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    Default Junkyard Wars XIX: IB + EWM - SC

    Welcome to Junkyard Stadium! It is in this hallowed pile of miscellaneous parts that we will hold a competition of Practical Optimization with three components. The catch? Competitors may not use the third item in their builds!

    Goal: Create a build that showcases the selected ingredients while steering clear of the Forbidden Ingredient.


    This competition has two Necessary Components and one Forbidden Component. This round's components are...

    • Necessary: Incarnum Blade PrC (from Magic of Incarnum p.121)
    • Necessary: Exotic Weapon Master PrC (from Complete Warrior p.30)
    • Forbidden: Spiked Chains



    Contestants:

    The rules are as follows:
    • Creation: 32 point-buy is the presumed creation method. You may assume that you will have enough exp to reach ECL 20, and that the occasional bit of crafting, use of spells with exp components, or the like won't prevent you from doing so. However, LA buyoff is an alternate rule which is not in play.
    • Workshop: Competitors will be free to use any official 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon Magazine is disallowed, and Unearthed Arcana is allowed; but see below. Web-exclusive 3.0 or 3.5 materials by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere as this may cause an Elegance deduction at the judges' discretion. If you use web material, please link it. Dragon Magazine Compendium is allowed, as are Oriental Adventures and the Dragonlance Campaign Setting. Alternate rule systems from UA such as gestalt and fractional saves are not allowed, as they create a different playing field.
    • Speculation: Please don't post or speculate on possible builds until after the reveal in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
    • Disputes: Any scoring disputes should be sent to the Chair via PM. Valid disputes include RAW misreadings, arithmetic errors, things missed that are present in the entry, and inconsistently applied criteria. Invalid disputes include disagreements on matters of opinion, a judge not catching something not explicitly presented in the entry, and the like. Invalid disputes will be responded to via PM by the Chair, but valid disputes will be posted in-thread for the judge to review. When disputing, please indicate the judge the dispute is intended for and provide a quote of the disputed comment or comments. Note: the Chair may edit or paraphrase any disputes in presenting them to the judges.
    • Leadership is banned: We're creating one thing, not all of the things. If your entry includes a prestige class or ACF that grants Leadership or a Leadership-like ability as a bonus feat, the feat should be ignored and is not eligible to be traded away for another feat or ACF through any means.
    • Presentation: You will need to present a write-up of your build at at least one of the following points: 5th level, 10th level, 15th, 20th, and a "sweet spot" that you feel is the high point of the build, as well as presenting a fully-fleshed out 20-level build in the table below. Please give a rundown of the build's abilities and playability throughout its life. Builds will be posted anonymously, in order to avoid the potential of bias towards a particular competitor. For this reason, please don't put your name in the build as I'm likely to miss it when reviewing the entries. Also for this reason, PLEASE do not include any material that may or may not offend any potential viewers/judges/competitors OR break forum rules. Any builds which violate forum rules WILL be withheld from posting.

    Due to concerns about standardizing entry format, please use the following table for their entry.
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    NAME OF ENTRY
    Level Class Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Skills Feats Class Features
    1st New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    2nd New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    3rd New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    4th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    5th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    6th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    7th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    8th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    9th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    10th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    11th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    12th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    13th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    14th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    15th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    16th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    17th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    18th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    19th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    20th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities

