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    You might want to continue with that thought, Gregor.

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    You might want to continue with that thought, Gregor.
    Alternatively: just because the ai don't perceive the danger doesn't mean it isn't there. Helix and Florence both have become inurred to the chaos that's am brings, so they might not even think to warn others about it.
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    You might want to continue with that thought, Gregor.
    Yeah jokes on him: now he meets the alien whose morality literally runs on what humans would call "cartoonishly morally bankrupt corruption and deceptive selfishness". when he is the guy introduced with the phrase "but whats the moral code you ascribe to?".

    being open-minded about Florence is easy, she is Florence, she is reasonable, humble and kind. Sam on the other hand is probably the walking incarnation of all the things his parents warned him about.
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    Yeah jokes on him: now he meets the alien whose morality literally runs on what humans would call "cartoonishly morally bankrupt corruption and deceptive selfishness". when he is the guy introduced with the phrase "but whats the moral code you ascribe to?".

    being open-minded about Florence is easy, she is Florence, she is reasonable, humble and kind. Sam on the other hand is probably the walking incarnation of all the things his parents warned him about.
    More like " all the things his parents didn't warn him about because they were patently obvious ".

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    And Florence is back in what is apparently the most revealing outfit she owns.

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    Wow, I never thought I'd see Stanley draw a hatch blush. Sometimes it's very hard to do.

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    And Florence is back in what is apparently the most revealing outfit she owns.
    Which clearly reveals ... one well-defined ribcage. I wonder how much musculature she needs to keep herself upright and for her level of activity? I was kind of imagining it to be more like a bodybuilder, since she's a wolf, but I hadn't thought it through - Stanley draws her with only about as much as a highly active female human. Although she also has extra bone structure to go along with it, I guess.
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    Which clearly reveals ... one well-defined ribcage. I wonder how much musculature she needs to keep herself upright and for her level of activity? I was kind of imagining it to be more like a bodybuilder, since she's a wolf, but I hadn't thought it through - Stanley draws her with only about as much as a highly active female human. Although she also has extra bone structure to go along with it, I guess.
    High muscle mass is not a good idea, if you do not have a skeleton that can bear such a load. Think more of highly trained martial artists as an optimal amount of muscles.
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    Normal humans actually have very poor weight to strength ratios for their muscles compared to most animals. Most animals have a much higher ratio, so a little muscle would go a lot farther. Florence shouldn't need to bulk up to add some strength.
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    Normal humans actually have very poor weight to strength ratios for their muscles compared to most animals. Most animals have a much higher ratio, so a little muscle would go a lot farther. Florence shouldn't need to bulk up to add some strength.
    Is Florence still recovering from her injury? I recall her being so hungry she was worried about trying to eat her own foot. Alternatively, she is active, but doesn't do anything super strenuous so she has the same sort of body as a human runner.
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    Is Florence still recovering from her injury? I recall her being so hungry she was worried about trying to eat her own foot. Alternatively, she is active, but doesn't do anything super strenuous so she has the same sort of body as a human runner.
    Hmm. How long were they in space, again? That was what, 0.1g? They were all visibly deconditioned at the end of it.
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    Hmm. How long were they in space, again? That was what, 0.1g? They were all visibly deconditioned at the end of it.
    Just three weeks. At 0.05g.

    Pournelle/Niven Transfer is at 8 m/s2. Earth gravity is 9.8 m/s2. Roughly 0.82g.

    Florence was less deconditioned due to her adherence to exercise to try to mitigate the effects of low gravity, but do keep in mind that she is digitigrade, not plantigrade, which probably makes it a bit harder for her to support herself.

    Not to mention that she went quadrupedal for her exercise, rather than bipedal, so some of the support muscles didn't get the use she needs.
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    If memory serves, that has to do with how hard she pushes herself.

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    Good to see that Sam has an accurate understanding of his abilities.
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    And is keeping himself in shape. Makes you wonder if he's one of the fastest sprinters on Planet Jean.

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    Sam's ability to take the wrong message from whatever people tell him may be his most human trait.

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    Sam's ability to take the wrong message from whatever people tell him may be his most human trait.
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    Right now, Sam is really lucky Florence can't get through the door by herself.

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    Oh, I think we have an idea of how much fuss there would be over losing a nuclear reactor. Right fellow Playgrounders?

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    And Sam has learned an important lesson about safety protocols.

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    And Sam has learned an important lesson about safety protocols.
    Oh yeah. Sam might or might not recognize it consciously, but the excess safety in the spaceship is for the benefit of everyone around, not just the person doing the work. (also, i'm amused that your second link doesn't work yet)
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    Yeah, that's a problem with their site. You have to double link, because the first link will break with the next update.

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    And in this update Sam's learns of the hazards of traveling with someone even more famous than himself.

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    Kinda love how the author felt the need to point out that Sam's pressure suit (which we already know has leaks) isn't vacuum rated.

    Also love how Sam will risk his life to provide a signature the robot doesn't even necessarily want.

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    Kinda love how the author felt the need to point out that Sam's pressure suit (which we already know has leaks) isn't vacuum rated.

    Also love how Sam will risk his life to provide a signature the robot doesn't even necessarily want.
    I also love how once Sam pokes a hole in the "survival bag" then that won't be vacuum rated either.
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    Does anyone know why Florence's suit only has one big leg?
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    I'd say it's because you can't walk anyway in 0g, so the one-leg design is cheaper and more efficient?
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    I'd say it's because you can't walk anyway in 0g, so the one-leg design is cheaper and more efficient?
    I want to say that she says that when she first puts it on.
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    Does anyone know why Florence's suit only has one big leg?
    I'd guess it's because a concave separation between two legs would be a weak point where mechanical stress could turn into tears easily, nor do hips' position and range of motion lend themselves to the type of reinforcement you see around Florence's shoulders and elbows.
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