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    It is a world ruled by Mad Science! Things happen. Usually, they happen to other people. This is entertainment. That's when the front door gets blown in- And you belatedly realize that, once again, you are doomed to be the entertainment in another exciting installment of: GIRL GENIUS!

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    A compilation (and much easier to read if you're just catching up) of the first three chapters can be found here at the GG website.
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    With the current plans to control Agatha & co and whatever is going on with Miss Fashionbug searching Zeetha's stuff for something from Skifander I almost expect this will end with the domes shattered and England on fire.
    And yes, I mean at the same time.
    Some hats might end up lost as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    With the current plans to control Agatha & co and whatever is going on with Miss Fashionbug searching Zeetha's stuff for something from Skifander I almost expect this will end with the domes shattered and England on fire.
    And yes, I mean at the same time.
    Some hats might end up lost as well.
    That sounds terrible! How will people be on time for tea!?
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
    I'll take that bet.

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    They'll just use the fires to make tea. And maybe toast a few crumpets, while they're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    They'll just use the fires to make tea. And maybe toast a few crumpets, while they're at it.
    Toast? Underwater? Wouldn't the bread get wet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Toast? Underwater? Wouldn't the bread get wet?
    Crumpets are incredibly durable. Who wouldn't want some crumpet under water?
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    Now I am wondering what happens when you combine Jaegerspeak with high-class English accents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Crumpets are incredibly durable. Who wouldn't want some crumpet under water?
    If sparks can't make buttered crumpets that work underwater, what good are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rockphed
    Now I am wondering what happens when you combine Jaegerspeak with high-class English accents
    Since Jaegerspeak is just an antiquated dialect of whatever the lingua franca in GG is*, English Jaegerspeak would just be Shakespearian (or perhaps Chaucerian, depending on just how old the Jaegers are) English.

    *I think I read somewhere that it's Romanian.
    NB: While I never mean to offend anybody, sometimes the unfortunate combination of Aspergersism and the inherent difficulty of reading a situation through uninflected text over the internet get in the way of that goal. Please feel free to point out any social faux pas, inappropriate joke timing, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
    If sparks can't make buttered crumpets that work underwater, what good are they?
    Wait you think sparks are good for anything? Have you looked at this universe's state?

    Since Jaegerspeak is just an antiquated dialect of whatever the lingua franca in GG is*, English Jaegerspeak would just be Shakespearian (or perhaps Chaucerian, depending on just how old the Jaegers are) English.
    Jägerspeak isn't supposed to be an eastern european accent? I thought it was.
    *I think I read somewhere that it's Romanian.
    Considering the whole Pax Transilvania joke that would make sense. Not that it stopped them to make franco-english puns while in Paris. Why don't people keep their translation convention consistent?
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
    I'll take that bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Crumpets are incredibly durable. Who wouldn't want some crumpet under water?
    I can see the marquee already: "The Incredible Mr. Crumet"!
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    Rakethorn really seems to have been over-promoted. He's being told by a spy that has spent a lot of time tracking Gil and Agatha and Tarvek about how much he is under-estimating all of them, and he is ignoring the warning.

    That's a good example of "I know more from these reports than you do from direct exposure", and one promotion too many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SZbNAhL View Post
    If sparks can't make buttered crumpets that work underwater, what good are they?

    Since Jaegerspeak is just an antiquated dialect of whatever the lingua franca in GG is*, English Jaegerspeak would just be Shakespearian (or perhaps Chaucerian, depending on just how old the Jaegers are) English.

    *I think I read somewhere that it's Romanian.
    The comic has never said, but one of the GG print-novels mentions that, yes, Romanian is the official language of the Wulfenbach empire. Also, most educated people, Agatha among them, are multi-lingual.

    Quote Originally Posted by keybounce View Post
    Rakethorn really seems to have been over-promoted. He's being told by a spy that has spent a lot of time tracking Gil and Agatha and Tarvek about how much he is under-estimating all of them, and he is ignoring the warning.

