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    Default Iron Chef Optimization Challenge: E6 Appetizer Edition (Round XIII)

    Welcome back to the Iron Chef Optimization Challenge E6 Appetizer Edition! We're getting a little weird with this one. Might want to read carefully.

    The form of this challenge is to take a particular kind of D&D 3.5 class (our "secret ingredient," or SI) and turn it into a functional E6 build, which must feature the SI as heavily as possible. (The only hard rule about this is that you must take at least two levels in the SI, though judges are encouraged to look favorably on builds that take as many levels as possible in said SI.) Your final build submission should consist of your 6 regular levels and your first 10 epic bonus feats, though providing a snapshot at earlier points through the progression is heartily encouraged. Entries are to be PM'd to the Chair (that would be me!), and they will be posted anonymously; our volunteer judges will then grade each build on a 1-5 point scale in four categories: Originality, Power, Elegance, and Use of the Secret Ingredient. The builds with the highest three scores will be awarded medals, with the Honorable Mention award going to the non-medaling build that the Chair likes best and/or that receives the most votes for HM in this thread. (HM may not always be awarded, particularly if the number of builds is very small.) And then we all have cake!*

    *Note: You must provide your own cake.

    This is basically like the regular Iron Chef, and let's be brutally honest with ourselves here: this isn't a gargantuan community, and we basically all know what we're talking about at this point. Make the builds, send 'em in, post some scores, and have fun. If you've got questions, lemme know. Still, let's lay out a few rules!
    • Cooking Time: Builds must be submitted via PM to the Chair by 4:59 PM GMT - 7 on Tuesday, Nov 13, 2018 (11:59 PM GMT on Tuesday, Nov 13. I think.). The reveal shall be on the first evening the Chair has free following the cooking deadline, which is hoped to be that evening or the immediately subsequent one. Judging is then expected (*cough*) to take no more than two weeks, so we'll put the judging deadline at approximately two weeks after that, with adjustments as necessary. (You can do the math yourselves; I don't want to put two dates here and confuse people.) Notice that this is slightly earlier in the day than previous deadlines; the goal is to have the deadline be around the time the Chair gets off of work on that particular day, thereby allowing him to post the builds without having to stay up super late or wait until the next day.
    • Kitchen: Let's break this one down a bit.

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      • ALLOWED: Almost all D&D 3.5 material published by WotC: Core, Completes, monster books, Races Of books, alternate power source books (Expanded Psionics Handbook, Magic of Incarnum, Tome of Battle, Tome of Magic, etc.), Spell Compendium, Book of Exalted Deeds, Book of Vile Darkness, Eberron material, Forgotten Realms material, and other WotC-published 3.5 material. (This list is NOT exhaustive and there are many other legal books that I did not mention by name!)
      • ALLOWED: Material from the 3.5 archives of the Wizards of the Coast website (including, but not limited to, the Mind's Eye articles). If you use it, link it.
      • ALLOWED: Official errata from WotC. If you're relying on this in a material fashion, it's a good idea to link it and to discuss it.
      • NOT ALLOWED: Unofficial errata, including "class fixes" (regardless of the source, including from the original author if not published in a WotC book) or fan-created content.
      • ALLOWED: Unupdated WotC-published 3.0 material (e.g., Sword and Fist, Masters of the Wild, etc.) except for 3.0 psionics. No 3.0 psionics allowed. If you are using 3.0 material, use the general-purpose skill updates (Wilderness Lore becomes Survival, Innuendo becomes Bluff, etc.) and the general-purpose rules updates (spells with a casting time of "1 action" become "1 standard action," etc.) when appropriate.
      • NOT ALLOWED: 3.0 material for which a direct 3.5 update exists. Use the updated material instead.
      • ALLOWED: Dragon Compendium and its errata.
      • NOT ALLOWED: Content from Dragon Magazine and/or Dungeon Magazine unless said content appears in an otherwise allowed source.
      • ALLOWED: Oriental Adventures, including the 3.5 update to Oriental Adventures from Dragon Magazine #318. This is a specific exception to the "no Dragon" rule!
      • NOT ALLOWED: Pathfinder content, regardless of whether it is "D&D 3.5 OGL" or not. If it didn't come from WotC, we don't want it.
      • ALLOWED: From Unearthed Arcana: racial paragon classes, alternate class features/variant classes, spelltouched feats, and variant races. (Traits and flaws are technically legal, but traits warrant a -0.5 point penalty in Elegance, and flaws warrant a -1 penalty in Elegance.)
      • NOT ALLOWED: Other Unearthed Arcana content, including (but not limited to) bloodlines, LA buyoff, fractional BAB/saves, alternate casting systems, alternate skill systems, item familiars, prestigious character classes, generic classes, gestalt, etc. When you're wondering if UA content is allowed, err on the side of caution and don't mess around with it.
      • NOT ALLOWED: Leadership, regardless of source. Game elements functionally equivalent to Leadership (including, but not limited to, Dragon Cohort, Undead Leadership, and Thrallherd) are similarly banned. (Familiars, Improved Familiar, animal companions, Wild Cohort, psicrystals, elemental envoys, and similar game elements are allowed, and they are not considered to be "Leadership." If the difference isn't obvious, feel free to contact the Chair with specific questions.)
      • NOT ALLOWED: Third-party content, homebrew, or other non-WotC content.
      • NOT ALLOWED: Epic feats from the Epic Level Handbook. Just because you're "epic" in E6 after 6th level doesn't mean that you're that kind of epic.
      • NOT ALLOWED: Any race or template with a level adjustment other than +0. (Or any other source of LA other than a race or template, if any such things exist.)
      • NOT ALLOWED: For our judges: penalizing solely based on legal sources used, regardless of whether those sources are plentiful, sparse, common, obscure, or something in between. If the material is legal, then it doesn't matter how many or how few books it came out of.
      • ALLOWED: Also for our judges: penalizing for using a source (other than material in Core; don't be vindictive about genuinely obvious stuff) that isn't listed in the build writeup. The chef may choose to present the sources in-line with the text, in a consolidated source list, or somewhere else, but if the source is listed (and is otherwise legal), it counts. If the source is not listed, you may choose to penalize for that.

