Results 961 to 990 of 1079
-
2019-07-12, 10:07 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2011
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Well, that becomes a lot easier when one has the arkendish for ultimate communications superiority. Being able to tap into everybody else's conversations alone is extremely hax.
Still credit where credit's due, Charlie did put a lot of effort in his business, including comboing his own cheatomancy with the already hax arkendish (whereas Wanda seems to have forgotten she's a caster and just been relying in the pliers alone for all her problems), and I would even add it's not 100% scams, since he did develop a pretty big reputation. Just the service of being able to send a thinkgram anywhere anytime makes a lot of sides willing to deal with Charlie, and he doesn't even need to cheat there, or at least not then, just keep building up big data and then make use of that to profit later.
Charlie's also smart enough to perform heavy hiring of mercenary casters to expand his abilities.
Which makes it extra sad to see how far Charlie has fallen when he went down to "kekeke rifle rush! Oh that failed? Send in moar rifles!" and is now at the mercy of his own tower whereas other rulers have all managed to get better relationships with their newly awakened cities.
-
2019-07-12, 10:58 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Keep in mind that the casters who created these towers were unambiguously hostile to Charlie, so it's not really that weird that his tower would be the most unhelpful one of the bunch. A big part of the point of awakening the towers was that, on the whole, it would screw Charlie over.
Last edited by Aquillion; 2019-07-12 at 10:59 PM.
-
2019-07-13, 12:51 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2011
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Although I agree that the mass awakening was meant to screw Charlie, I seriously doubt they could specifically rig Charlie's tower to be the most unhelpful, since awakened towers are a pretty new trick and nobody was very sure how they worked and what they could do. Plus the thinkmancer gestalt was dying and just wanting to awaken as many towers as fast as possible , so I just don't see how they could afford to do such a specific thing in such a short time.
-
2019-07-13, 01:07 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2005
- Gender
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
FATETM.
Or less facetiously, if 'Screw Charlie' was explicitly/implicitly woven into the spell as part of their intent in casting it, it's not entirely unreasonable that it would end up expressing itself in the final result somehow. Shirley just happens to be that expression.NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void
-
2019-07-13, 01:22 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Yeah, but they did it (out of the vast range of things they could have presumably done) because they figured it would screw Charlie over.
So it's not a coincidence that out of all the sides out there, Charlie is cheating in the way that Towers are most likely to get upset about.Last edited by Aquillion; 2019-07-13 at 01:22 AM.
-
2019-07-13, 08:42 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2008
- Location
- Orlando, FL
- Gender
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
He was a good antagonist early on; he had mysteries and knew how to keep several steps ahead of everyone. I remember when speculation was almost convinced if he was another Stupidworlder like Parson.
I don't think he ever recovered that edge after power was knocked out of his city.
I would seriously prefer going back to string theory discussions than another page about the towers. :/
-
2019-07-13, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2013
- Location
- Bristol, UK
-
2019-07-14, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Yes, but look at it like this!
Now that they have a proper tower, they can go inside it and stand in front of the portal for a few hundred strips. It's not a real Erfworld story unless we have people standing in front of portals.
-
2019-07-14, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
-
2019-07-14, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2009
- Location
- Holy Kingdom of Faergus
- Gender
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Here's my question though, when was the last time Parson was in the comic?
R.I.P. Wrecan, he was a true organizer and a gentleman.
-
2019-07-14, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
-
2019-07-14, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2013
- Location
- Bristol, UK
-
2019-07-14, 03:29 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2015
- Location
- Germany
- Gender
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Well yeah, cause Rob needs like 10 books to cover a single turn.
After all, every page needs to be followed by at least half a dozen interludes that show how other people, most of them otherwise uninvolved with the current plot (or any of the dozen others), react to the events about to happen."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
-
2019-07-14, 11:12 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Parson is standing in front of a portal, and as we all know, they release fields that reduce the subjective flow of time to almost nil whenever he's in that situation.
