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Thread: Freefall 3: Death Ray Byproducts
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2022-07-14, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is as close as we're gonna get to seeing Sam's true form, isn't it?
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2022-07-15, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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So a quadruped covered in tentacles, bearing little resemblance to Florence except for the voice and face, is able to trigger ship's Florence identity. Oh man, don't set ship's computer up to run any polar research stations...
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2022-07-15, 09:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.
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2022-07-15, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, that's likely, but I'm still awaiting the scenario:
Florence: Ship, I just heard the cargo bay doors open, who authorized that.
Ship: Florence did.
Florence: No I didn't.
Ship: Yes you did.
Florence: When?
Ship: Ten seconds ago.
Florence: No I didn't.
Ship: I assure you, you went up to the cargo bay door control panel, and asked me to open the cargo bay doors.
Florence: I'm in the galley right now, and was at that time as well.
Ship: Yes, but you are also in the cargo bay, consuming Sam and dismantling Helix. I'd have alerted you, but since it was Sam and Helix, it does not trigger my violence alert protocols. When you get here, perhaps you can ask yourself the meaning of all of this activity.
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2022-07-17, 12:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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We didn't see Full Frontal Sam, but this is a nice compromise. We get a silhouette of his full tentacly glory, without ruining the eldritch mystique (a la Seinfeld's "nude mystique").
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2022-07-19, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ok, new comic, new complication...
Spoiler: Freefall 3777The robots need Florence to transport them from the bomb factory to the station. So she's not going to be around to assist with any complications of the reactor restart.
Although, now that she has two jobs (Savage Chicken engineer, Station technician) I wonder if she has to choose where to be?I'm pretty much the opposite of concise. If I fail to get to the point, please ask me and I'm happy to (attempt to) clarify.
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2022-07-20, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Note that Florence isn't worried about the humans: She is worried that the stupid robots are going to fling themselves at the station using nuclear bombs.
I suspect that Florence could probably negotiate transport and send Sam to get the robots while she goes off and tries to help fix the power. I don't think she will because he would come up with all sorts of ways to add extra fees against the robots, but she could probably convince him to not bilk them for too much. Probably.
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2022-07-26, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, that's likely, but I'm still awaiting the scenario:
Florence: Ship, I just heard the cargo bay doors open, who authorized that.
That means its identification algorithms are accurate, and guaranteed not to make any errors.
Well also. Being a spaceship its bound to have all manner of sensors. And not rely on visible light.
Note that Florence isn't worried about the humans: She is worried that the stupid robots are going to fling themselves at the station using nuclear bombs.
I suspect that Florence could probably negotiate transport and send Sam to get the robots while she goes off and tries to help fix the power. I don't think she will because he would come up with all sorts of ways to add extra fees against the robots, but she could probably convince him to not bilk them for too much. Probably.
But there is emergency generators. And plenty of skilled technicians. Who by all accounts are better suited for this than a green candidate who dont know the hardware.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-07-26, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2022-07-26, 10:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Florence isn't 'green', though
She dont know where anything are. Let alone how to navigate the work area. And now the light is off.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2022-07-31, 09:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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My point was (albeit badly made) that Florence can see all those factors and realize that rushing in isn't going to solve anything; the robots cannot. If there was an air-leak on the station and somebody needed to rush around in a space suit to get all the stranded humans, Florence would brook no opposition to her doing it. If the reactor needed to be tweaked by hand she would probably bite a human to get the tools to go do it herself (although at that point she would be operating so far outside her safeguards that her creators would probably notice). But a nebulous "the lights are out, probably because the reactor experienced an emergency shut-down of some sort" situation doesn't trigger her "protect humans" training.
Ultimately, I think Florence is a much better made "AI" than the robots. If nothing else, she is more waterproof than most of them.
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2022-07-31, 10:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think this is due to Florence having much, much more experience of living alongside humans than robots. Most A.I. rarely get to interact with humans and spend most of their lives fullfilling a specific purpose while she was raised by a human family and had no purpose beyond "proving Bowman's Wolves are allright".
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2022-08-01, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yep.
"MUST BE BROUGHT UP TO CODE."
Now they find the places that robots can't fit because of design...May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2022-08-03, 12:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, wolves do make for better starting material than automated machinery, but some of it is just maturity. We have Florence, then mature factory-one robots like Sawtooth, then near-threshold robots like Tangent and the bomb factory, and lastly the three year olds.
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2022-08-04, 07:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-17, 06:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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"antsy" and "nuclear"!Forum Wisdom
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2022-08-17, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-23, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-23, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Food that talks isn't food.
On the other hand they used to have long pig flavored food on the menu, so..."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
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2022-08-24, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Because of course they do.
I get the idea -- a space station, if it has meat at all, is going to have it via some kind of cell-culture process or just use non-meat rather than having meat-producing animals leaving and being butchered on station. Planet Jean and the people eating insects indicate that Stanley wants this society not to be post-scarcity and need to consider these logistic issues as real. Once you do that, you can have the meat be any animal you can culture or flavor you can replicate. Still, really dude? Just a little more sophomoric than I was expecting.
Anyways... The plot thread of Sam being a delicious prey-species certainly has been part of his story arc since near the beginning. Mostly in terms of emus and small dogs, though. It seems a little odd that these post-humanists are having such an epiphany moment with the realization that 'hey, this biological sophont is made out of meat, huh?' Still, it is an interesting side thing for them to focus on and I like this group, so I'm interested in where they go with this.Last edited by Willie the Duck; 2022-08-24 at 09:48 AM.
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2022-08-24, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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They aren't eating meat, they're eating mushrooms*.
I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse.
*Mythical Meat flavoured Mycoprotein.
So many questions."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2022-08-24, 10:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Fungus, not necessarily a mushroom. Yeasts and molds are also fungi.
He's probably referring to a future strain of Fusarium venenatum. A current strain is now being produced commercially.
It makes sense if your space and power is limited. It's easier to make a single source of protein and flavor it, rather than have multiple cloning facilities for all the meat types.
And, as it's a simpler genetic structure, it'd be easier to engineer necessary nutrients into it. Various amino acids, enzyme production, etc.May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.
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2022-08-24, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Consider that a flavor designer trying to imagine mythical kraken is almost certainly going to think of the more real sorts of giant squid; the idea that sqid smell like squid amuses me. The "u" may not be silent, but it could be olfactory-neutral.
I've tried Quorn products a few times, they're pretty good.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2022-08-25, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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New comic
Yeah, they probably should discontinue that flavour.
Not because it would be awkward, because it would give Sam's people ideas."If it lives it can be killed.
If it is dead it can be eaten."
Ronkong Coma "the way of the bookhunter" III Catacombium
(Walter Moers "Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher")
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2022-08-26, 02:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Nettie keeps being the sane one that rein in the other two when they go too far.
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2022-08-26, 05:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-26, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-26, 05:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-28, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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They already discontinued "Long Pig", which is sometimes a euphemism for human meat.