability.
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    Only a few days left to vote on the current contest!
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    Alright everyone, our voting period has ended and it is time to tally the results!

    In 3rd place, with 7 voting points, we have SleeplessWriter's Bar Brawler Rogue. For when you really need to hit someone with, then run off with, a table.

    In 2nd place, with 8 voting points, we have Vogie's Master Hand Patron. For when your eldritch master is a giant floating hand with a propensity for playing with Nintendo figurines, and they taught you to do the same.

    In 1st place, also with 8 voting points, we have nickl_2000's Bardic College of the Luchador! Wear a mask and wrestle some baddies in style, all while talking the best trash ever seen in DnD, because you're a bard!

    The tie for 1st place was broken because Vogie did not submit a vote before the tallying of results. If he had, the next tiebreaker is number of 1st place votes. There is no third tiebreaker, the tie would have just stood in that case.

    In the voting for theme, we have a clear winner in Well, That's Fortunate and for the third consecutive contest we have a tie for runner up. Subsystems Online will pass automatically into the next voting pool yet again, while Keep it Simple, Stupid was upstaged by It Is Written for the runner-up and so look for Subsystems Online and It Is Written in the next contest's voting pool!

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    I...kind of want to do a leprechaun patron now.

    Hm, I had a bunch of DM's Guild stuff on this theme already, so nothing else immediately comes to mind. I must ponder...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivellius View Post
    I...kind of want to do a leprechaun patron now.

    Hm, I had a bunch of DM's Guild stuff on this theme already, so nothing else immediately comes to mind. I must ponder...
    I've made it my habit to try to make at least one of the suggested themes somewhat esoteric. I actually made Oath of the Sacred fist because I came up with the idea of punchadin when setting up the last contest.
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    Just posted a quick first pass (with very little flavor as of yet) of a luck-based rogue. The idea is basically that their roguish talents (sneak attack, expertise, etc) are coming not from their skill, but from unnatural levels of luck. They can spread that luck around a little bit too - granting Luck Points to their friends (and later to themselves), and while they're doing so their sneak attack damage is reduced.

    So, they get this not-quite-Bardic-Inspiration, they get Jack of All Trades by another name, and they get to speak all languages as the 13th-level mostly-a-ribbon feature (but, for flavor reasons, they're just bungling through with luck and miming, so it takes them twice as long as usual to speak).

    Beginning at 9th level they can (if they have a bonus action available every turn) give themselves a +5 bonus to their one attack every round - but, of course, that also means their sneak attack bonus is down by 5d6 (which is ALL of their sneak attack, at that level). Plus, using Luck Points doesn't let you use Sneak Attack if you couldn't already.

    Honestly I feel like this is a little underpowered, but I didn't want to just crib Bardic Inspiration completely, for this. Ah well, it's a first draft and took maybe half an hour to conception to posting. Might rewrite it entirely later.




    Also, congratulations to nickl! But, um, ouch, not a single vote for my College of the Fist. It was mechanically boring, I admit, but still, was it really that bad?
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    Lucky number 7 - seems appropriate!

    I admit to having no idea what, if anything, I'll do for this one. But, we'll see...

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    Thanks for the votes all and placing me in first . I was really hoping that the College of the Luchador would land well with others as it was a fun one to write.

    There is the first (second maybe) draft of the Barbarian Path of Dumb Luck http://www.giantitp.com/forums/shows...13&postcount=3 Feel free to throw anything my way that seems off. Although, it will have a few more revisions before I'm actually happy, and need a bunch of flavour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    Thanks for the votes all and placing me in first . I was really hoping that the College of the Luchador would land well with others as it was a fun one to write.

    There is the first (second maybe) draft of the Barbarian Path of Dumb Luck http://www.giantitp.com/forums/shows...13&postcount=3 Feel free to throw anything my way that seems off. Although, it will have a few more revisions before I'm actually happy, and need a bunch of flavour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivellius View Post
    Impact Calibration's upgrade needs to be named Percussive Maintenance, if you ask me.
    Genius. All fixed! :)

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    Gonna throw my hat into the ring with another luck based rogue, except this one is more focused on stealing luck for themselves instead of granting it to allies. Probably going to theme it as if they're stealing strands of thread from the loom of fate. Essentially dealing out a debuff with their sneak attack that fuels their self buffing and other abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theVoidWatches View Post
    Just posted a quick first pass (with very little flavor as of yet) of a luck-based rogue. The idea is basically that their roguish talents (sneak attack, expertise, etc) are coming not from their skill, but from unnatural levels of luck. They can spread that luck around a little bit too - granting Luck Points to their friends (and later to themselves), and while they're doing so their sneak attack damage is reduced.