-
2019-07-15, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
-
2019-07-16, 12:05 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
-
2019-07-16, 03:15 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
-
2019-07-16, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
-
2019-07-18, 12:23 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2009
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
I think it was a fanfic, but there was a cool story on the Erfworld site about somebody who majorly abused this process to drive his enemies insane and cause them to defect. Basically forced the other side to have a "day" that lasted years if not centuries of subjective time, bored out of their minds.
-
2019-07-18, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2007
- Location
- Leeds, UK
- Gender
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Erf-fic The Last Turn by the author of The Wandering Inn
Last edited by Doran; 2019-07-18 at 02:44 PM.
-
2019-07-22, 12:12 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2012
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
-
2019-07-22, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
-
2019-07-22, 12:43 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2013
- Location
- Bristol, UK
-
2019-07-22, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2012
-
2019-07-22, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2009
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
I enjoyed this one a lot more than the last few.
It also makes me wonder if Sugar has a focus on expansion because all Towers have that focus as their goal (as such is the inherent goal of all Sides, per the 'rules' of the game Erfworld is), or if it's an artifact of ancient Atlantis' goals and self-perception.
Jed doesn't seem particularly expansionist, but his side is basically winning, so it makes sense he wouldn't push it: keeping Stanley mellow is working to expand the Side.
-
2019-07-22, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Jillian's tower didn't seem particularly aggressive or expansionist, either. And while, yes, GK is winning, Jed really didn't seem to care about their expansion or their victory - his only fixation seems to be on protecting the capital (which makes some sense, since Parson specifically awakened him with that in mind.) Shirley seems to care more about everyone playing by the rules than about winning (an ironic inversion of Charlie.)
This one is the first unambiguously expansionist tower.
Actually, a lot of towers are ironic inversions of their Overlord:
Shirley, the tower of the rule-breaking win-at-any-costs Charlie, cares mostly about propriety and making sure everyone follows the rules.
Templeton, the tower of the hot-blooded Jillian, is introspective and interested in gathering as much information from everyone around before taking decisive action.
And now Paige, a warlady who has concluded that Erfworld is a sucker's game that nobody should play, gets Sugar, a temple that wants to aggressively play the game in the most straightforward and obvious way imaginable.
Jed and Huehue are the exceptions, but even Jed is clearly thoughtful, diplomatic, and concerned about doing the right thing, which is a pretty big contrast with Stanley.
Huehue it's hard to say anything about because everything we've seen about him has been during one specific crisis; his determination and decisiveness certainly contrasts with the Caesar we got immediately afterwards, but that seems a bit weak - overall Huehue's ruthless determination is much closer to how Caesar and Translyvito generally acted.Last edited by Aquillion; 2019-07-22 at 02:38 PM.
-
2019-07-22, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Nov 2007
- Location
- Indianapolis
- Gender
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Something (Fate/the will of the Titans/whatever) seems to have a thing for humorously ironic contrasts between the tower and their sides Rulers. In that respect, the one-province hidden side that just wants to get by in peace and write stories about the rest of the world is almost inevitably going to get a Tower that is a gung-ho military expansionist.
-
2019-07-22, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Singapore
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
Yeah, I edited my post to note that afterwards, haha. Although Huehue seems to be an exception - there was a contrast right afterwards, I guess, but mostly he acts the way I'd expect a Translyvito tower to behave, ie. putting up a formal, staidly firm front, while being willing to cheat outrageously in the background.
Last edited by Aquillion; 2019-07-22 at 02:39 PM.
-
2019-07-22, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2010
-
2019-07-22, 05:59 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2015
Re: Erfworld Thread XI: Finally, it's HAMMER-TIME!
I think the towers' goals are each primarily to solve their side's biggest problems. The source of their theme and attitude I couldn't possibly speculate about at this point. Stanley needed loyal subjects, and not a side of just Decrypted, and he got the juggle elves. Charlie needs to better manage his drug addiction, and needed to get his capital back to level 5 power. Jillian really does need to assess her intel and figure out who her real allies and enemies are. TV desperately needed to identify and oust dangerous actors within the capital. It seems like the first thing on the tower's mind is the needs of the side.