      If you have questions about anything in this section (or hell, in this ruleset), feel free to ask the Chair.

    • Character Creation: 32 point buy is assumed. For the purposes of this contest, Level Adjustment greater than +0 is banned. (This may be revised at a later point, but I don't feel that the E6 LA rules are conducive to fun in the context of this contest.) No more than two entries per chef per contest, please; if you submit two builds and somehow are so overcome with inspiration for a third that you can't help yourself, PM me and tell me which two you care about the most.
    • Speculation: Please do not post any form of speculation before the reveal. Just don't do it, guys. It's not cool. This means NOT posting any of the following or anything substantially similar: what you think is going to be common, significant elements of your planned build or of other potential builds, or anything else that could directly influence someone else's build choices for good or for ill. (It's acceptable to ask for rules clarifications as appropriate, but try to avoid tipping your hand too much.) Speculation is bad because it can discourage people from posting builds and can also "taint the judging pool" when it comes to Originality, so please just try to be aware of how other people might react to your speculation.
    • E6: Here's how E6 works for the purposes of this contest. Build your character normally for the first six levels. After you reach level 6, you stop gaining levels and start gaining bonus feats every time you would gain 5,000 XP. Since we aren't actually tracking XP, you'll basically list your first ten epic bonus feats in the order that you take them, and we think of them as being kind of like levels. We will not use the LA-equals-reduced-point-buy rules, instead preferring to just ban races with LA, at least for now. We will not use the "capstone feats"; all feats that you take must be normal legal 3.5 feats, not homebrew E6 ones. You may not use the Epic feats from the Epic Level Handbook, though if for some reason there are non-Epic feats from the ELH that you qualify for, you may take those. (I don't think there are any, but I'm sure someone will prove me wrong.) It is up to the discretion of each judge whether this is a "hard E6" (magic above 3rd level spells is simply beyond mortal reach, items that have a listed CL above 6th are just plain not available, etc.) or a "soft E6" (if you can somehow get the magic on your character, it's yours, regardless of level), though I honestly don't expect it to come up. Don't go crazy with making assumptions about items and we probably won't have to find out.
    • Presentation: Please use the table found below in the spoiler. List your epic bonus feats (in clear order) after the table. If you find a clever way of formatting that that isn't annoying and that doesn't break anything, have fun; if it's portable, I may steal it for the next round. When sending your build or any disputes to the Chair, clearly include your build's name in the subject of the PM, and please present your build exactly as you want the Chair to copy and paste it into the thread.
      If you're using a picture, cite the source and follow any relevant citation rules. Because we have had issues with this in the past, when listing your skills, please make it very clear how many ranks you have at each level. There are multiple ways to do this and we do not wish to cramp anyone's individual style by dictating exactly how this must look, but make sure that somewhere in your entry there's an explanation of how many actual skill ranks you have. It's still fine to list total skill bonuses, if that's your style, but don't only list bonuses; make sure that there is a clear listing somewhere of your ranks alone.
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      Level Class Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Skills Feats Class Features
      1st New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
      2nd New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
      3rd New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
      4th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
      5th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
      6th New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
      Code for the table:
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      [table="class: head alt1 alt2"]
      [tr]
      [th][B]Level[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Class[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Base Attack Bonus[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Fort Save[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Ref Save[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Will Save[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Skills[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Feats[/B][/th]
      [th][B]Class Features[/B][/th]
      [/tr]
      [tr]
      [td]1st[/td]
      [td]New Class Level[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]Skills[/td]
      [td]Feats[/td]
      [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
      [/tr]
      [tr]
      [td]2nd[/td]
      [td]New Class Level[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]Skills[/td]
      [td]Feats[/td]
      [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
      [/tr]
      [tr]
      [td]3rd[/td]
      [td]New Class Level[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]Skills[/td]
      [td]Feats[/td]
      [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
      [/tr]
      [tr]
      [td]4th[/td]
      [td]New Class Level[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]Skills[/td]
      [td]Feats[/td]
      [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
      [/tr]
      [tr]
      [td]5th[/td]
      [td]New Class Level[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]Skills[/td]
      [td]Feats[/td]
      [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
      [/tr]
      [tr]
      [td]6th[/td]
      [td]New Class Level[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]+x[/td]
      [td]Skills[/td]
      [td]Feats[/td]
      [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
      [/tr][/table]