    That's a good example of "I know more from these reports than you do from direct exposure", and one promotion too many.
    When first he was first mentioned, it was noted he was somewhat in the doghouse over some lost Sparky engines. So it's surprising he's messing this up as well.
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    It's alright Tarvek, you can admit you both like and trust Gil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keybounce View Post
    Rakethorn really seems to have been over-promoted. He's being told by a spy that has spent a lot of time tracking Gil and Agatha and Tarvek about how much he is under-estimating all of them, and he is ignoring the warning.

    That's a good example of "I know more from these reports than you do from direct exposure", and one promotion too many.
    It is possible that is his style, we have already had Zola and Tarvek (and even Gil) play the fool. Rakethorn could be asking probing questions and very carefully watching what sort of reactions he gets from them, while pretending not to watch.

    Rakethorn may not entirely trust his fellow spy and some of his actions may be looking for clues as to divided loyalties or other future problems, eg Wooster also having loyalty to Gil, or wanting Gil+Agatha to keep Trelawney hope for himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keybounce View Post
    Rakethorn really seems to have been over-promoted. He's being told by a spy that has spent a lot of time tracking Gil and Agatha and Tarvek about how much he is under-estimating all of them, and he is ignoring the warning.

    That's a good example of "I know more from these reports than you do from direct exposure", and one promotion too many.
    Rakethorn's been told no such thing. The information Wooster has provided him is "Tarvek is here" and "That was my initial assessment as well" and "Gil is your biggest problem." Perhaps Rakethorn hasn't noticed that Wooster is holding back w.r.t. Tarvek, but he has acknowledged that Gil is a problem and pointed out that Thorpe is managing it. No comeback was forthcoming regarding how much of an underestimate this is supposed to be.

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    "Sure feels longer."

    Foglios do love their little snippets of meta jokes.

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    Hmm... does that reaction mean Agatha is going to put curing Gil on the front burner? Well, after this pesky murder business is sorted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    That sounds terrible! How will people be on time for tea!?
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    Sorry. Some stereotypes need to be fed, even if it's just undersea crumpets. Hmm... we'll need to balance the recipe to coordinate with saltwater...
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    Clearly the Sparky solution would not be crumpets that taste good when dunked in seawater, but a crumpet which actively repels sea water so that you can lift it off the plate and put it in your mouth, nice and crisp. Of course you have to spit out the sea water repelling mechanism afterward, but that's why you have water repellant napkins.

    I'm wondering if Rakethorn is perhaps ready to betray both Albia and Agatha while setting Wooster up to take the blame - that would give Wooster a reason to flee England and join Team Agatha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabbey View Post
    Hmm... does that reaction mean Agatha is going to put curing Gil on the front burner? Well, after this pesky murder business is sorted?
    If so, I hazard that something will conspire to keep that from happening. Despite serious outside nefarious actors (like the Other, Baron Wulfenbach, Zola, the extra-dimensional beings, etc.), the comic acts much like a no villain plot -- most of the best storylines are about the protagonist-types acting against each other out of distrust, misinformation, opposing goals, each believing themselves to be the best person to do XYZ, etc. If we got Agetha, Gil, Tarvek, Wooster, and Higgs all in one place working towards one goal, the strip would be over in a heartbeat (and then the Foglios would have to disappoint 60% of their audience by having Agatha choose one of her suitors and not the other (or neither).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    If so, I hazard that something will conspire to keep that from happening. Despite serious outside nefarious actors (like the Other, Baron Wulfenbach, Zola, the extra-dimensional beings, etc.), the comic acts much like a no villain plot -- most of the best storylines are about the protagonist-types acting against each other out of distrust, misinformation, opposing goals, each believing themselves to be the best person to do XYZ, etc. If we got Agetha, Gil, Tarvek, Wooster, and Higgs all in one place working towards one goal, the strip would be over in a heartbeat (and then the Foglios would have to disappoint 60% of their audience by having Agatha choose one of her suitors and not the other (or neither).
    I predict that Gil gets cured in England but Agatha does not. Gil may be cured in the classic Love Triumphs manner akin to how the memories of a ghola were restored in the later Dune books - his father will take control so that Gil will let Agatha die, and Gil will say NOPE! to his father's override. Possibly with negative side effects, like memory loss or even diminished Sparkyness.
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    I think that the overlay in Gil's head was designed to be able to be removed or shutdown when the time came. Klaus loves his son and specifically went out of his way to make sure that Gil was his own person. Remember the first chapter was a test for Gil to make sure that Gil could tell his father that he was wrong. I also suspect that the overlay being intact may be needed for everyone to get out of England alive. The Queen's Mirror we sow screams foreshadowing to me and the Baron is the only person we know of that might know how to activate it as he did once already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    then the Foglios would have to disappoint 60% of their audience by having Agatha choose one of her suitors and not the other (or neither).
    I do believe that all three are onboard for the answer to that being "both", there might be a few disappointed fans about that, but I wouldn't be one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandofShadows View Post
    I think that the overlay in Gil's head was designed to be able to be removed or shutdown when the time came. Klaus loves his son and specifically went out of his way to make sure that Gil was his own person. Remember the first chapter was a test for Gil to make sure that Gil could tell his father that he was wrong. I also suspect that the overlay being intact may be needed for everyone to get out of England alive. The Queen's Mirror we sow screams foreshadowing to me and the Baron is the only person we know of that might know how to activate it as he did once already.
    I am not sure Klaus actually loves Gil. Needs an heir and finds Gil to be the best available seems possible. A possible plot twist is Klaus losing faith in Gil and the heir apparent becoming Zeetha - that would be one

