OOTS #1123 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Puschkin]

Woah, not looking good! Espeically that important heal getting disrupted. I have no idea how they are supposed to get out of this. Then again I don't know much about D&D rules. Do they have a chance to shake it off each round?

[dmc91356]

Awesome - Belkar bonus interpretation!

[Doug Lampert]

New comic is up.

She would have carried an extra string, but her bags of holding were all full of treasure.

Edited to add:

Woah, not looking good! Espeically that important heal getting disrupted. I have no idea how they are supposed to get out of this. Then again I don't know much about D&D rules. Do they have a chance to shake it off each round?

They have a chance to shake it off when given an order they find sufficiently objectionable.

Subjects resist this control, and any subject forced to take actions against its nature receives a new saving throw with a +2 bonus. Obviously self-destructive orders are not carried out. Once control is established, the range at which it can be exercised is unlimited, as long as you and the subject are on the same plane. You need not see the subject to control it.

[Sarbos]

Awesome - Belkar bonus interpretation!

Belkar "protecting" V?

[WoodStock_PV]

When I saw the title I laughed a little as I just had read a menage à 3 strip.. ^^'
Anyways.. great comic giant! Things truly are getting dire. I don't know how the order is gonna make it, but I hope everyone survives this one. O_O

[SavageWombat]

Interesting with Belkar. Once again, though, my mind boggles at how Rich is going to get them out of this.

[Jay R]

Love Belkar's motivation. And Roy taking Haley out of the fight for a few rounds without hurting her.

[2D8HP]

♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
Belkar and Vaarsuvius sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S....
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫

I knew the Halfling doth protest too much!

"Ears"

More like "dear"

Ship-tastic!

(By Crom this stuff is infectious)

[Cicciograna]

When I saw the title I laughed a little as I just had read a menage à 3 strip.. ^^'

Yeah, I also had a bit of crossover impression

[CoffeeIncluded]

Hm, I wonder if Belkar breaking the domination will be the key here. The vampire knows of the conversation durkon and V had. As far as he knows, Belkar despises V and would never protect them. And he might have only heard the other vampire gloating about how Belkar barely needed a push to attack Minrah.

[2D8HP]

Why has Durkula/Greg/The-Corpse-formerly-known-as-Durkon turned his back?

Is he leaving Ponchella/Ponchola/Ponchula behind?

I hate that guy!

YOU COULD DO BETTER DARK LADY!

[Roger_Druid]

Hi all!

I couldn't resist writing something since it'll be first page! Also, I'm delighted that Hilgya, even in her swirly status, casts 'Flame Strike' (I guess), while protecting the eyes of her child... I think that Roy could use that fact to turn the tables!

Roger

P.S. Oh, in Greece its 10 to 10 (pm)

[Stabbey]

Why has Durkula/Greg/The-Corpse-formerly-known-as-Durkon turned his back?

Is he leaving Ponchella/Ponchola/Ponchula behind?

I hate that guy!

YOU COULD DO BETTER DARK LADY!

He's picking his chair back up, all the better to sit in it and gloat.

I assume that any spells mid-cast when a concentration check is cast are lost.

[Anarion]

Hmm, that looks pretty tough. They at least managed to take out most of the vampires first (including a couple of the clerics), so if Roy can sort out the sudden turnaround of most of the party here due to domination gaze, they might be able to still do well against Durkula. I'm still surprised he was able to dominate so many people so quickly though. I guess Roy is the only one with a good will save or any luck.

[jokem]

Well, so much for V casting Magic Circle vs Evil.

Roy needs to shame Hilgya for taking orders from Undead, that might give her another save, and with her estimated will save, that ought to give her a chance to start going wild with the wand, or maybe even Magic Circle vs Law? If so, lets hope Durkula and his crew do not have more Dispel Magic available.

[jokem]

Hmm, that looks pretty tough. They at least managed to take out most of the vampires first (including a couple of the clerics), so if Roy can sort out the sudden turnaround of most of the party here due to domination gaze, they might be able to still do well against Durkula. I'm still surprised he was able to dominate so many people so quickly though. I guess Roy is the only one with a good will save or any luck.

Roy and V are still protected by the Mind Blank. Roy managed to break Durkula's Domination Gaze before though.

What confuses me is how the Dispel Magic cascade managed to undo V's Overland Flight but not the Mind Blank. Both have the same caster level?

[tufttugger]

Hmm, that looks pretty tough. They at least managed to take out most of the vampires first (including a couple of the clerics), so if Roy can sort out the sudden turnaround of most of the party here due to domination gaze, they might be able to still do well against Durkula. I'm still surprised he was able to dominate so many people so quickly though. I guess Roy is the only one with a good will save or any luck.

Roy's sword protects him mostly I think.

Haley may have slippery mind and could get a second check.

But yeah, best bet is that they break free when they are ordered to do something against their nature.

Also, with dispel, it's luck of the roll which spell goes down. Plus we don't know if they did area effect or targeted dispels. Big difference.

[40kenthusiast]

Oh No! This is a dire development!

[ajp1011]

Roy and V are still protected by the Mind Blank. Roy managed to break Durkula's Domination Gaze before though.

What confuses me is how the Dispel Magic cascade managed to undo V's Overland Flight but not the Mind Blank. Both have the same caster level?

Mind Blank is lvl 8 Overland Flight is Lvl 5

[Monday]

Roy and V are still protected by the Mind Blank. Roy managed to break Durkula's Domination Gaze before though.

What confuses me is how the Dispel Magic cascade managed to undo V's Overland Flight but not the Mind Blank. Both have the same caster level?

Can dispel magic work on objects in bags of holding too? Wondering if Bloodfeast's room just got a lot more crowded.

[Herr Doktor]

This reminds me why I hate fighting vampires ... from 1st ed to 5th, DMs always use the charm gaze attack. Sigh.

[JT]

Probably more a "general" question than specifically about this strip, but do we know what Greg's belt does (I assume its glow is indicative of "magic" ... it's been going on for a while (at least), so it's not some recent spell-casting, I don't think).





"The heroes always prevail... The heroes always prevail.. The heroes -always- prevail..."

[D.One]

Well, this answers if Haley could or could not sneak attack V or Roy in her first attack against them. She could.

Now we also know Hylgia had another (not empowered this time) Flame Strike prepared. Let's keep counting spells.

One less Spawn.

And what the Greg's Boss is Elan doing?

[LunarDrop]

♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
Belkar and Vaarsuvius sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S....
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫

I knew the Halfling doth protest too much!

"Ears"

More like "dear"

Ship-tastic!

(By Crom this stuff is infectious)

Glad to see I'm not the only one who ships it.

[kraitmarais]

I'm still surprised he was able to dominate so many people so quickly though.

It wasn't just Durkula dominating them. Four people are dominated, and the art in strip 1122 shows three uses of the gaze; two are from Durkula, one from the long-haired vamp, and the fourth must have been from a vamp off-panel.

[137beth]

OH SNAPping bow string!

[Bluepaw]

Have we ever seen Vaarsuvius at 0 hp before??

[The Pilgrim]

Repairing that +4 bow is gonna be costly, Roy. Haley is totally going to ask you to increase her share of the loot. Better you would have just knocked her out, man.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

That does not look so good for Vaarsuvius.

Also, can someone with a little more D&D knowledge tell me if bowstrings are an actual thing, is is this more like how Haley never runs out of arrows?