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    Really, the title says it all. Besides a high charisma or the feat "extra turning," is there any way of getting more turning attempts per day?
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    Nightsticks, an item from Libris Mortis, give extra turning attempts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yango View Post
    Nightsticks, an item from Libris Mortis, give extra turning attempts.
    These, however, can be seen as excessively cheesy, particularly in combination with Divine Metamagic.
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    Default Re: Ways of getting extra turning

    There's also some domains that grant extra turning (or turning of elementals and so forth, if you're interested in that). Also, I've seen a build where one's cohort could "transfer" turn attempts to the "main" character.

    And yes, nightsticks are made of cheese.

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    Yes, you'll pick up a number of additional turning attempts with any of the elemental domains. (Fire, Air, etc.).

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    Multiclassing always gives you another set of "3+Cha" turnings to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto View Post
    Multiclassing always gives you another set of "3+Cha" turnings to play with.
    How so? Cleric/Paladin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Iames Osari View Post
    How so? Cleric/Paladin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditto View Post
    Multiclassing always gives you another set of "3+Cha" turnings to play with.
    Actually, no it does not. Turning levels stack, not add additional attempts.
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    A cloak of charisma give a bonus to charisma; therefore, it gives you more turn attempts.

    And, as it was stated before, the elemental domains. Don't forget, if you have more than one sorce of turn attempts, you get more of a bang out of the Extra Turning feat.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNexx View Post
    Actually, no it does not. Turning levels stack, not add additional attempts.
    Can you cite where is says that for me? I want to read the exact wording.
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    Reliquary Holy Symbol (MIC page 120, 1000 gp). It gives an extra TU attempt for each of these prerequisites you meet:
    - at least divine feat
    - at lest 5 ranks in Knowledge Religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quietus View Post
    These, however, can be seen as excessively cheesy, particularly in combination with Divine Metamagic.
    Divine Metamagic MAKES anything to do with turning cheesy, not just Nightsticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drider View Post
    cleric 1/cloistered cleric 1?
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    Take the Radiant Servant of Pelor class. It'll effectively double your turn attempts, half of which you can use on divine feats and the other half you can use to utter destroy most low HD undead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justyn View Post
    Can you cite where is says that for me? I want to read the exact wording.
    You know what, it doesn't specifically say that in the SRD, and I can't find it in the books, either. I may have been interpreting an old house rule, which just stacked levels, as part of the rules.
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    Um... I don't think the elemental domains give you extra turning *attempts*, they just allow you to turn opposing elementals and rebuke aligned ones.

    Cast a persistent Empowered Eagle's Splendor. That's up to +7 charisma which counts for turning attempts. Wear +charisma items, cast your metamagic and remove them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justyn View Post
    A cloak of charisma give a bonus to charisma; therefore, it gives you more turn attempts.

    And, as it was stated before, the elemental domains. Don't forget, if you have more than one sorce of turn attempts, you get more of a bang out of the Extra Turning feat.



    Can you cite where is says that for me? I want to read the exact wording.
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    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/paladin.htm
    When a paladin reaches 4th level, she gains the supernatural ability to turn undead. She may use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + her Charisma modifier. She turns undead as a cleric of three levels lower would.

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/multiclass.htm
    In the special case of turning undead, both clerics and experienced paladins have the same ability. If the character’s paladin level is 4th or higher, her effective turning level is her cleric level plus her paladin level minus 3.

    Notice that it stacks both class levels, so one can assume that you gain the basic "3+Cha bonus" only once. It's like a ranger/druid or a wizard/sorcerer that stacks their classes levels to determine their companion, or familiar abilities, instead of getting 2. You can argue with your DM to give you more attempts, but as it's written, you doesn't seems to get more uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renx View Post
    Um... I don't think the elemental domains give you extra turning *attempts*, they just allow you to turn opposing elementals and rebuke aligned ones.

    Cast a persistent Empowered Eagle's Splendor. That's up to +7 charisma which counts for turning attempts. Wear +charisma items, cast your metamagic and remove them.
    Eagle's splendor and + charisma items usually have the same type of bonus (like a cloak of charisma, unless you set the bonus as untyped or things like a sacred or profane bonus, they will not stack, so cloak of charisma/eagle's splendor do not stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hario View Post
    Eagle's splendor and + charisma items usually have the same type of bonus (like a cloak of charisma, unless you set the bonus as untyped or things like a sacred or profane bonus, they will not stack, so cloak of charisma/eagle's splendor do not stack
    True enough. Also, you don't even need to make it persistent.
    A bard, eh? What's your saving throw against things that don't get a saving throw?
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