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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
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    Default Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Due to an unfortunate incident with a clan of giants, our party's found itself without a rogue. (Apparently a potion of gaseous form doesn't do much to protect you against angry giants with magic weapons.) This means that there's no-one in our party with the trapfinding skill, and no-one particularly wants to play one. This means the only member of the party with a half-decent Search skill is the wizard - me.

    I can get up to a +11 to Search easily enough, which means I can find DC 20 traps just by taking 10. However, this won't let me find traps with a Search DC of 20 or higher. What I really need is a way to gain the trapfinding ability, preferably with a Search boost as well. What would be the most cost-efficient way to do it?

    My character's an enchanter 7/loremaster 4. My resources are a Use Magic Device skill of +22 or so, the Scribe Scroll, Craft Wand, and Craft Wondrous Item feats, any spell or item from the PHB, PHB II, Spell Compendium, and Magic Item Compendium (possibly other books too), and a moderate supply of money.

    At the moment all I can think of is crafting a wand of find traps, but that might become expensive fast - 50 charges don't go that far if you have to search every door and piece of furniture in the dungeon, and it's 4,500 gold. Any ideas?

    - Saph
    I'm the author of the Alex Verus series of urban fantasy novels. Fated is the first, and Book #10 in the series, Fallen, is out as of September 2019. For updates, check my blog!

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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Get a fighter type to take a level of scout.
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    Level Dipping into scout, rogue, or ninja for anyone interested in becoming the new trapfinder.
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    Bugbear in the Playground
     
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    Then you need some rats to disable/set off the traps.
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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    The big list of stuff is your friend:

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    Trapfinding
    Barbarian 3, class variant, Dungeonscape, replaces Trap Sense, see text
    Rogue 1
    Ranger 1, class variant, Dungeonscape, replaces Track
    Beguiler 1, Player's Handbook 2
    Ninja 1, Complete Adventurer
    Scout 1, Complete Adventurer
    Spellthief 1, Complete Adventurer
    Nightsong Infiltrator 1, ecl 8, Complete Adventurer
    Geometer 3, ecl 9, Complete Arcane, Traps based on writing only
    Temple Raider of Olidammara 1, ecl 6, Complete Divine
    Stoneblessed(Dwarf) 3, ecl 5, Races of Stone, stone traps only
    Stonedeath Assassin 1, ecl 6, Races of Stone
    Artificer 1, Eberron Campaign Setting, disable traps
    Silverkey 1, ecl 4, Eberron: Dragonmarked, called "wardsense", works at range, see text
    Factotum 1, Dungeonscape
    Disciple of Dispater 2, ecl 8, Book of Vile Darkness, metal only
    Kobold domain, Races of the Dragon, web enhancement
    Theft Gloves, soulmeld, Magic of Incarnum
    Hoardstealer 1, ecl 6, Draconomicon

    special mention
    Planar Touchstone (Catalogues of Enlightenment), feat, Planar Handbook, gain the ability of a chosen doman (pick Kobold, see above)
    Trap Sensitivity, feat, Dungeonscape, do not have to search for traps actively, see text
    If any party memebers can make use of any of these without ruining their characters you should encourage it.


    The Wand is probably a good choice, since it doesn't need any multiclassing/feat wasting. Expensive, but workable.

    I also like the idea of taking a Spellthief level and the Master Spellthief feat, but that could hurt your build fairly easily.
    Last edited by Dr. Weasel; 2007-09-23 at 01:11 PM.

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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Quote Originally Posted by PlatinumJester View Post
    Get a fighter type to take a level of scout.
    Not going to happen, for various reasons. Hence why I was asking for ways for me to gain trapfinding.

    The list of stuff is nice, but nearly all of them are class features. What would be ideal is a magic item or spell. So far I can't find anything except for find traps.

    - Saph
    I'm the author of the Alex Verus series of urban fantasy novels. Fated is the first, and Book #10 in the series, Fallen, is out as of September 2019. For updates, check my blog!

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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Our DM let the other characters gain the trapfinding ability by watching us ("us" is me and the other rogue). I think that's not quite fair, because it takes a lot of balancing away and is against any rule anyway (especially considering, that one of those "illegal" trapfinders is 2 levels ahead of the party anyway), i think he should at least have made it a feat for them. My rogue also didnt learn spellcasting from watching the wizard... I think i need to talk to my DM

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    Or run through everything really fast and hope for he best.
    Own it, pwn it, nuke it, sheep it, eat it, quick re -right it, Joe it, turn it, turnip, pimp it, gimp it, dot it, rock it, spec re - spec it...

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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    At the moment all I can think of is crafting a wand of find traps, but that might become expensive fast - 50 charges don't go that far if you have to search every door and piece of furniture in the dungeon, and it's 4,500 gold. Any ideas?
    I would see if your DM would let you create a ring of Trap Finding. I would go off of the Ring of Invisibility's cost because they are the same spell level. I would change it from:
    Ring of Invisibility
    By activating this simple silver ring, the wearer can benefit from invisibility, as the spell.

    Faint illusion; CL 3rd; Forge Ring, invisibility; Price 20,000 gp
    To:
    Ring of Trap Finding
    By activating this simple black iron ring, the wearer can benefit from Find Traps, as the spell.

    Faint Divination; CL 3rd; Forge Ring, find traps; Price 20,000 gp


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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saph View Post
    The list of stuff is nice, but nearly all of them are class features. What would be ideal is a magic item or spell. So far I can't find anything except for find traps.

    - Saph
    Theft Gloves, soulmeld, Magic of Incarnum
    Someone fail their search check?

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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: Ways to gain trapfinding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tor the Fallen View Post
    Someone fail their search check?
    Smart alec. :P I don't have MoI, so I don't know if Theft Gloves are an item, a class feature (soulmeld), or a combination of both. No-one in the group has the book, anyway, so it's probably a moot point.

    - Saph
    I'm the author of the Alex Verus series of urban fantasy novels. Fated is the first, and Book #10 in the series, Fallen, is out as of September 2019. For updates, check my blog!

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    Heal yourself * Hurt yourself * Judge yourself

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