    So, they get this not-quite-Bardic-Inspiration, they get Jack of All Trades by another name, and they get to speak all languages as the 13th-level mostly-a-ribbon feature (but, for flavor reasons, they're just bungling through with luck and miming, so it takes them twice as long as usual to speak).

    Beginning at 9th level they can (if they have a bonus action available every turn) give themselves a +5 bonus to their one attack every round - but, of course, that also means their sneak attack bonus is down by 5d6 (which is ALL of their sneak attack, at that level). Plus, using Luck Points doesn't let you use Sneak Attack if you couldn't already.

    Honestly I feel like this is a little underpowered, but I didn't want to just crib Bardic Inspiration completely, for this. Ah well, it's a first draft and took maybe half an hour to conception to posting. Might rewrite it entirely later.




    Also, congratulations to nickl! But, um, ouch, not a single vote for my College of the Fist. It was mechanically boring, I admit, but still, was it really that bad?
    First of all, thanks.

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    Luck Points - This definitely needs to have
    you may grant a number of Luck Points less than or equal to your Charisma modifier (minimum 1)
    on there. Since charisma is sometimes a dump stat for rogues, you would need at least that. Also, at what point are you allowed to spend them? Before you roll, after but before you know the results?

    Luck in all Trades - For some reason I feel like this should be something like I'd rather be lucky than good and instead of give half-proficiency have it give a bonus die whenever you roll something you aren't proficient (that grows as you level). That way there is still a chance aspect in how much you get. But that is just a feeling for me.

    Fool's Luck - I'm not sure why you wouldn't spend your bonus action almost every turn here to give yourself charisma mod luck points (say 3), then give yourself +6 to hit on your attack and not lose out on any damage. They would be pretty brutal to bounded accuracy.

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    No no, I always want feedback!

    Luck Points - This definitely needs to have
    you may grant a number of Luck Points less than or equal to your Charisma modifier (minimum 1)
    on there. Since charisma is sometimes a dump stat for rogues, you would need at least that. Also, at what point are you allowed to spend them? Before you roll, after but before you know the results?
    Good catch, fixed up.

    Luck in all Trades - For some reason I feel like this should be something like I'd rather be lucky than good and instead of give half-proficiency have it give a bonus die whenever you roll something you aren't proficient (that grows as you level). That way there is still a chance aspect in how much you get. But that is just a feeling for me.
    You're right, that is much more thematic. I'll start it at a d4 and let it upgrade to a d6 and then d8, every ~7 levels.

    Fool's Luck - I'm not sure why you wouldn't spend your bonus action almost every turn here to give yourself charisma mod luck points (say 3), then give yourself +6 to hit on your attack and not lose out on any damage. They would be pretty brutal to bounded accuracy.
    I think you may be misunderstanding. It's not a +1 for every individual Luck Point you spend, it's a +1 each time you spend them in general - and you can't spend them in bits and pieces. So if you spend 3 Luck Points each time, you're getting a +4 each time, not a +6. Similarly, the +1d6 damage is after the reduction for Luck Points being spent, so in this 3 Luck Points a turn scenario, you're still dropping your Sneak Attack damage by 2d6.
    So, what this actually does is you can spend your bonus action every turn to give yourself 1 Luck Point and then spend your reaction to get a +2 to attack if you need it, without sacrificing any Sneak Attack damage (if you haven't given any Luck to your friends, that is).

