OOTS #1138 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Resileaf]

Astral lessons, brought to you by our very special guest: Thor.

[JumboWheat01]

A crash course in priesthood, eh? So that's how multi-classing works...

[NerdyKris]

Thoughts that no one even remembers. A great place to stash stuff.


I wonder what thoughts those might be.

[Snails]

When I said that chatting up her god ride in Vahalla was never going to get old for Minrah, I did not realize how right I was.

[Thanatosia]

Oh god, this one was so genius!

WHO'S A GOOD DOG, YOU ARE!! - a philisophical-ethical-moral stance powerful enough to create an entire plane of existance if there ever was one.

[KishouTheBadger]

Poor Durkon's still not a fan of flying, heheh.

I loved how one of those places in the Astral Plane is a pink square that rebels against all the other circles. "Don't tell me what to do."

I feel a lot of this kind of flew over my head though like Thor's flying, but I can tell it's a very neat exposition to those not in the know like me or Minrah.

[Ma3lstr0m]

Oh god, this one was so genius!

WHO'S A GOOD DOG, YOU ARE!! - a philisophical-ethical-moral stance powerful enough to create an entire plane of existance if there ever was one.

This is exactly what Beastlands are, aren't they?

[Yuki Akuma]

I love the fact that Limbo is a square - simply because all the others are circles, so of course Limbo has to be a square.

[Snails]

Thoughts that no one even remembers. A great place to stash stuff.

Just do not stash it too near Oh, no, where did I put it?

[Fyraltari]

Ah! A new strip! Sleep is for the weak!

Hey looks like the thoughts are organized with the Good thoughts up top, the Evil one down, the Lawful on the right left, and the Chaotic on the left right.

Thor is True Neutral confirmed.

[RayGallade]

I think the infield fly rule is perfectly understood and well formed. It’s just occasionally misunderstood.

[Yuki Akuma]

Ah! A new strip! Sleep is for the weak!

Hey looks like the thoughts are organized with the Good thoughts up top, the Evil one down, the Lawful on the right, and the Chaotic on the left.

Thor is True Neutral confirmed.

You got Lawful and Chaotic backwards - Chaotic is on the right, because that's where "Don't you tell me what to do" (Limbo) is, while Lawful is on the left, because that's where "There is only one right path" (Mechanus) is.

[CoffeeIncluded]

I spent way too long looking at the sums of the alignment planes. Seriosuly loved that panel.

[Rockphed]

So I'm fairly certain that some, if not all, of the planes we saw were canonical outer planes. Anyone care to guess which is which? My takes:

• "Truth, Justice and the Celestial Way" is obviously Celestia
• "There is only one right path" is obviously Mechanus
• "Don't tell me what to do" is probably limbo. That said, it is a square and I can't see chaotic neutral people doing squares. Then again, it is a square when every other plane is a circle, which I can see.
• "Yes, but if you read the fine print" has gotta be Hell.
• "Screw you jack, I got mine" is probably the Abyss.

[Keltest]

You got Lawful and Chaotic backwards - Chaotic is on the right, because that's where "Don't you tell me what to do" (Limbo) is, while Lawful is on the left, because that's where "There is only one right path" (Mechanus) is.

I love that Limbo is a square.

[Starknight62040]

Awesome. The Plane names were funny as all get out.

[Thanatosia]

Poor Durkon's still not a fan of flying, heheh.

I loved how one of those places in the Astral Plane is a pink square that rebels against all the other circles. "Don't tell me what to do."

I feel a lot of this kind of flew over my head though like Thor's flying, but I can tell it's a very neat exposition to those not in the know like me or Minrah.

Quick Guide to the Outer Planes

Elysium - True Good - "Everyone should Care" - Basically the classical greek fields of Elysium, a place so idealic it can actually entrap you there and make you forget you ever had a reason to leave.
The Beastlands - Good but a little Chaotic - "Who's a good dog, you are!" - Good animals are good!
Arboria - Chaotic Good - "Words aren't as important as people" - Sylvan afterlife of elves.
Ysgard - Chaotic but a little good - "Fight the good fight!" - Valhala and valkyries!
Limbo - True Chaos - "Don't you tell me what to do!" - Swirling essence of chaos, a roiling maelstrom of all elements and concepts
Pandemonium - Chaotic but a little evil - "LULZ" - Deep cavernous realm filled with screaching deafening winds that drive everyone insane.
The Abyss- Chatoic Evil - "Screw you jack, I got mine." - An Infinity of demons, going down uncounted layers (though some claim 666), each worse then the last in theory.
Carcerei - Evil but a little Chaotic - "You're bad and you should feel bad." - A prison plane
Hades - True Evil - "Nothing Matters" - Infinite bleakness, where you slowly loose the will to care about anything (including leaving) until you fade away to nothing but dust.
Gehena - Evil but a little lawful - "Resistance is futile" - Giant volcanos floating in space controled by Yugoloth Generals and warlords
Baator (the 9 hells) - Lawful Evil - "Yes, but if you read the fine print..." - Where you sell your soul to when you make faustian bargains.
Archeron - Lawful but a little evil - "I was just following orders..." - An eternal battlefield where armies clash forever on giant floating cubes.
Mechanus - True Lawful - "There's only one right path" - Huge mechanical plane made out of interlocking gears, many colonized by ant-like formians.
Arcadia - Lawful but a little good - "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." - Paladin afterlife, with an ultra-strict home owners association.
Celestia - Lawful Good - "Truth, justice, and the celestial way." - The conventional heavenly plane, in the form of a giant mountain you climb as you become purer.
Bytopia - Good but a little lawful - "Let's all do our part" - Gnomish afterlife, consisting of two planes one hanging over the other, with a communal spirit.
Outlands - True Nuetral - "Hey, lets not get carried away..." It connects and bleeds into all the other in a circle around it, with a 'portal town' at every junction. At it's center is a giant pillar that nulifies all magic as you approach, and gods and dieties are unable to approach. Floating in a ring on that pillar is the major planar city of Sigil, ruled by the Lady of pain.

