Rise of the Runelords OOC

[Ghostfoot]

I'm at 17/32 HPs, so I could use a fair amount of healing but doesn't need to be right away.

You should grab the full 10hp that Lizuga has on offer

[Spore]

You should grab the full 10hp that Lizuga has on offer

Yea, we kinda need our magus on the frontline right now.

[CasualViking]

So that's 10 HP now, and there's another 4 in it for you if you hit an enemy ;-).

[u-b]

I read this as "The inquisitor’s weapons count as magic ONLY for the purposes of bypassing damage reduction BUT ARE NOT ACTUALLY MAGIC"

So if the shadows had DR/ magic I could hit them just fine. But incorporeal is different I think.

This. Won't work vs shadows.

[Ghostfoot]

@u-b: I think Adalbert's in the thick of it all too. Just behind Lebwen at M19. Not that it changes anything that's happened.

[u-b]

Oh, right, thank you, I missed that part.

[CasualViking]

Lebwen heals 3 points of Str damage.

I thought for a moment that Justin had taken 12 Str damage. And if he did, he wouldn't need to recalculate carrying capacity...

[Spore]

I think I moved Adalbert for the turn already? If this is a new turn, Adalbert looks for the magic wand and tries to figure out how to use it, points it at the shadows.

[u-b]

Yes, new turn. Which wand Adalbert's trying to use? Shocking grasp? I don't see any wand explicitly mentioned on your sheet, so just making sure. UMDing a wand would be fine.

[u-b]

I see nonmagic does work.

Did I write anything to that effect? Holy water does work, it is a special case.

[Ghostfoot]

That triage ability is awesome

[Erloas]

I'm at 7 strength, and over heavy load but not 2x over it. I'll be at medium load if I can drop the backpack easily. I'm pretty sure there is nothing special about dropping a backpack. (masterwork but nothing like harnesses)
...I was trying to figure out why Mythweaver had my load a lot higher than it should have been, it was double counting all my equipped items because I listed the weight in the top section and the inventory part, so I removed the weight listing from the inventory section. 40 lbs worth of armor/weapon/items on belt.

I was going to take the shocking grasp wand, but didn't actually write it down and don't think I explicitly got it from Adalbert at any point.

[Spore]

The shocking grasp wand is yours. I was of the assumption we have another one from Iris' loot or Nualia's corpse. Just as an aside: We should probably not skimp out on expenses spell- and moneywise on that encounter. Shadows are pretty nasty on low levels (even on high levels, but usually magic weapons solve that problem pretty quickly at that point).

So PLEASE do not risk your characters for a measly charge of a wand or a spell slot.

[Erloas]

The elemental touch is one of my new 2nd level spells, so I've went pretty much as big as I can. Although the shocking grasp does more damage, it's only one hit, this lasts several rounds.

[u-b]

free action - drop backpack

I'm not 100% sure if Elemental Touch gives the free attack or not, I think it should but I'm still a little unclear on parts of spellstrike

Without digging deeper, I think dropping a backpack is at least move action that requires at least one hand to be free. Again, without digging deeper, I'd say elemental touch gives an extra attack, but not as spellstrike - you just get an off-hand touch attack. Your choice of doing that 1 point of fire damage or dropping the backpack.

[CasualViking]

This fight is a TPK waiting to happen. Hold NOTHING back.

[u-b]

Thinking a bit more about it, elemental touch applies to either a free hand or a weapon, but not both (I am not sure if it was intended to work through the weapon, but I'll allow it). As for the second attack, I think you are not considered holding the charge, so you can use spellstrike normally, with a different spell (provided you cast it and don't drop the bakcpack). If you don't drop the backpack, you are effectively immobile, but might be worth it anyway.

[DrK]

This fight is a TPK waiting to happen. Hold NOTHING back.

I have nothing to hold back as I can do nothing to these shadows aside from assisting the likes of Lizuga and Lebwen

[Erloas]

I would only have one hand occupied, because I've only got the longsword in hand, and I cast the spell last turn.

I hadn't looked at the actual range of Elemental Touch, just saw "melee touch attack" and figured that was right. Since it doesn't work I'll see about switching it out after this combat, I would have checked with you earlier but hadn't looked that closely at my spell choices until it recently.

Considering how often I miss, maybe Umbral Weapon is a good choice...

[Ghostfoot]

I have nothing to hold back as I can do nothing to these shadows aside from assisting the likes of Lizuga and Lebwen

I could give you the 3x holy water to attack with (ranged touch, so Justin will be sweet with it), and then still either buff (Bless etc) or use the wand of CLW to attack.

It'll eat a few actions, but it would get Justin in the fight (Iris: 5ft step, move to remove/ unbuckle bandolier, free to drop; Justin: move to pick up bandolier, move to retrieve/draw holy water)

Otherwise as you say it's aiding and soaking attacks for you (which it looks like you'd be quite good at).

[DrK]

I could give you the 3x holy water to attack with (ranged touch, so Justin will be sweet with it), and then still either buff (Bless etc) or use the wand of CLW to attack.

It'll eat a few actions, but it would get Justin in the fight (Iris: 5ft step, move to remove/ unbuckle bandolier, free to drop; Justin: move to pick up bandolier, move to retrieve/draw holy water)

Otherwise as you say it's aiding and soaking attacks for you (which it looks like you'd be quite good at).

I think I'm better at aiding and soaking currently. If Lizuga or Lebwen go down I can also grab up their weapons. I'll lose the finesse bt can still use the maneuvres wit hthe magic weapons to help with the damage

[Ghostfoot]

I think I'm better at aiding and soaking currently. If Lizuga or Lebwen go down I can also grab up their weapons. I'll lose the finesse bt can still use the maneuvres wit hthe magic weapons to help with the damage

Sounds good. Fortune favours the bold, right?

[CasualViking]

Can Justin use some of his Warlord.....Gambits?... to provide bonuses?

[DrK]

Can Justin use some of his Warlord.....Gambits?... to provide bonuses?

Next turn yes. That and the assists

[Spore]

I believe Lizuga rolled a crit.

[u-b]

Yep. But that does not do any good besides hitting:

An incorporeal creature is immune to critical hits and precision-based damage (such as sneak attack damage) unless the attacks are made using a weapon with the ghost touch special weapon quality.

[DrK]

Sad times! This as written is a pretty tough encounter.

[u-b]

assuming elemental touch does anything in this case, not working for the extra attack

Elemental touch works for extra damage only, but it does not prevent you from using spell combat with any other appropriate spell, so if you want that, you can do that (cast defensively and get an extra attack against the other shadow - this one had enough).

[Erloas]

cast defensively
(1d20+16)[19](+4 combat casting, +4 caster level, +4 int modifier) vs DC17 (15+ 2x1 spell level)

"free" attack from spellstrike, assuming the defensive casting passes
(1d20+8)[11]3BAB, -1 str, +2 naturalist, +1 weapon, +1 AP enhancement, +2 flank, +2 assist, -2 spell combat(I think that's everything)
(1d8+1)[7]-1str, +1 weapon, +1AP enhancement
(1d6)[5] elemental touch
(4d6)[18] shocking grasp

[CasualViking]

A Magus using spell combat can cast the spell before or after his regular attacks. Most of the time, and certainly in this case, it is best to cast then attack. It's not very intuitive.