    Which, written out like that, seems kind of weak in comparison's to the Assassin's "I'm gonna deal quadruple damage this time" and the thief's "I'm gonna steal the fighter's Action Surge for this first round". Spending your Bonus Action and reaction for a measly +2? I might change the damage thing to "You gain +1 damage to your weapon attacks for each Luck Point you are currently granting" instead, and maybe let the additional +1 apply to anyone who spends the Luck Points you're giving them.
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    I had to take a break from the forums for a while, so sorry I didn't participate anymore in the last contest

    I saw the theme yesterday, though, and I was struck with a bit of inspiration. I hope my vision came through in the Paladin: Oath of Fortune. There's obviously some references to The Gambler in it I considered a gambler bard, but decided I liked the tenets being lyrics better. I also considered a wizard who used transmutation to make lucky charms, but couldn't think of enough good features for it.

    I'd also like to review things again soon, once there are some more submissions up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icecaster View Post
    I had to take a break from the forums for a while, so sorry I didn't participate anymore in the last contest

    I saw the theme yesterday, though, and I was struck with a bit of inspiration. I hope my vision came through in the Paladin: Oath of Fortune. There's obviously some references to The Gambler in it I considered a gambler bard, but decided I liked the tenets being lyrics better. I also considered a wizard who used transmutation to make lucky charms, but couldn't think of enough good features for it.

    I'd also like to review things again soon, once there are some more submissions up.
    Looks cool, I will try and give feedback tomorrow sometime. The first thing I was thinking about for this was a two-face type Paladin character, with the oath of chance. I just couldn't figure out how to make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickl_2000 View Post
    Looks cool, I will try and give feedback tomorrow sometime. The first thing I was thinking about for this was a two-face type Paladin character, with the oath of chance. I just couldn't figure out how to make it work.
    I'd tie it in with the Channel Divinities. Since you can only use one by default anyway, it's basically a 50/50 chance as to which one you may need. Then just tie in some kind of long-term benefit that is associated with that "face"

    Some ideas:

    Life: As a Bonus Action, you emit an aura of holy pacification. To you and creatures adjacent to you, damage dealt and received is halved. This benefit lasts 1 minute.
    vs.
    Death: As a Bonus Action, you emit an aura of inevitable mortality. For the next minute, you and creatures within 15 feet reroll all damage they receive, keeping the higher of the two rolls.

    Level 7: When a creature within 10 feet of you dies, or is hit by a Critical Hit, you gain Temporary Hitpoints equal to half of your Paladin level and regain the use of your Channel Divinity.
    At 18th level, this extends to 30 feet.

    And then just tack on some high level stuff that makes sense.
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    I'd tie it in with the Channel Divinities. Since you can only use one by default anyway, it's basically a 50/50 chance as to which one you may need. Then just tie in some kind of long-term benefit that is associated with that "face"

    Some ideas:

    Life: As a Bonus Action, you emit an aura of holy pacification. To you and creatures adjacent to you, damage dealt and received is halved. This benefit lasts 1 minute.
    vs.
    Death: As a Bonus Action, you emit an aura of inevitable mortality. For the next minute, you and creatures within 15 feet reroll all damage they receive, keeping the higher of the two rolls.

    Level 7: When a creature within 10 feet of you dies, or is hit by a Critical Hit, you gain Temporary Hitpoints equal to half of your Paladin level and regain the use of your Channel Divinity.
    At 18th level, this extends to 30 feet.

    And then just tack on some high level stuff that makes sense.
    Interesting, I will have to mull it over and let it run around in my head for a future homebrew. I like the idea of a Paladin based on two face, he really is committed to his tenants (even when it is detrimental to himself). It really would fit into a chaotic neutral subclass.

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    Oath of Fortune Spells - I'm not sure on a few of the spells.
    Shield - seems like it is to powerful and to easy to get it.
    and there are a bunch of other ones that didn't seem to fit in to me. I know when I was starting the Oath of Luck I looked at these spells myself.
    Oath of Luck Spells
    3rd - Bane, Bless
    5th - Aid, Mirror Image
    9th - Bestow Curse, Remove Curse
    13th - Compulsion, Death Ward
    17th - Contagion, Mislead

    Shield of Fortune. - Consider that the way this is written you can use this, shield of faith, and shield. So by level 3 you are looking at a possible AC of 24 (splint +shield+defensive fighting style+ shield of faith + divinity) and then you can use a shield spell to get to 29 if you need it. This is almost silly powerful even at higher levels
    Lucky Break - I might actually adjust this to be a 1d10 or 1d12. It makes it more chancy, but I don't think it is broken as is.

