Kill6BillionDemons II: The Successor's coming will be followed by 108 burning threads

[PraetorDragoon]

New Offering

HAIL THE CONQUEROR WORM

Why do I get the feeling that the others might want to call the Pact against Solomon?

And Gog-Agog doesn't look amused.

[lord_khaine]

Well of course they would all love nothing more than doing so.
SD tells them uncomfortable truths, and act like he is better than them (he is).

The problem is he tells uncomfortable truths, and they know it.
They do need everyone, and especially SD, if they want to have a chance of surviving when the Red God makes his move.

[Eldan]

The question, of course, is if they still need the pact if they ever happen to defeat the Red God for good.

[PraetorDragoon]

The question, of course, is if they still need the pact if they ever happen to defeat the Red God for good.

I think they will pick it up. The status quo suits them well.

Of course, the chances that the seven come out of the Third Conquest without problems is nil.

[mystic1110]

The Pact is already broken though. Incubus is working directly with the Red God.

[Eldan]

Yes, but I assume they don't know that.

[Onyavar]

The Pact is already broken though. Incubus is working directly with the Red God.

The pact allows working together, just not turning against the others. As long as the next war has not yet started, all conspiring is legit.

...
But you're actually right, they are all guilty of undermining their pact. Solomon for buying Zaid. Mammon for selling Zaid. Mottom for attacking Mammon's fortress and Gog-Agog's face. Jadis for deliberately not correcting their assumptions. Jagganoth and Incubus for conspiring against the others. Finally, Gog-Agog is up to something, too.


Solomon probably assumes Jagganoth is going to be the big threat soon, although the pact isn't any less threatening for the rest, either.

But really, this can swing any way now.
My favorite guess: Goggie destroying Mottom with a single shot, then the others turning against Goggie. In a brawl, Goggie can escape easily - and join forces with "so-cool"-Allison. Don't know if this fits with Incubussie's plans.

[Hamsandlich]

Technically, 001 undermined the pact in Mammon's stead by selling Zaid, Mammon was busy being a Drampa back then

[Olinser]

The pact allows working together, just not turning against the others. As long as the next war has not yet started, all conspiring is legit.

...
But you're actually right, they are all guilty of undermining their pact. Solomon for buying Zaid. Mammon for selling Zaid. Mottom for attacking Mammon's fortress and Gog-Agog's face. Jadis for deliberately not correcting their assumptions. Jagganoth and Incubus for conspiring against the others. Finally, Gog-Agog is up to something, too.


Solomon probably assumes Jagganoth is going to be the big threat soon, although the pact isn't any less threatening for the rest, either.

But really, this can swing any way now.
My favorite guess: Goggie destroying Mottom with a single shot, then the others turning against Goggie. In a brawl, Goggie can escape easily - and join forces with "so-cool"-Allison. Don't know if this fits with Incubussie's plans.

Yeah I don't believe Gog-Agog's act. Not for a second. A huge amount of it is an act to make the others estimate.... her? it? them? What's the proper way to refer to a teeming mass of worms? I'll go with 'it' for now.

Remember. Everybody in that room except Incubus and Mammon killed the previous bearers of their Key, conquered thousands of worlds, and has presumably survived a huge amount of attacks, battles and assassination attempts.

Not saying Gog-Agog isn't easily distracted with ADD, but a good portion of it is DEFINITELY an act, and a working one, as the others seem to regard Gog-Agog as a clown beneath their notice, while the author has explicitly said that even Jagganoth would have difficulty with Gog-Agog in combat and that it could be the strongest demiurge if it weren't for Gog's flights of fancy.

[PraetorDragoon]

Jadis for deliberately not correcting their assumptions.

I don't think Jadis is capable of correcting their assumptions. At most we have seen her whisper things, and most of her bigger prophecies were interpreted by her priests.

[lord_khaine]

Personally i have a sneaking suspicion that Gog-agog did not kill a bearer of a key.
It -ate- one after something else had killed it in a sufficiently cataclysmic fight that left no survivors.

And.. as they say.. you are what you eat..

[Aquillion]

I don't think Jadis is capable of correcting their assumptions. At most we have seen her whisper things, and most of her bigger prophecies were interpreted by her priests.

Possibly. Word of God is that Jadis wants to die, though, so I'm not sure she'd correct their assumptions even if she could.

[Hamsandlich]

New Offering

SWORD SAINT

[Hamsandlich]

Word of God is that Gog-Agog is the eldest of the Seven by a large margin. Who's to say she wasn't one of the OG Demiurges, who entered Throne without a Key and received one from Zoss (though this implies she wasn't always an iNsANe amalgam of worms).

[Eldan]

Still thinking Abaddon's going for the Lovecraft allusion on that one.