    • Contest houserules: Nearly the same as the main contest's rules here: all creatures are proficient with natural weapons they have or may acquire, bonus feats that are explicitly granted without meeting prereqs are usable even without those prereqs, and feats that affect which skills are class skills for you and/or how you spend your skill points (Able Learner, Martial Study, Truename Training, Apprentice, etc.) apply immediately at the level at which you take them (even though you normally spend skill points before taking a feat).
    • Judging guidelines: The minimum score in a category is 1, and the maximum is 5. Judges are expected to be fair, consistent, and open-minded, and they are expected to make a good-faith effort to engage with any reasonable disputes that arise, especially when RAW is in question. That said, contestants are asked to not dispute more than necessary; let's do everything in good faith and really only dispute when a judge is being inconsistent, being unfair, or is otherwise grossly misinterpreting a build.
      Judges may not penalize Originality solely because a build is a tribute or homage to an existing creative work (in or out of D&D canon; note that this is not the same thing as penalizing Originality for using well-known optimization tactics), nor may judges penalize based solely on sources used (whether those sources are plentiful, sparse, common, obscure, or something in between, you should judge the build elements and how they work together rather than what book or what books they came out of, as long as those books are legal for this contest and are cited in the entry).
      As with the main contest, we will follow the "One Mistake, One Penalty" guideline, and it is very important that the judges adhere to it. I'm going to directly copy and paste this from the main thread, and hopefully the original author won't mind too much:
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      Judges are only allowed to penalise once for a given mistake. If someone messes up their skills and doesn't qualify for a PrC, ding them as hard as you like. Once. In one category. You don't then get to declare that because they didn't qualify for that PrC, they don't get those levels, and thus don't qualify for anything else. If Ranger is a common ingredient, ding them for Originality. Once. Don't also take off points for Two-Weapon-Fighting being a common ingredient.

      Non-exhaustive list of examples:

      Skills
      Allowed:
      • Giving a penalty for miscalculating the number of skill points gained
      • Giving a penalty for not having enough ranks to meet a prerequisite
      • Increasing the harshness of a skill miscalculation penalty if it affects critical skills including prereqs


      Not allowed:
      • Giving separate penalties for miscalculating skill points and for non-qualification where the non-qualification is solely caused by the miscalculation

      Prereqs
      Allowed:
      • Giving a penalty for not meeting prereqs
      • Scaling the penalty depending on how important the item that the build failed to qualify for is
      • Giving minimum score in UotSI for not qualifying for the SI
      • Not giving credit for (note: not the same as penalising for) tactics using feats or classes other than the SI that were not qualified for (but see below)


      Not Allowed:
      • "Cascading" failures to qualify - declaring that because a build doesn't qualify for a feat, for example, it also doesn't qualify for anything using that feat as a prereq
      • Treating a build as having fewer levels than it does because of FtQ for classes

      Other general things that are no longer allowed:
      • Penalising because someone has chosen to build a tribute to an existing creative work
      • Deciding that a backstory has not met a fluff prerequisite well enough, or because its method of meeting it is "unrealistic". You may penalise if a fluff prereq is not addressed at all, but not for how well it is addressed.


      Note that these are protections, not licenses. Deliberately taking a feat that you know you don't qualify for hoping to just suck up the judging penalty for a feat that you couldn't normally take is not okay, and may lead to your build being disqualified.

