DragonBallITP OOC VI: The Asylum for Omnipotent Nutcases

[Lord Raziere]

Yeah, skip the racing segment, get to actual fights?

[igordragonian]

Roger that.

By the way, characters you want to them to face the Cross Clan/Babidi and co better be elimated at the first rounds.

Also, if you two can list the characters that pass the race, it would help me tremendously to make it cohrent-
but in princple first round will be pair Vs Pair
then round 2 would be fusion (aided if needed)
and the final battle will have some zenny battleground conditon of sort.

[igordragonian]

Roger that.

By the way, characters you want to them to face the Cross Clan/Babidi and co better be elimated at the first rounds.

Also, if you two can list the characters that pass the race, it would help me tremendously to make it cohrent-
but in princple first round will be pair Vs Pair
then round 2 would be fusion (aided if needed)
and the final battle will have some zenny battleground conditon of sort.

Please? I want to move it along.

[Lord Raziere]

Okay, the cross clan/babidi...you mean the ones to go fight Buu? Then probably Pinappla and Masala shouldn't make it past this round, while Jade and Beryl make it to fight the Trombonists?

Sorry, things have been busy with me reading the Sidereal kickstarter and playing Pokemon Violet and thanksgiving, so don't feel bad.

[Rater202]

I'm honestly not sure if 10 and Rhye should pass or not.

[igordragonian]

I mostly meant for the tournament- so I can make who against who thing


And.. well. Your characters, up to you

[Rater202]

Okay, thinking it over... Ten and rhyse should probably continue into the tournament since I wasn't really... Involved in planning the other bit of the saga and I'm not sure I' know what's going on.

[igordragonian]

Basicly fighting Evil Cult and their allies attacking all over the universe?


For tournament.. I could really use the names- there are so many characters it"s a bit hard to follow

[Rater202]

The only characters I have right now are Rhye and Ten.

[Lord Raziere]

For tournament.. I could really use the names- there are so many characters it"s a bit hard to follow

Ugh, this was been so slow going I don't even care to look them up.

Just- Masala and Pinappla out, Jade and Beryl and Carmita in, I don't care about anything else.

[Lord Raziere]

As for this......hm.

I may just have to interrupt with tournament with Majin Playtime Saga entirely. I wish I had thought these through better, but I guess I'll have to improvise.

[Rater202]

So apparently some people are speculating that the next episode of the Dragon Ball Heroes anime/update to the game is going to show either a fusion between Xeno Goku and Super Goku, some sort of Ultra Instinct/Super Saiyan 4 mix, or both.

I'm not sure what the evidence for this theory is, or what the implications would be for us if true.

[Lord Raziere]

Super Saiyan 4 Ultra Instinct Goku: Now your hairy monkey is P U R E W H I T E thus fulfilling every DBZ fan fic dreams and putting them one step closer to the true goal: saiyans becoming a pure ball of fluff thats on fire.

I've been watching some Dragonball What ifs and not just from Masako, a what if were Caulifla was Goku's sister was quite good and unique.

gonna get quicksheets done for majins soon(TM).

[Lord Raziere]

Agh, they're still not done, where does the time go?

Uh.

should I introduce the rest of the Majins at once or be more gradual? I'm not sure.

[Rater202]

What do you think would make for a better story?

[Rater202]

Just gonna leave this here.

[Rater202]

Mostly posting to keep the thread, but apparently, the latestXenoverse 2 DLC lets a cac of any race get Gohan's Bast form, implying that its just an evolution of the potential unlocked state.

[Rater202]

So I finally managed to find someone who knew what was going on with Note and Beat getting the Super Saiyan 4 Forms in Heroes...

Apparently, once you have Ultimate Class Up Omen you can use a Dragon Ball wish to get Super Saiyan Form and then when in Ultimate Class Up Omen you can use Super Saiyan 4 instead of Ultra Instinct Omen for the Saiyan Heros only, which has trade-offs. When you reach the level cap and then fill your XP Bar again its automatically replaced with Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker...

...Honestly, this tells me that there's not gonna be a Perfected Ultimate CLass up with the Avatars getting Perfected Ultra Instinct. Wouldn't put an alternative route to power than the class-up system in if they were... Unless the Saiyan Heroes are getting this instead of a next level, or this is just some kind of preview?