    Fortune’s Favored - This is pretty unusual for a Paladin. It's a common design pattern with the X's and PhB Paladins to give oath spells and channel divinity at level 3. I would drop this entirely personally.

    Kismet - Okay, completely gut feeling here. However I'm worried that this would break the bounded accuracy model and you would never again fail a saving throw in your carrier. I would look at some other level 1 spells that would be fitting. Detect Poison and Disease, Expeditious Retreat, or do something else entirely. Maybe take the halfing luck skill?

    Perfect Luck - Look to tone this down some. The crit point seems powerful but fine. The +3 to AC combined with your other skills and spells is a little much, and an automatic roll of 12 seems like a little much. Maybe if you change out the shield spell and shield of fortune you can just do the +3 to AC and increased crit chance.




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    Twist of Fate: There is a little awkwardness in the description of how you regain this ability. It took a few readings. The only problem I see with it is enemies having disadvantage when you are attacked. I know your AC will only be 15 (or 17 with a multiclass where you can get a shield), but it still feels off to me.

    Predicted Spell - An interesting ability here. I feel like it should have a cost of a reaction to do it. That way you can only do it once per turn. That being said, is 2 SP enough to be able to force a failed save on a spell? My gut says it would be better as a reaction and costing 3 SP, but feel free to ignore my gut on this one.

    Quantum Feedback - I'm confused on how this one works. When you use the reaction you target the person who hit you and do no damage to them with the spell? I think this one needs some clarity on how it works and what it does.

    Chosen Outcome - Likely very powerful, but at level 18 it should be.





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    Expanded Spell List
    Crusader's Mantle is a 3rd level spell, but put into the second level slot. Was that intentional?

    Destiny’s Curse - Not sure why you have the "you can use this feature after you see the roll....". From reading the rest of the ability it appears that you use a bonus action and then it automatically applies. If that is the case, that isn't needed at all. From an ability perspective I really like this. It's powerful and gives you an active thing to do. However, it will be very, very swingy (which is very fitting for the subclass).

    Fortune’s Blessing - You can remove the "a willing creature part" I don't think any creature will ever be not willing to get hit less or get better saves. Although it is a little weirdly phrased in that is reduces the attack roll of someone against the person you used it on. I may actually have it add 1d8 to the AC so that the person you use it on is always the one that is effected.

    Fate’s Servant - Is this supposed to be Destiny's curse? You have "Whenever a creature affected by your Destiny’s Blessing feature"

    Doom’s Verdict - I actually think this in underpowered for a capstone. You are giving advantage on all attack rolls against a creature for 1 round only. I would either increase the amount of uses to be based on charisma or make it last charisma mod rounds instead of one.





    Phew, I think I am caught up

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    Expanded Spell List
    Crusader's Mantle is a 3rd level spell, but put into the second level slot. Was that intentional?

    Destiny’s Curse - Not sure why you have the "you can use this feature after you see the roll....". From reading the rest of the ability it appears that you use a bonus action and then it automatically applies. If that is the case, that isn't needed at all. From an ability perspective I really like this. It's powerful and gives you an active thing to do. However, it will be very, very swingy (which is very fitting for the subclass).

    Fortune’s Blessing - You can remove the "a willing creature part" I don't think any creature will ever be not willing to get hit less or get better saves. Although it is a little weirdly phrased in that is reduces the attack roll of someone against the person you used it on. I may actually have it add 1d8 to the AC so that the person you use it on is always the one that is effected.

    Fate’s Servant - Is this supposed to be Destiny's curse? You have "Whenever a creature affected by your Destiny’s Blessing feature"

    Doom’s Verdict - I actually think this in underpowered for a capstone. You are giving advantage on all attack rolls against a creature for 1 round only. I would either increase the amount of uses to be based on charisma or make it last charisma mod rounds instead of one.



    Thanks for the feedback. I honestly did not notice that about Crusader's mantle. I'll probably replace it with enhance ability. Does that fit the subclass's identity enough, do you think?

    Yes, it is supposed to be be Destiny's curse, I'll fix that along with the other typos and phrasing and such.

    AC instead of attack rolls sounds like a good idea.

    Would the capstone be more balanced if it also gave disadvantage to saves but stayed the same duration.
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