    • Other bits and bobs: If there's something major and relevant I haven't mentioned, assume that the way I handle it will probably be the same as the main contest unless stated otherwise or unless doing so would be an obviously absurd result. If you've got questions, I'll give you answers.



    This round's secret ingredient: PRESTIGE CLASSES!
    Allez Optimizer!

    . . . Wait, huh?

    This round's ingredient is one or more prestige classes. Any one or more prestige classes, as long as you qualify for them legally. Your build must contain a minimum of two levels (total) in one or more prestige classes. Whatever PrC or PrCs you include in your build are considered to be your "secret ingredient," and UoSI should be judged according to how well you use the PrC or PrCs you pick. So you've got a pretty wide-open field to choose from, but since you're not likely to be able to get super deep into them, you'll have to choose well in order to get high marks in UoSI.

    Note: racial paragon classes are not prestige classes. We already did that joke. And ended up with a million half-orcs for some reason.

    You're allowed to use racial paragon classes (following all the qualification rules normally) if that helps for some reason, but they don't count towards your UoSI. Have fun, everyone!



    The Builds:

    Entry Alignment/Race Stub Judge: daremetoidareyo Total
    Joka Tuo Juustoa, by thorr-kan (link) NE Human Enchanter 1/Anima Mage 1/Master Specialist 1/Anima Mage +1/Mindbender 1/Mage of the Arcane Order 1 14 8th
    Khaupper Heyde, by Macabaret (link) NG Stonehunter Gnome Incarnate 2/Stoneblessed 3/Ironsoul Forgemaster 1 17 3rd
    Krellic von'Vulfhowzen, by jdizzlean (link) NE Human Cleric 2/Conjurer 1/Master of Shrouds 2/Alienist 1 16 5th
    Speglio Sixbreaker, by Darrin (link) CN Lesser Gray Dwarf Transmuter 3/Squire of Legend 3 19.25 1st
    Tiana, by Randuir (link) LG Half-Elf Warblade 3/Duskblade 1/Storm Sentry 2 17.5 2nd
    Yuri, by Inza (link) ?E Lesser Fire Genasi Binder 1/Wizard 1/Mindbender 4 16.5 4th
    'arry, by thorr-kan (link) LN Halruuan Human Commoner 1/Survivor 5 13 10th, Honorable Mention
    Blip, by FauxKnee (link) LE Necropolitan Unseelie Fey Human Commoner 1/Survivor 5 15 6th
    Girl, by lysyly (link) ?? Jermlaine Commoner 1/Survivor 5 14 8th
    Skip, by Randuir (link) TN Dwarf Commoner 1/Survivor 5 15 6th

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    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    Default Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge: E6 Appetizer Edition (Round XIII)

    Since the majority of PrCs are something you enter after about five levels of buildup, it's a little challenging to get more than about one level deep into a PrC in E6. Since you're required to take at least two levels in a PrC (or at least one level in two or more PrCs), you'll have to find something that you can sneak into a little bit earlier than a "standard" PrC tends to allow. (This does not mean that you're necessarily intended to use "early entry" tricks, though if you're willing to take your metaphorical life in your hands and face the wrath of the judges, that's up to you.)

    The other tricky part, of course, is really centering your build around the features of something that you're only going to get a small number of levels into before you run out of HD.

    I think that this should be a fairly creativity-inspiring round. I hope it's not too broad, but honestly, I think you'll find that there's more restrictions here than meet the eye. (Probably not so many as to prevent it from being fun, though. I think.)

    I look forward to your entries! And remember, if you don't have any ideas, we always need judges!
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    Interesting. I've got several half-formed ideas already.
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    This one intrigues me. I'll see if I can whip something up...

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    wow, i will have to give this some thought.

    thanks for the long build time, my brain is currently fried from putting the finishing touches on my game-warpers entry, which will be devilishly fun. I could use a week off to recharge :)
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    I've had two thoughts, and stuck a fork in both of them ;)
    One lacked any originality at all in the long run and the other lack ANY power at all.
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    OMG, it's like it's raining Krugerrands from heaven...I love this ingredient!

    I have a build that allows 5 levels of 4 PrCs, but it requires Wisconsin's annual cheese output and DM fiat for a alternate class feature. So that's off the table.

    Let's see, let's see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lylsyly View Post
    I've had two thoughts, and stuck a fork in both of them ;)
    One lacked any originality at all in the long run and the other lack ANY power at all.
    If one of those is what I think it is, I do kind of hope that we get it. But Iíll say no more.
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    *Sigh* I hate it when one of my dumb ideas actually works. Now I have to build it.

