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    Default What Thoughts/Philosophy Constitutes the Prime Material Plane?

    I was wondering if anyone had any ideas of what "Core Ideas" would be associated with the Prime Material Plane, if it shared its origin with The Outer Planes. I get that it was created by the gods, and is (obviously) made up of matter similar to th Elemental Planes. But if you had to assign them to the PMP what would you come up with? I feel like the alignment it would have to be associated with is True Neutral, but I want hear everyone else's thoughts.
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    "Family matters."
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    All the Philosophies are present in the Prime, so if it was made of thoughts, it would be like the TN Outlands.

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    "You got a choice to make."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerky View Post
    What Thoughts / Philosophy Constitutes the Prime Material Plane?
    gods are great, beer is good, and people are crazy.
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    "This time it'll work."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    "This time it'll work."
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    Default Re: What Thoughts/Philosophy Constitutes the Prime Material Plane?

    Only the Outer Planes embody concepts and ideas. They represent the metaphysical, just as the Inner Planes represent the physical. The Material Plane could therefore be thought of as a place where they all come together, if you need it to represent something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thereaper View Post
    Only the Outer Planes embody concepts and ideas. They represent the metaphysical, just as the Inner Planes represent the physical. The Material Plane could therefore be thought of as a place where they all come together, if you need it to represent something.
    We can think of the Prime Material Plane as the big pot into which all of the ingredients, thoughts, influences, factors, ideals are put to make that delicious ... chili ... stew ... what have you... that is a world. Hmmm, now I need to get the chili started, this is making me hungry.
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    As others have mentioned, the Prime Material is made up of matter rather than ideas. As the name would suggest.

    This is true of the other inner planes too, those being the four elemental planes and the planes of positive and negative energy, and the prime material is sort of the outlands of those. It's where all the elements are present in equal measure and able to coexist and form things that aren't purely one element. The ethereal plane is sort of the astral plane of the inner planes too, I think, and the shadow plane works in there... somehow.

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    Oh, that's easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandor View Post
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    Party On, Dude!
    No, that would be Arborea.

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    I'd say it's "everything in moderation" or... simply no ideas at all. A completely blank slate and an ideal location for the gods to weave their threads of reality.
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    "Too many cooks."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilan8888 View Post
    "Just do it"
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    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

    "Eh, whatever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millstone85 View Post
    "You got a choice to make."
    Also good. Maybe "No one else gets to decide what you think is important."

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    "everything in moderation"
    That's already pretty well covered by the True Neutral Outer Plane, though.

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    "Just do it"
    Well, creatures that act purely on instinct are supposed to be Neutral, and obviously are so in a way different from the conscious, dedicated Neutrality of the Outlands. I wouldn't associate that with the PMP as a whole, though, because a lot of its denizens aren't like that.
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    Abstract positioning, either fully "position doesn't matter" or "zones" or whatever, is fine. If the rules reflect that. Exact positioning, with a visual representation, is fine. But "exact positioning theoretically exists, and the rules interact with it, but it only exists in the GM's head and is communicated to the players a bit at a time" sucks for anything even a little complex. And I say this from a GM POV.

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