Edit - added a d&D description of the planes, and added outlands which I totally spaced on.

[Xodiac]

I like how one of the thoughts nobody remembers is "My wedding anniversary is tomorrow."

How true, Giant. How true.

[dtilque]

I think the infield fly rule is perfectly understood and well formed. It’s just occasionally misunderstood.

It's not that it's not known, it's just that it doesn't matter.

[Rockphed]

Quick Guide to the Outer Planes

Elysium - True Good - "Everyone should Care"
The Beastlands - Good but a little Chaotic - "Who's a good dog, you are!"
Arboria - Chaotic Good - "Words aren't as important as people"
Ysgard - Chaotic but a little good - "Fight the good fight!"
Limbo - True Chaos - "Don't you tell me what to do!"
Pandemonium - Chaotic but a little evil - "LULZ"
The Abyss- Chatoic Evil - "Screw you jack, I got mine."
Carcerei - Evil but a little Chaotic - "You're bad and you should feel bad."
Hades - True Evil - "Nothing Matters"
Gehena - Evil but a little lawful - "Resistance is futile"
Baator (the 9 hells) - Lawful Evil - "Yes, but if you read the fine print..."
Archeron - Lawful but a little evil - "I was just following orders..."
Mechanus - True Lawful - "There's only one right path"
Arcadia - Lawful but a little good - "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
Celestia - Lawful Good - "Truth, justice, and the celestial way."
Bytopia - Good but a little lawful - "Let's all do our part"

What about "Hey, Let's not get carried away"

[Grey Watcher]

Not pictured: Sigil ("Whatever, n00b.")

[Snails]

I think the infield fly rule is perfectly understood and well formed. It’s just occasionally misunderstood.

It is more that it catches people by surprise. But it is really easy to understand if you as a base runner or base coach ask yourself what you are going to do if there is a popup, which is one of those questions you are supposed to ask yourself before the pitcher starts the windup.

[gamingfreak10]

i think minrah was looking for edifying. it's probably even further out.

[Yuki Akuma]

What about "Hey, Let's not get carried away"

That's the Outlands, which is Pure Neutral.

Edit: Well, that's a little misleading. It's more accurate to say that the Outlands is every alignment at once, but it sort of averages out to Pure Neutral.

[Doggie_arf]

i think minrah was looking for edifying. it's probably even further out.

What about "enlightening"? _{Or perhaps "confusing"?}

Also, the description for Limbo reminded me of this. All these squares make a circle...all these squares make a circle...

[lbuttitta]

What about "Hey, Let's not get carried away"

That's the Outlands, the plane of true neutrality, in which Sigil, the city of doors, is located.

Edit: Ninja'd!

[Grey Watcher]

What about "Hey, Let's not get carried away"

That would be the Outlands, plane of Neutrality. Though for a motto for that, I prefer to quote Sondheim: "Why can't we just live our lives with our children and our wives?"

[Resileaf]

What about "Hey, Let's not get carried away"

True neutral. Wouldn't know what plane it goes with though.

[Ellye]

Quick Guide to the Outer Planes

Elysium - True Good - "Everyone should Care" - Basically the classical greek fields of Elysium, a place so idealic it can actually entrap you there and make you forget you ever had a reason to leave.
The Beastlands - Good but a little Chaotic - "Who's a good dog, you are!" - Good animals are good!
Arboria - Chaotic Good - "Words aren't as important as people" - Sylvan afterlife of elves and unicorns
Ysgard - Chaotic but a little good - "Fight the good fight!" - Valhala and valkyries!
Limbo - True Chaos - "Don't you tell me what to do!" - Swirling essence of chaos, a roiling maelstrom of all elements and concepts
Pandemonium - Chaotic but a little evil - "LULZ" - Deep cavernous realm filled with screaching deafening winds that drive everyone insane.
The Abyss- Chatoic Evil - "Screw you jack, I got mine." - An Infinity of demons, going down uncounted layers (though some claim 666), each worse then the last in theory.
Carcerei - Evil but a little Chaotic - "You're bad and you should feel bad." - A prison plane
Hades - True Evil - "Nothing Matters" - Infinite bleakness, where you slowly loose the will to care about anything (including leaving) until you fade away to nothing but dust.
Gehena - Evil but a little lawful - "Resistance is futile" - Giant volcanos floating in space controled by Yugoloth Generals and warlords
Baator (the 9 hells) - Lawful Evil - "Yes, but if you read the fine print..." - Where you sell your soul to when you make faustian bargains.
Archeron - Lawful but a little evil - "I was just following orders..." - An eternal battlefield where armies clash forever on giant floating cubes.
Mechanus - True Lawful - "There's only one right path" - Huge mechanical plane made out of interlocking gears, many colonized by ant-like formians.
Arcadia - Lawful but a little good - "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." - Paladin afterlife
Celestia - Lawful Good - "Truth, justice, and the celestial way." - The conventional heavenly plane, in the form of a giant mountain you climb as you become purer.
Bytopia - Good but a little lawful - "Let's all do our part" - Gnomish afterlife, consisting of two planes one hanging over the other, with a communal spirit.

Fits perfectly with the planes and the way they are arranged in the panel. Nice!