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    [tr]
    [th][B]Level[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Class[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Base Attack Bonus[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Fort Save[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Ref Save[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Will Save[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Skills[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Feats[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Class Features[/B][/th]
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    [tr]
    [td]1st[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]2nd[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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    [tr]
    [td]3rd[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
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    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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    [td]4th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
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    [td]5th[/td]
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    [td]6th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
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    [td]7th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
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    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]8th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]9th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
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    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]10th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]11th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]12th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]13th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]14th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]15th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]16th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]17th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]18th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]19th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]20th[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [/table]
    For entries with spellcasting, use the following table for Spells per day and Spells Known. (Spells Known only if necessary, i.e. Sorcerer or Bard, but not Wizard or Warmage)
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    Spells per Day/Spells Known
    Level 0lvl 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th
    1st - - - - - - - - - -
    2nd - - - - - - - - - -
    3rd - - - - - - - - - -
    4th - - - - - - - - - -
    5th - - - - - - - - - -
    6th - - - - - - - - - -
    7th - - - - - - - - - -
    8th - - - - - - - - - -
    9th - - - - - - - - - -
    10th - - - - - - - - - -
    11th - - - - - - - - - -
    12th - - - - - - - - - -
    13th - - - - - - - - - -
    14th - - - - - - - - - -
    15th - - - - - - - - - -
    16th - - - - - - - - - -
    17th - - - - - - - - - -
    18th - - - - - - - - - -
    19th - - - - - - - - - -
    20th - - - - - - - - - -
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    [B]Spells per Day/Spells Known[/B]
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    [tr]
    [th][B]Level[/B][/th]
    [th][B]0lvl[/B][/th]
    [th][B]1st[/B][/th]
    [th][B]2nd[/B][/th]
    [th][B]3rd[/B][/th]
    [th][B]4th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]5th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]6th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]7th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]8th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]9th[/B][/th]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]1st[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]2nd[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]3rd[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [td]-[/td]
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    [td]-[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]4th[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [td]-[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]5th[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]6th[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]7th[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [td]-[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]8th[/td]
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    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]9th[/td]
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    [td]10th[/td]
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    [/tr]
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    [td]11th[/td]
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    [/tr]
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    [td]12th[/td]
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    [/tr]
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    [td]13th[/td]
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    [td]14th[/td]
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    [td]15th[/td]
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    [td]18th[/td]
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    [td]19th[/td]
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    [td]20th[/td]
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    [td]-[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
    [/tr]
    [/table]
    For other systems (Psionics, ToB, Incarnum, etc.) keep track of PP/maneuvers/essentia separately, preferably in a nice neat list.

    Judges:

    • Scoring: Each judge is required to provide the criteria by which they are judging the builds. By "criteria," we mean a simple explanation of what the judge is looking for in each of the below categories and what kind of scoring we can expect. If a judge deems a build to be illegal, they may provide a 0 in Elegance but may not refuse to judge any build presented by the Chairman.
    • The Categories: Judging will be based on the following criteria, with each build rated from 1 (very poor) to 5 (exemplary) in each area: Originality, Power, Elegance, Use of Components.

      • Originality: Is the build unique? Does it deviate from the obvious? Does it forge its own path, or does it fall back on common, established optimization tricks? Some judges score entries for the quality of their concept & backstory as well, though not all do. Providing at least some backstory is heavily encouraged, as it helps the judges figure out who the entry is. Note that the purpose of this category is not to penalize entries that independently came up with the same idea as another entry, but rather to reward entries that explore underutilized and non-obvious areas of optimization, so, judges, try not to base your judging in this category too heavily on what other builds are doing. Multiple entries using the same element may certainly be evidence that the element is unoriginal, but you shouldn't impose anything like a "-1 for each other build using the same class" penalty.
      • Power: Power level is up to you. Cheese is acceptable, but should be kept to a sane level unless you're showcasing a new TO build you've discovered. In the words of one of my predecessors, a little cheddar can be nice, but avoid the mature Gruyere unless you're making a cheese fondue.
      • Elegance: This category was formerly titled "Build Stability." Here, we're essentially measuring how skillfully you put your build together and how you balanced flavor with power. We're cooking here - if your dish doesn't taste good, it doesn't matter how well-presented it is. Use of flaws is an automatic loss of one point per flaw in this category. Other things that will cause lost points here are excessive multiclassing (meaning any multiclassing that results in an xp penalty), and classes that don't fit the concept - using Cloistered Cleric in a front-line melee fighter, for example, may lose you points. Rule adherence and legality of sources is scored under this category; additionally, reliance on a questionable, controversial, or ambiguous ruling can and should result in a deduction. Neither the number of sources nor their relative obscurity should be penalized--contestants should feel free to use any books they like. Dipping should not be penalized unless it results in a multiclass xp penalty; if the system won't penalize it, neither should judges.
      • Use of Components: Was the Forbidden Component avoided? Were the Necessary Components showcased, or simply used because they were necessary?
    • Disputes: Any scoring disputes will be posted by the Chairman in-thread after reviewing them privately. Valid disputes include
      • RAW misreadings,
      • arithmetic errors,
      • things missed that are present in the entry,
      • and inconsistently applied criteria.

      Invalid disputes include
      • disagreements on matters of opinion,
      • a judge not catching something not explicitly presented in the entry,
      • and the like.

      Invalid disputes will be responded to via PM by the Chair, but valid disputes should be responded to by each individual judge. Judges are obligated to respond to disputes to ensure that everyone gets a fair shake. A judge's scores will only be recognized if they have recognized all disputes. In the absence of any other judges, the entries will be judged by the chairman.