The nethermost caverns...are not for the fathoming of eyes that see; for their marvels are strange and terrific. Cursed the ground where dead thoughts live new and oddly bodied, and evil the mind that is held by no head. Wisely did Ibn Schacabao say, that happy is the tomb where no wizard hath lain, and happy the town at night whose wizards are all ashes. For it is of old rumour that the soul of the devil-bought hastes not from his charnel clay, but fats and instructs the very worm that gnaws; till out of corruption horrid life springs, and the dull scavengers of earth wax crafty to vex it and swell monstrous to plague it. Great holes secretly are digged where earth's pores ought to suffice, and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl.

[Hamsandlich]

New Offering

STRENGTH
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[Olinser]

Thin kid with the wild hair is definitely Kidcubus.

Makes sense, he was explicitly referred to as a swordmaster by Abbadon when talking about their relative strengths.

[Professor Gnoll]

Thin kid with the wild hair is definitely Kidcubus.

Makes sense, he was explicitly referred to as a swordmaster by Abbadon when talking about their relative strengths.

In fact, he's the very best practitioner of Sword Law in the universes (which of course makes him the worst swordsman ever to live).

[Olinser]

In fact, he's the very best practitioner of Sword Law in the universes (which of course makes him the worst swordsman ever to live).

Where was it ever stated he was the best?

Meti was explicitly the strongest, and Maya was her only pupil.

My understanding is that the other Demiurges look down on Incubus because he was NOT stronger than Maya, and only acquired her Key and throne when she abandoned them (for unknown reasons that we will hopefully learn in this flashback).

[Aquillion]

Where was it ever stated he was the best?

Meti was explicitly the strongest, and Maya was her only pupil.

My understanding is that the other Demiurges look down on Incubus because he was NOT stronger than Maya, and only acquired her Key and throne when she abandoned them (for unknown reasons that we will hopefully learn in this flashback).

The point is that mechanically mastering sword law doesn't make you a good swordsman. Incubus has (presumably) learned or stolen Meti's sword techniques, but completely ignored the philosophy and deeper understanding behind them, which in K6BD makes him a terrible swordsman because he doesn't actually understand the point of the exercise and isn't capable of reaching Royalty.

It's almost certain that the alt text on this page describes him.

[Professor Gnoll]

Where was it ever stated he was the best?

Meti was explicitly the strongest, and Maya was her only pupil.

My understanding is that the other Demiurges look down on Incubus because he was NOT stronger than Maya, and only acquired her Key and throne when she abandoned them (for unknown reasons that we will hopefully learn in this flashback).

I was extrapolating slightly- Abaddon says that "some would say" Incubus is the very best at Sword Law, and the alt text for a recent comic refers to Incubus as an "unparalleled master" of it (also mentioning that as he only knows how to kill and maim, he is an exceptionally poor swordsman).

So Incubus is quite possibly better at turning men into ghosts than Maya is. Of course, we just don't really know yet- though we may find out before this book ends. (As a side note, Meti isn't explicitly the strongest- Lord Intra seems to have had a similar grasp of the Principle Art, and is indeed the original, titular King of Swords.)

The point is that mechanically mastering sword law doesn't make you a good swordsman. Incubus has (presumably) learned or stolen Meti's sword techniques, but completely ignored the philosophy and deeper understanding behind them, which in K6BD makes him a terrible swordsman because he doesn't actually understand the point of the exercise and isn't capable of reaching Royalty.

It's almost certain that the alt text on this page describes him.

Pretty much this.

[Professor Gnoll]

New Offering
Praise the King of Swords, the unparalleled master of the Principle Art!

[Hamsandlich]

The sanctioned action is to cut

[Hamsandlich]

New Offering

There Maya, that wasn't so hard now was it?

[Onyavar]

Where was it ever stated he was the best?

Meti was explicitly the strongest, and Maya was her only pupil.

Quite possible. Incubus wasn't a pupil, he was already a student.

[mystic1110]

Were Meti’s eyes always hot pink‽

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Were Meti’s eyes always hot pink‽

It's debatable. But they were always reddish and small. We never saw them big, so maybe?

[mystic1110]

It's debatable. But they were always reddish and small. We never saw them big, so maybe?

The worry is - of course - if Kidcubbus could have influenced Meti in any way. Doubt it, but suspicious.

[Aquillion]

I seriously doubt kid Incubus could do anything at all to Meti.

Another thought: Given Incubus' power over dreams, it's possible that what we're seeing here isn't what actually happened.

[rooster707]

No comics this week while Abbadon prepares for the LANCER Kickstarter, which launches on the 8th.

I keep seeing the mech art on his Twitter and it looks incredible, but I haven’t looked into the lore or mechanics of the game at all... probably gonna back it anyway. I stopped doing Kickstarters a while ago, but Abbadon deserves all of my money.