Also, there's now a standardized variant of the Trancendant Demon God form which makes me think... Maybe there's gonna be something like this for the Other Avtars as well?

[Rater202]

So the Dragon Ball Super Manga is doing a sort of prequel arc to the plot of Superhero.

Apparently, Goten nd Trunks have adopted the Saiyaman mantle and there are now alpha and beta series androids predating the gammas.

[Rater202]

I've seen an interesting theory making the rounds

In Super Hero, Gohan discovered a species of ant that turns golden when fighting and draws a direct comparison between them and Super Saiyans.

Frienza's first super form is golden.

Organe Piccoo is argubaly... I mean, mix Green and Gol and you get something vaguely orange for some reason, depending on if you're talking light or pigment.

The theory is that every species has a "golden super mode" that can be achieved under the right circumstances.

[Lord Raziere]

Super mode for everything I can get behind, but why gold, get creative with it. maybe I'll just start putting devil triggers, infernal devil bodies, resureccions and lunar war forms into things, and so on and so forth I don't care. or maybe Jade should just start using Referential Cosplay Style to like reference things from various words rather than specific characters so that she can customize the powers to her own thing....

[Rater202]

For the record, if Ten ever needs a Super Mode I'll probably just go with a unique ssj variation because I'm too lazy to come up with anything else.

[Rater202]

So Orange Piccolo might be a God-Form.

In the Super manga, Goten and Trunks note that they can't sense Piccolo's ki anymore when he's in that form.

[Rater202]

So apparently there's supposed to be some big Dragon Ball News next month.

People are expecting either the return of the Super Anime or else the announcement of another movie.

A lot of people are hoping for a Jenemba rehash the way that Broly rehashed the first two Broly movies and Super Hero rehashed Biobroly with elements of Super Android 13 and a pinch of Wrath of the Dragon.

[Rater202]

So apparently they're doing a new anime that involves members of the cast being turned into children? Just sort of rehashing the conceit of GT I guess.

[Lord Raziere]

It won't last.

its a gimmick idea, and will crash and burn. at this point, Dragon Ball as a franchise will either start making more parallel universe timelines for more fights without escalating the power levels beyond any sane comprehension, or do actual continuity resets. they are nearing the point where that is their options, and this is showing that because the only way they can think of to create tension is to make the protagonists weaker in some manner, they're just doing it badly by extending the same continuity forever. the franchise hasn't been about OG Dragon Ball level stuff for decades, and GT didn't exactly win any favors using the de-aging trope. its either that or finally just leave Dragon Ball alone but everyone knows thats never happening. I'd honestly recommend they try do something new, make new characters, explore things that aren't saiyans, but that won't happen, even though we've basically done everything you possibly could do with the Z-fighters. well aside from things involving humans winning but.....thats kind of why you'd want a continuity reset or something anyways so that you can focus on a timeline where they can be more important.

like come on, we know despite how much the time kai and the super gods are like "time travel is bad" blah blah blah, that the rules of the multiverse are made up and basically don't matter as long as you can make a story out of it, so its either reset, parallel universes or we just start going full infinite multiverse through trunks timeline stuff while the twelve universe thing is just ignored or swept aside as this local whatever, and Goku's power level just becomes this vague question mark that like marvel or DC characters, can theoretically be super high and probably one day equal Superman's for real, or so pathetic that it equals Supermans for real in another way, depending on who's writing him. because we are at the point where extending the same story forever just doesn't make sense anymore, in my opinion.

[Rater202]

So an incoming update to Dragon Heroes is adding another "class up" to allow the Avatar characters to use Perfected Ultra Instinct.

As far as Heroes can be taken as "canonical," it seems to confirm that your hair changing color when using UI is a Saiyan trait and, straingely enough, half of the Saiyan avatars seem to have Super Saiyan hair. The other Avatars continue to seemingly hve their existing transfomrations on underneath UI so... Yeah. In so far as Heroes is concerned, UI transformations seem to be slightly different for each race and incorporate whatever other transformations you have access to, within reason.

...Also strange, it's kind of hard to tell since the only images I can find are magazine scans instead of official art, but it kind of looks like the Android Berserker turned green. Kind of looks like an upgraded and streamlined Cell 2.0.