    Quote Originally Posted by halfeye View Post
    I do believe that all three are onboard for the answer to that being "both", there might be a few disappointed fans about that, but I wouldn't be one of them.
    That would be very Heterodyne, of course. Marriage is something for people who care about rules. OTOH, one of them may have to die dramatically to save Agatha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I'm wondering if Rakethorn is perhaps ready to betray both Albia and Agatha while setting Wooster up to take the blame - that would give Wooster a reason to flee England and join Team Agatha.
    Unlikely. Gil told us that "to go against Albia of England's merest whim is literally unthinkable." While Wooster is potentially demonstrating that the conditioning could crack, I would find it doubtful that one of Albia's agents (who was presumably assigned to the SparkSphere to report on their activities) would turn against his boss for limited personal gain. Unless he's secretly been wasped or something, but that's what we just had happen in Paris so I really don't want it rehashed again here.

    I think the thing that will "break" (for lack of a better word) Wooster is his relationships with Gil and Agatha during his time in Europa showing him that they are just decent people and that they have important stuff to deal with (stopping the Other, stabilizing Europa, preventing an extra-dimensional invasion) that just can't be done if they are permanently kept in England. At some point, they are going to want to leave, Rakethorn is going to try to stop them and Wooster will need to make a choice between Crown and Companions. And the fact that he's already withholding info from an agent of the Crown suggests that part of him already wants to go with companions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I am not sure Klaus actually loves Gil. Needs an heir and finds Gil to be the best available seems possible. A possible plot twist is Klaus losing faith in Gil and the heir apparent becoming Zeetha - that would be one.

    I think Klaus truly loves Gil
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    the Vector Legion [is the IFCC's new pawns], mark my words. Way too much unfinished business there and they already know about the Gates.
    I'll take that bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Arguably, that's his "I'm so glad I have a worthy heir" smile. For a man like Klaus, "Loves" and "Has a need for" may have blurry edges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    And exhibit B. Besides the obvious, this also strongly implies that Klaus is running the Empire for the sake of his son, and not the other way around, which blows the whole "only cares about Gil as heir to the Empire" thing out of the water.

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    Could those two act any more like brothers? I know twins who are less brotherly than Gil and Tarvek.

    And I doubt Higgs is buying any of that in the last panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethologica View Post
    And exhibit B. Besides the obvious, this also strongly implies that Klaus is running the Empire for the sake of his son, and not the other way around, which blows the whole "only cares about Gil as heir to the Empire" thing out of the water.
    You posted before I could. Also remember what Klaus did to save Gil while he was still a baby. He clearly fought his way out of Skif to keep Gil safe (as well as leaving his wife who he clearly loves) and that was before any thoughts of empire.
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