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    Not one to say I called it but the title definitely tipped me off on that one. And I sorta felt like this was gonna happen.

    Sooo awesome.
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    Durkon!

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    Well, I guess the heartfelt Belkar/Durkon moment will have to be postponed.

    edit: I hope we'll get a glimpse of Valhalla.
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    This is the simplest and cleanest way to resolve this plot thread. Very nice, Giant!

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    Will Belkar ever consider why the anti-life shell went down? Probably not.
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    Called it that it would be temporary. Didn't expect that Durkon factored that in.

    Now, find a dab of ash before Hilgya does something regrettable.

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    Belkar is fantastic as always.

    So it looks like the negative energy spirit does have it's own identity; being overwhelmed by Durkon's experiences suppresses it rather than overwriting it.

    I imagine over time it would reach some type of equilibrium.
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    And now is really true that Durkon would return to his homeland posthumously...
    Seems like Stickverse is at same time defying and validating Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus propositions 1. and 1.1. Also, it weirdly confirms proposition 6.44...

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    What happens now? I see no corpse, so no resurrection/raise dead? (With there being no true resurrection in this world I think?)

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    *Claps* Bravo, Rich, bravo.
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    A lot of buildup to this part of the arc, but so worth it. Particularly appreciate how fast theu've been coming now that we got here. Tells you that these strips didn't need the usual rewriting/drawing to be just right....because they've been planned this way since forever.


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    I love how his shot at Durkon is also a callback to Roy's shot at Thog.
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    Thou Hath been Belkar'd
    You mean Doomsealed! I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedar View Post
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    What happens now? I see no corpse, so no resurrection/raise dead? (With there being no true resurrection in this world I think?)
    Look at the chair more carefully. There are ashes there. No Raise Dead, but he can still be Resurrected--and Raise Dead doesn't work on people turned into undead anyway.

    The trick might be getting Hilgya to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedar View Post
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    What happens now? I see no corpse, so no resurrection/raise dead? (With there being no true resurrection in this world I think?)
    Ashes will work for a Resurrection, and it seems some are sitting in the chair. And Hilgya is high enough level to cast the spell.

    Now comes the tough part; the Order needs to convince Hilgya to *cast* said Rez. And they best start talking soon, before she pulls a V/L and blows the ashes away.
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    Ash's will work, and it seems some are sitting in the chair.

    Now comes the tough part; the Order needs to convince Hilyga to *cast* said Rez.

    Does she have the juice for that? I thought part of the vampire's cover was that Durkon didn't...

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    Does she have the juice for that? I thought part of the vampire's cover was that Durkon didn't...
    Undead can't just Resurrect themselves. They need to be destroyed first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpectralTime View Post
    Does she have the juice for that? I thought part of the vampire's cover was that Durkon didn't...
    She does, the issue was Durkon couldn't rez himself, as the Vampire has to be dead, thus releasing Durkon's soul, to be Rezable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedar View Post
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    What happens now? I see no corpse, so no resurrection/raise dead? (With there being no true resurrection in this world I think?)
    it was mentioned the high priest of Odin was strong enough to ressurect Durkons pa...

    foreshadowing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedar View Post
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    What happens now? I see no corpse, so no resurrection/raise dead? (With there being no true resurrection in this world I think?)
    The dust will most likely do. Also depending on the rule set there is ways around a body as long as you can clearly identify the person your trying to REZ name birthday death day ext . Its about forming a solid link to your target .. Worst case the order may be able to wrangle a wish item from the dwarven high mukky mucks for saving there hides.

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    If she can prepare and cast Empowered Flame Strike, she can prepare and cast Resurrection.

    Other editions aside, in this edition, having no remains at all and describing the resurrection target only works for True Resurrection. Not relevant as they have the ashes.
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    Hilgya is back to normal. There's still the question of how a high level Cleric failed the domination will save, again to defend someone she utterly, utterly hates, and again to hand over her child to someone she utterly, utterly hates. Supposedly utterly, utterly hates. Will Hilgya realise this?
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    Called it that it would be temporary. Didn't expect that Durkon factored that in.
    Durkon factoring that in would explain why he waited until the Order was there to kill him before springing this on Greg.

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    Durkon factoring that in would explain why he waited until the Order was there to kill him before springing this on Greg.
    Yup, this did a nice job of wrapping a neat bow on most the 'issues' the forum was squabbling over.

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    Now comes the tough part; the Order needs to convince Hilyga to *cast* said Rez. And they best start talking soon, before she pulls a V/L and blows the ashes away.
    What comes now is there are still two vampires out there, one of whom may still following his last order to dominate the dwarven elders and force a particular vote.
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    Thanks for the speed you have been releasing these. This has been something of a whirlwind couple of weeks, and it has been wonderful

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmachine View Post
    Hilgya is back to normal. There's still the question of how a high level Cleric failed the domination will save, again to defend someone she utterly, utterly hates, and again to hand over her child to someone she utterly, utterly hates. Supposedly utterly, utterly hates. Will Hilgya realise this?
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