    Completion Time:
    • Contestants will have until 20:59 PM CST Wednesday July 18, 2018 to create their builds and PM them to the chairman.
    • Builds will then be posted simultaneously to avoid copying.
    • Judges will have until 20:59 PM CST Wednesday August 1st, 2018 to judge the builds and submit their scores. Judging deadline is subject to extension as required.
    • As the precedent has been set from Episode 2, should all prospective judges have posted their rulings in a neat, timely fashion and all disputes have been settled satisfactorily (to either judges, contestants, or the Chairperson), the judging period may end prematurely to give way to a new episode. No reason to keep working on a finished building and avoid moving onto the next one.


    Looking for as many contestants and judges as feel like playing! We will award 1st through 3rd places, as well as a shout-out for honorable mention. The honorable mention prize is given to the most daring or unexpected build that doesn't gain a medal. Contestants are invited to vote for honorable mention via PM. Everyone else can vote in-thread. Ready? Set? Get to the junkyard and start building!

    Previous Competitions:
    1. Junkyard Wars in the Playground I: Shadowdancer + Sneak Attack - Rogue
    2. Junkyard Wars in the Playground II: Healing Spells + Ruby Knight Vindicator - Cleric
    3. Junkyard Wars in the Playground III: Dragons + Theurges - Kobolds
    4. Junkyard Wars in the Playground IV: BoED + Undead Type - Completes
    5. Junkyard Wars in the Playground V: Dread Witch + Reaping Mauler - Fighter
    6. Junkyard Wars in the Playground VI: Wonderworker + Profession Skill - Factotum
    7. Junkyard Wars in the Playground VII: Metamagic Feats + LA - Metamagic Reducers!
    8. Junkyard Wars in the Playground VIII: Pounce+Small Size-Barbarian
    9. Junkyard Wars in the Playground IX: Earth Dreamer + Ordained Champion - Cleric
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    Current round specific FAQ:
    1. Can we get a chair ruling on how "Uncanny Blow" works?
      For this competition, we will consider the two sentences of the Uncanny Blow ability to be meant to be read continuously. In other words, both sentences refer to using an exotic one-handed melee weapon with two hands. So, when a character with Uncanny Blow wields an exotic one-handed melee weapon (with which s/he is proficient and has the appropriate Weapon Focus feat) in two hands, s/he adds twice the Strength damage and, if s/he also has the Power Attack feat, treats the weapon as two-handed. (i.e. Option #1 in Darren's post below.)
      I won't go into specifics (in order to avoid speculation), but do note that this is different from what's mentioned in the Power Attack feat itself, if only slightly.
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    So much for starting us out with a softball.

    I'd like to say that the idea of having 12 levels to play around with aside from the featured ingredients is a decision I heartily support.

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    I feel proud of myself for figuring out two of the three abbreviations.

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    EWM - SC is a delightful challenge. Incarnum Blade amounts to 5 levels that we have to set on fire, but hey. I'll see if I can put something together.

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    Interesting. Incarnum is one of the subsytems I'm not very good on, but I may read up and get an entry in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Interesting. Incarnum is one of the subsytems I'm not very good on, but I may read up and get an entry in.
    Well, never you fret, because incarnum blade really has nothing to do with incarnum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Interesting. Incarnum is one of the subsytems I'm not very good on, but I may read up and get an entry in.
    Worry not! Incarnum Blade isn't really Incarnum, or indeed much of anything at all. The Blademeld feature only bears passing resemblance to actual soulmelds.

    EDIT: Hah, beat me to it almost verbatim.
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    I have seen someone attempt to use Incarnum Blade exactly once. It was, well, pretty much as awful as it looks.

    So your blademeld (wretched name) explicitly does not close the body slot you “bind” it to. Does that mean that you can still have an actual soulmeld there? Your blademeld doesn’t grant the ability to shape or bind real soulmelds, but if you have that ability already, does the blademeld interfere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaq View Post
    I have seen someone attempt to use Incarnum Blade exactly once. It was, well, pretty much as awful as it looks.

    So your blademeld (wretched name) explicitly does not close the body slot you “bind” it to. Does that mean that you can still have an actual soulmeld there? Your blademeld doesn’t grant the ability to shape or bind real soulmelds, but if you have that ability already, does the blademeld interfere?
    Did he lose a bet?

    Correct. Yes, if you have the ability to bind a soulmeld there from some other source (since incarnum blade DOESN'T LET YOU BIND ANYTHING) then you can bind it to the chakra you've got your blademeld (ugh) bound to. The writer clearly didn't actually read the rest of the book, he just used some of the terminology. No, the blademeld does not interfere.
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    Can we get a chair ruling on how "Uncanny Blow" works? More specifically, this sentence:

    "If he has the Power Attack feat, he treats the weapon as two-handed for purposes of determining his bonus on damage rolls."