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    Default Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge: E6 Appetizer Edition (Round XIII)

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin View Post
    *Sigh* I hate it when one of my dumb ideas actually works. Now I have to build it.
    Man, I know that feel. Itís like you start looking for a reason why it doesnít work almost as an excuse to not do it, but then you realize that it actually ends up more robust than it has any right to. Even though the idea is still goofy as hell and demands an over-the-top writeup to go with it.

    Of course, that kind of super organic and spontaneous design process (in this case, vetting/improving the build for all the wrong reasons) is one reason why, in my opinion, optimizing in 3.5 is still fun after all these years.

    Iím expecting some glorious entries this round. Donít let me down, folks!
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    my first inspiration and something i've been wanting to do for awhile, doesn't work for this particular round, but i also found something "better" while figuring that out :)
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    I have been lurking on GiantITP for probably five years on and off, but this round of Iron Chef gave me such an awful idea I had to register and participate. Based on lysyly's comments, our thoughts may have run in the same direction, though I hope my build ends up surprising a few people at least.

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    Welcome, welcome, welcome! I canít wait to see what you come up with.

    My absolute best advice is not to talk yourself out of anything. Just throw it out there and watch what happens. (Even in a worst-case scenario, youíll successfully find a way that it doesnít work, right?)
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    I have been lurking on GiantITP for probably five years on and off, but this round of Iron Chef gave me such an awful idea I had to register and participate. Based on lysyly's comments, our thoughts may have run in the same direction, though I hope my build ends up surprising a few people at least.
    Zaq's right; by all means, bring your fun to the party!

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    Zaq's right; by all means, bring your fun to the party!
    There's a party?!? Is that where we bring our own cake?

    Quote Originally Posted by FauxKnee
    I have been lurking on GiantITP for probably five years on and off, but this round of Iron Chef gave me such an awful idea I had to register and participate. Based on lysyly's comments, our thoughts may have run in the same direction, though I hope my build ends up surprising a few people at least.
    And, yes... Welcome to the party!! (You get cake here, if you supply it.)

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    I'll sign up to judge

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    Got one entry in, and we've got about a week to go. Thought I'd just give the thread a quick nudge up to the top for visibility. Keep the entries coming, everyone!

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    Awesome. This should be fun!
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    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    Come join the Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground E6 Appetizer Edition! We're currently judging for round 24. Everyone is welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macabaret View Post
    There's a party?!? Is that where we bring our own cake?



    And, yes... Welcome to the party!! (You get cake here, if you supply it.)
    Full Disclosure: You have to bring your own party, too.

    Hammering away at Concept A.

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    Build Submitted and thread bumped
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    Inspiration finally struck, so I'll make it before the deadline.
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    Yeah, going to be honest, my time is really divided at the moment, so I won't be submitting a build.

    Also, not finding a way to pull off my first idea the way I had hoped...

    Looking forward to the reveal.

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    My build has been submitted. Thank you everyone for the warm welcome!

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    I donít think you folks are prepared for the reveal. This is going to be a very, very amusing round. I love every entry Iíve been given so far, and I really want to see what else everyone can come up with.

    Thereís still plenty of time to get in an entry! Slightly more than 72 hours remain! Keep at it, chefs!
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    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    Come join the Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground E6 Appetizer Edition! We're currently judging for round 24. Everyone is welcome!

    My compiled Iron Chef stuff!

    Queer pride isn't limited to one month!

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    Concept A submitted.

    I wonder if I can beat the cheese build into something usable.

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    My serious and not so serious entries have been submitted. Also, Zaq, your inbox is full :P
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    Inbox is clean now!
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    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    Come join the Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground E6 Appetizer Edition! We're currently judging for round 24. Everyone is welcome!

    My compiled Iron Chef stuff!

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    Inbox is clean now!
    That...bodes...something.

    I'm not sure what. :)

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    Iíve been given a request for a 24 hour extension. Weíve got a solid round lined up already, but Iíll update the OP with a brief extension. I think itíll be worth it to see all the crazy variety this round can offer. Keep the entries coming!
    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    Come join the Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground E6 Appetizer Edition! We're currently judging for round 24. Everyone is welcome!

    My compiled Iron Chef stuff!

    Queer pride isn't limited to one month!

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    It sure should be interesting. I can't wait ;D
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    Itís late and Iím way more exhausted than I expected to be. Youíve all got an unofficial extension until I get off work tomorrow.
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    In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers

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    Gentlefolk, learn from Zaq's example, and his suffering. Remember, seven out of eleven players who use truenamer lose their ability to taste ice cream.
    Come join the Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground E6 Appetizer Edition! We're currently judging for round 24. Everyone is welcome!

    My compiled Iron Chef stuff!

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