    It's not clear if this sentence is referring to the first (which discusses gripping an exotic one-handed weapon in two hands), or if it's a separate effect entirely.

    Option 1) It is referring to the first sentence, and is thus pointlessly redundant, because gripping a one-handed weapon with two hands is *already* treated as a two-handed weapon due to the text in Power Attack.

    Option 2) It refers to any instance where the owner is gripping any one-handed exotic weapon and also has the Power Attack feat. This allows a one-handed exotic weapon gripped in one hand to be treated as two-handed for damage purposes.

    As some of you can no doubt imagine, Option 2) is more interesting.

    If we go with Option 2), however, there is an additional wrinkle... since one-handed exotic weapons + Power Attack = treat as two-handed, what is the Str damage multiplier? Normally this would be x1.0, but now that they are gripped two-handed, it should be x1.5... and now that it's x1.5, the first sentence of "Uncanny Blow" should now make it x2.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin View Post
    Can we get a chair ruling on how "Uncanny Blow" works?
    You most certainly can! And thanks for asking. The question (and answer) has been added to this round's FAQ (see the second post of the thread.)
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    I'm very confused by Blademeld Chakra Bind , being almost entirely unfamiliar with chakra binds and Incarnum in general. Can I utilize this class feature without some external source of charka binding, or not?

    Sorry if this is a blindingly obviously question, or was already answered above, but quite frankly Incarnum in general confuses me greatly.

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    Incarnum Blade has approximately zero overlap with the general incarnum system. It appropriates some of the terminology (which is probably a source of confusion for you!), but it uses basically nothing of the mechanics. Like, at all.

    The "binds" talked about in the blademeld section (I cannot get over how dumb a name "blademeld" is!) have, so far as I can tell, no interaction with actual soulmelds or your actual chakras.

    It's basically easier to think of it as just a list of abilities that you can pick from. There's no connection to the chakra slots themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaq View Post
    It's basically easier to think of it as just a list of abilities that you can pick from. There's no connection to the chakra slots themselves.
    OK, that helps, thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    I'm very confused by Blademeld Chakra Bind , being almost entirely unfamiliar with chakra binds and Incarnum in general. Can I utilize this class feature without some external source of charka binding, or not?

    Sorry if this is a blindingly obviously question, or was already answered above, but quite frankly Incarnum in general confuses me greatly.
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    Wow is Incarnum Blade garbage!

    I came up with an entertaining idea, but it has approximately zero to do with either Incarnum Blade or Exotic Weapon Master, so....

    In to Cook if I can come up with something different that actually uses the classes!

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    I found an exploit on incarnum blade, but can't really use it.

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    Not sure if there's anything that can be done right now, but I'm relatively certain this should be Junkyard Wars number XIX, not XIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiKirah View Post
    Not sure if there's anything that can be done right now, but I'm relatively certain this should be Junkyard Wars number XIX, not XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiKirah View Post
    Not sure if there's anything that can be done right now, but I'm relatively certain this should be Junkyard Wars number XIX, not XIV.
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    I didn't realize you could change the thread title, nice! And thanks for accommodating my OCD in fixing this!

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    I have an idea for a build that makes use of Exotic Weapon Master, at least. It basically amounts to a bonus feat. A level in fighter would accomplish the same thing for this build (in fact, the level in fighter would be preferable.)
    I can do nothing with Incarnum Blade, however.
    It's pretty much going to be six levels of good stuff, two levels of garbage, then twelve more levels of good stuff.

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    have an idea that actually makes both classes work together with panache, but can't seem to find the relevant rules listings to make it work...

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    I've come up with a build that does cool things, but I don't know if I'll have time to fully write it up before the deadline.

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    I got a weapon to abuse the heck out of. Just figuring out how...

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    Crud. I just came up with a third idea I like :/

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    Well, I've done more fleshing-out than I thought I'd have time to perform. I am now much more likely to enter; I just need to format and add backstory. Even if I don't, I'll post what I've got eventually.
    After multiple iterations, this path feels very obvious, so hopefully I'll have some... differentiating factors from similar entries. Making decent use of both ingredients was challenging.

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    you know whats fun?

    when you're half way done entering your build into the table, and then you lose internet for 4 hours... when it comes back up, the table is gone and you get to start all over (for the 4th time or so)

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    try going to your browser history and reopening the page that way. that's worked for me in the past, since when you're drafting a long post, your data is saved locally in cookies. for iron chef and similar activities, I use wordpad for this reason. plus it means I can cook on airplanes.
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